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JFK · 02-11-2006, 03:54 PM

fitty...................... dirty little secrets

TreasureBucks · 02-11-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Another --- creating a message board or community where they encourage users to post stolen content, but only with watermarks removed. Or encourage users to post whole SITE RIPS!

well, thats not really an affiliate then is it???

TreasureBucks · 02-11-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

How about affiliates that run large multi-page link lists, then publish their ratios as if every single sponsor was given the same quality traffic as the first 10 on the first page of the list?

thats a good point there.

TreasureBucks · 02-11-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

How about PPS affiliates that give instructions to their surfers how to cancel trials?

might want to work that one into the terms and conditions, becuase thats low.

Scotty.T · 02-11-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

one question that comes to mind, you posted like 6 months ago that LightspeedCash is "from now on - invite only", now I took a look and it seems like it isnt like that anymore, which would suggest that you realized, affiliates are still a good thing to have

In fairness he also said he would review it at a later date (beginning of October I think). He did review it, opened it again and posted it, citing the freshness etc that new affiliates can bring to a program etc.

TreasureBucks · 02-11-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dugmor

How about the affiliates that show up at your party ... drink all your booze... fu*k all you paid prostitutes.... and never plan on sending even one click !

Now thats enough to get an affiiliate account yanked right there!!!

TreasureBucks · 02-11-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL

The adult industry has always been a case of everyone trying anything they can to make an extra buck out of it, so at the end of the day, hopefully, the I'm fucking you while you're fucking me, balances out.

Im not down with fucking people over..... are you saying i need to start, to balance it all out??

JFK · 02-11-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

That's what happens to cocky, dick waving program owners.

IDIOT

You ever been off the rock??

Rolo · 02-11-2006, 04:57 PM

I´m shocked that not a single affiliate have stepped forward to tell that he/she "does none of the things, which have been mentioned so far" like some sponsors did in the other thread ;-)))

sandman! · 02-11-2006, 05:01 PM

i try to send traffic to everyone who has got me drunk at a convention

XMaster · 02-11-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolo

I´m shocked that not a single affiliate have stepped forward to tell that he/she "does none of the things, which have been mentioned so far" like some sponsors did in the other thread ;-)))

Good point...and if they do now, i will sounds too fucking late

aico · 02-11-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolo

I´m shocked that not a single affiliate have stepped forward to tell that he/she "does none of the things, which have been mentioned so far" like some sponsors did in the other thread ;-)))

Probably most of them on here didn't even know that these ideas existed...

you-hypocrite · 02-11-2006, 05:21 PM

What about sponsors that allow some affiliates to do dirty little tricks that affect other affilates but the sponsor allows it because the affiliate doing the dirty little tricks makes the sponsor more money than the affilate that is trying to make an honest living? And then the sponsor has the cheek to post on a webmaster board talking about dirty tricks when he allows it for some but not others. I think that sponsors should look after all affiliates equally instead of different rules for some just because they make them more money, Remember if you didn't have affiliates you would not be where you are today, try treating them equal instead of being greedy and allowing different rules for an extra dollar. And affiliates that cheat maybe someone could make a database where all sponsors could add cheaters that have actually been caught cheating so they cant sign up for any programs
My

aico · 02-11-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by you-hypocrite

What about sponsors that allow some affiliates to do dirty little tricks that affect other affilates but the sponsor allows it because the affiliate doing the dirty little tricks makes the sponsor more money than the affilate that is trying to make an honest living? And then the sponsor has the cheek to post on a webmaster board talking about dirty tricks when he allows it for some but not others. I think that sponsors should look after all affiliates equally instead of different rules for some just because they make them more money, Remember if you didn't have affiliates you would not be where you are today, try treating them equal instead of being greedy and allowing different rules for an extra dollar. And affiliates that cheat maybe someone could make a database where all sponsors could add cheaters that have actually been caught cheating so they cant sign up for any programs
My

sorry but we don't take anyone seriously who is too chicken shit to post their real screennames.

Oh welcome to life. That's the way ALL businesses are run.

BV · 02-11-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

How about affiliates that run large multi-page link lists, then publish their ratios as if every single sponsor was given the same quality traffic as the first 10 on the first page of the list?

