On the same note, TGP owners don't tell you what converts the best for their traffic... they just sell you a listing that gets a lot of traffic. It's all about researching the traffic and trying different avenues until you find what works best for you. :winkwink:

Too much work. However on this traffic source the company getting the money is doing all the work anyhow so they could easily fill it slap ass full of their own stuff. The answer is that the price is set at or above how much they expect to make themselves so they are doing the work at zero risk. :upsidedow

1) they tried that but made more money selling the traffic all day every day 2) they are sending some of it themselves but realized they made more doing a combo 3) why would somebody want to sell a business that nets $20k a month when he/she could simply hire somebody?

People/companies don't necessarily want to handle and oversee every step themselves. They don't necessarily want all the headaches.

Wow this thread turned ugly quick.

And... how is that?

Too much work.

Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??

sounds kinda like it

Ugly? Nobody's mother has been mentioned yet, so I think it's going quite well.

Still haven't had my second post answered though...

Less risk. This way, they focus on selling their service and not worrying about conversions. Let the experts (their customers) fine tune the campaigns and let P2PAds stick to their distribution.
WG

our P2PADS campaign:

AAC:
http://www.uploadpics.com/image/164.jpeg
AFF:
http://www.uploadpics.com/image/165.jpeg

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

:mad:

You?re assuming they don?t.

You could ask Google the same questions about adwords. :)

We sell traffic to blogs, tgp's landing pages, AVS sites, free sites, paysites and more. Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.

That about sums up this thread.

How much longer is it gonna run?

You think you will make your money back?

Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.

1 person does good, 1 person does bad. Just depends on the person and what program they are sending the traffic too. I can't take the risk of trying it right now like I would like too but possibly in the future.

They dont, look at post 1.

Maybe partly, but why even partly is its this profitable?

Wiredguy mentioned less risk. Well of all people the p2pads guys must know what converts and what not?

Thats what im saying.

wm_cibi have you tried to work with us on your conversions?

I would like to help you make that campaign work for you. Give us the opportunity now before your campaign ends to possibly help you with your landing pages and possibly extend your campaign.

BTW you only show 2 stats pages where is the 3rd url going?

ROI=Return on Investment?

wow



8char

Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME :)

Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

Have patience Obie One :)

DH

True true, a lot of dating sponsors convert days to even months after the free signups.

With datinggold im still get sales from people who signed up AGES ago.

It is true it takes longer for a free member to convert but I just notice his free sign-ups are kinda weak.

My fart(from animal retard traffic) converts better to free sign-ups.

DH is right. Brad and I have run our own P2P campaigns that ended over a year ago and we still get checks from sponsors.

Something killed this thread.

What are your rates Brad?

Guys

The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)

I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.

Jay

the p2p crew are great people

That's nice of you Dave, thanks!

Thanks for breaking it down Jay. I know you know what's up. :)

I have done a lot of P2P campaigns, tried various sponsors with my own networks. I know one thing, it's ok if you can do it yourself for free ( I generate my own P2P traffic) but I wouldn't pay for it at all. Especially the prices being charged, might as well throw your money out the window :2 cents:

your back ? <3

Uhm...explain that to me.

You sell a package for 10k and the client makes 15k with it by pushing a sponsor. If you wouldve done it yourself (which you did anyway, just not your referral link) you wouldve made 5k more.

No, give me something better because the answer above is pure bs.

It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.

This traffic is so good, so profitable, does so well with dating sponsors etc. Hey lets give it away and lose money.

Yeah that makes so much sense.

Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.

Maybe you missed the part where I said I have a 150% return on my initial investment... and growing

hilarious

Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?

What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?