?????
Who does this?

pussyluver · 02-11-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

sorry but we don't take anyone seriously who is too chicken shit to post their real screennames.

Oh welcome to life. That's the way ALL businesses are run.

Ok I'll ditto his comments. And whoever posted that should have the balls to sign their name to the comments!

pussyluver · 02-11-2006, 05:35 PM

My sites have been shit on in so many ways! I'd start listing them, but I'd only have more of the same.

Brujah · 02-11-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by you-hypocrite

What about sponsors that allow some affiliates to do dirty little tricks that affect other affilates but the sponsor allows it because the affiliate doing the dirty little tricks makes the sponsor more money than the affilate that is trying to make an honest living? And then the sponsor has the cheek to post on a webmaster board talking about dirty tricks when he allows it for some but not others. I think that sponsors should look after all affiliates equally instead of different rules for some just because they make them more money, Remember if you didn't have affiliates you would not be where you are today, try treating them equal instead of being greedy and allowing different rules for an extra dollar. And affiliates that cheat maybe someone could make a database where all sponsors could add cheaters that have actually been caught cheating so they cant sign up for any programs
My

I would've posted something like this myself, but I'd have done it in the other thread "Dirty Little Secrets of Affiliate Programs"

pussyluver · 02-11-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dugmor

How about the affiliates that show up at your party ... drink all your booze... fu*k all you paid prostitutes.... and never plan on sending even one click !

I've sent traffic to every sponsor that helped get me drunk!!!

Brujah · 02-11-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

How about affiliates that run large multi-page link lists, then publish their ratios as if every single sponsor was given the same quality traffic as the first 10 on the first page of the list?

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Originally Posted by BV

?????
Who does this?

Hoes.com came to mind when he made that post. I wonder if that's who he's talking about. Did they give Lightspeed a poor conversion ration on their sponsors page ? I love reading mb's updates each month.

crockett · 02-11-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Fair is fair! In response to this thread, lets do "Dirty little secrets of affiliates" here.

Do you know of a dirty little secret that one or more affiliates use that results in decreased sponsor income? If so, post it here, no company names needed. I'll start with ones that have always bugged me and is done by TOO MANY affiliates.

- How about the guy that signs up his "brother", "mother", "uncle", "sister", "neighbor" and his dog under HIS OWN REFFERAL, just to send his own traffic and get the 10% referral fee on top of his payout?

- How about the guy that registers domains like TAWNEESTONESOFFICIALSITE.com to confuse surfers?

- Another pet peeve is affiliates that remove our watermarks from content we provide, then add THEIR OWN. or use our exclusive content to promote a competing sponsor.

Others?

Hey that's no fair, I only signed up my neighbor and brother.. you mean I can sign up my mother and uncle too?

Brujah · 02-11-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolo

I´m shocked that not a single affiliate have stepped forward to tell that he/she "does none of the things, which have been mentioned so far" like some sponsors did in the other thread ;-)))

I'm taking notes. "Dirty Little Secrets" usually means more money.

you-hypocrite · 02-11-2006, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

sorry but we don't take anyone seriously who is too chicken shit to post their real screennames.

Oh welcome to life. That's the way ALL businesses are run.

Just because it is my first post doesn't mean I have posted under another nick, I have just never had anything to say in the past because I dont normally get involved in message boards, but thought this thread was interesting and made it my first post. I didn't mean to offend anyone, it was just my

pussyluver · 02-11-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by you-hypocrite

What about sponsors that allow some affiliates to do dirty little tricks that affect other affilates but the sponsor allows it because the affiliate doing the dirty little tricks makes the sponsor more money than the affilate that is trying to make an honest living? And then the sponsor has the cheek to post on a webmaster board talking about dirty tricks when he allows it for some but not others. I think that sponsors should look after all affiliates equally instead of different rules for some just because they make them more money, Remember if you didn't have affiliates you would not be where you are today, try treating them equal instead of being greedy and allowing different rules for an extra dollar. And affiliates that cheat maybe someone could make a database where all sponsors could add cheaters that have actually been caught cheating so they cant sign up for any programs
My

Screw the database part. To much chance for abuse.

pussyluver · 02-11-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by you-hypocrite

Just because it is my first post doesn't mean I have posted under another nick, I have just never had anything to say in the past because I dont normally get involved in message boards, but thought this thread was interesting and made it my first post. I didn't mean to offend anyone, it was just my

Then who are you? What do you do in the industry? Odd user name. Seems like it was selected for this thread!

you-hypocrite · 02-11-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Screw the database part. To much chance for abuse.

Yes good point, I didn't think of that

gfx3 · 02-11-2006, 05:48 PM

Just start with trademarking your sites, you will be able to close down all fraudulent domains using your brand name. I was surprised to how much this is abused in the adult industry.
Fleshlight.tv
thefleshlight.com

just a quick example, it's just not wise not to protect your brand even for an affiliate who might have good intentions with it. Try to set an auction site named the-e-bay.com, you won't know what hit you.

It's worth the $ to protect your brand name.

to Dugmor: If you invite potential affiliates to a party and they drink and eat on your costs and don't send you clicks well you can't blaim them, perhaps after talking with you they don't like what you have to offer. It's a business risk not only related to the adult industry. A company has a budget for this (or should have) a tgp gets freeloaders but in real life there are also lots of freeloaders. If you really hate that type of behaviour just stick to setting up a booth to talk with potential affiliates.

Something else that wasn't mentioned and bugs me is the abuse of known domain names on typo mistakes when you type naughtamerica.com instead of naughtyamerica.com and you get 15 popups. Also not good for you brand name, with a trademark you can claim these sites and redirect them to your own wich will benefit you again. (this hasn't got anything to do with affiliates but is also about abusing brand names.)

BV · 02-11-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Hoes.com came to mind when he made that post. I wonder if that's who he's talking about. Did they give Lightspeed a poor conversion ration on their sponsors page ? I love reading mb's updates each month.

I don't think Steve's statement was referring to Hoes.com sponsor list because then his statement would not be accurate as I don't understand how hoes could send different quality traffic to one sponsor over another.

I think Hoes list is great and I refer to that list myself when I need another sponsor for something. It's been right on the money.

you-hypocrite · 02-11-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Then who are you? What do you do in the industry? Odd user name. Seems like it was selected for this thread!

I am just a nobody in the industry,all I do is build galleries and try and make an honest living. having said that I better do some work, and once again I am sorry if I offended anyone that is why I dont normally say anything.

Meteoseek · 02-11-2006, 05:54 PM

How about affiliates listing all your 200+ hosted galleries in a row?

Nookster · 02-11-2006, 05:59 PM

Yes, lets go ahead now and bash all the people who bring you money. That's a bright idea.

venus · 02-11-2006, 06:36 PM

ya I have a story, happened on the 1st when I was going through the payouts.
I pay a webmaster referral and it seems not even this is safe from scams!
I had one guy from the netherlands, he requested to be paid via paypal, what he did was signup under his affiliate link, a new affiliate account, then would signup again under that affiliate account and he continued this like 6 times, all different names, all different email address, all pay by pay pal BUT ALL the same IP addresses.
He never had very many referrals under each account but spread them out over the multiple accounts thinking only a couple or so would not be noticed. I can view them by IP address so all his accounts were right there.
what some people will do to try to scam a buck...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Fair is fair!

Brujah · 02-11-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

I don't think Steve's statement was referring to Hoes.com sponsor list because then his statement would not be accurate as I don't understand how hoes could send different quality traffic to one sponsor over another.

I think Hoes list is great and I refer to that list myself when I need another sponsor for something. It's been right on the money.

That's one of the dangers of making these kinds of posts. Fuel for more rumors. "Hey, looks like Steve is slamming Hoes.com", and if he comes in to reply that it's not who he's talking about, the next one on the list and so on and so on...

Axeman · 02-11-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i try to send traffic to everyone who has got me drunk at a convention

good rule of thumb! At least give their program a try. I try to do the same as well. Just good business.

Axeman · 02-11-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Meteoseek

How about affiliates listing all your 200+ hosted galleries in a row?

Yes I do hate that. Not to much to ask to just rotate a couple through daily is it?

Rolo · 02-11-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Meteoseek

How about affiliates listing all your 200+ hosted galleries in a row?

I would not say that is a dirty "trick" - its more like dirty "ignorance", since the affiliate will not get more sales from listing all of the FHGs from one paysite - he will just get alot of bored surfers who are tried of seeing the same FHG template(s) 200+ times, and a pissed off sponsor that does not understand why only 0.005% are clicking thru to his tour from the FHGs.

Its a lose/lose situation!

seeric · 02-11-2006, 08:10 PM

heres a bird almost as stoned as most of the people that visit this board

woj · 02-11-2006, 09:32 PM

excellent business thread, lots of useful tips here

(jk)

kmanrox · 02-11-2006, 10:16 PM

--thread bookmarked!--

kmanrox · 02-11-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

excellent business thread, lots of useful tips here

(jk)

this thread will actually save alot of new webmasters alot of money by learning from the experiences posted here...

Scotty.T · 02-12-2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

Yes I do hate that. Not to much to ask to just rotate a couple through daily is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo

I would not say that is a dirty "trick" - its more like dirty "ignorance", since the affiliate will not get more sales from listing all of the FHGs from one paysite - he will just get alot of bored surfers who are tried of seeing the same FHG template(s) 200+ times, and a pissed off sponsor that does not understand why only 0.005% are clicking thru to his tour from the FHGs.

Its a lose/lose situation!

Some (a lot) of sponsors do not really help themselves with this situation either I feel. Sequentially numbered galleries do not help

Rolo · 02-12-2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotty.T

Sequentially numbered galleries do not help

True, but with affiliates demanding strict rules to be followed on the FHG (amount of content, amount of outgoing links, no content on html pages etc.), then sponsors are almost doomed to make "cookie cutter" galleries...

I´m certain that surfers would not mind to have a greater variety in both layout, content and sales pitch on FHGs - as long as it enhance the experience in a positive direction

spacedog · 02-12-2006, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

You mean there's a whole lot of fucking going on in the fuckin' biz?

liars, and twinks and bears, OH MY!

(sorry, just in one of those over caffinated moments)

fucking choked on my coffee..

sumphatpimp · 02-12-2006, 06:21 AM

why leave the suspicion of affiliates or program owners being scammers when you can start two threads and prove it?

nice going!

ROFL!

commonsense · 05-03-2009, 08:13 AM

Classics never die.

seeandsee · 05-03-2009, 08:42 AM

those dirty webmasters

LadyMischief · 05-03-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

How about review sites that penalize for softcore? Or let reviewers who don't even understand a niche review a site in that niche?

All the more reason to have an invite-only program.. Best way to prevent the trash is to vette it well ;)

2MuchMark · 05-03-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Fair is fair! In response to this thread, lets do "Dirty little secrets of affiliates" here.

Do you know of a dirty little secret that one or more affiliates use that results in decreased sponsor income? If so, post it here, no company names needed. I'll start with ones that have always bugged me and is done by TOO MANY affiliates.

- How about the guy that signs up his "brother", "mother", "uncle", "sister", "neighbor" and his dog under HIS OWN REFFERAL, just to send his own traffic and get the 10% referral fee on top of his payout?

- How about the guy that registers domains like TAWNEESTONESOFFICIALSITE.com to confuse surfers?

- Another pet peeve is affiliates that remove our watermarks from content we provide, then add THEIR OWN. or use our exclusive content to promote a competing sponsor.

Others?

Excellent post, Steve. This thread will spark some fights but I bet lots of good comes out of it too. Cheers.

Iron Fist · 05-03-2009, 09:13 AM

Hey everyone, Steve doesn't post on GFY anymore, so your responses will probably never be seen by him again.... this is a OLD OLD thread from 2006...

thehand · 05-03-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dugmor

How about the affiliates that show up at your party ... drink all your booze... fu*k all you paid prostitutes.... and never plan on sending even one click !

Word. On that note, do you have any pix from the big party Danny & Carol threw @ the office/studio about 9 years ago? I think it was her BD. There was on of you & me at the bar that was priceless

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