Question about ARS - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 09:08 AM

I was just at one of their sites, and the exit was to a sextracker dialer
http://www.bootycollege.com/frs.php

Do webmasters get paid on dialer exits?

Paparazzi · 04-17-2002, 09:13 AM

nope

J.R. · 04-17-2002, 09:14 AM

Maybe it's something new.. LOL..

Trax · 04-17-2002, 09:16 AM

thats really gay

Gary · 04-17-2002, 09:31 AM

Ooooh, lensman has his claws out.

Kimmykim · 04-17-2002, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Gary
Ooooh, lensman has his claws out.

Play nice or you'll get banned again dipshit.

zubr · 04-17-2002, 10:20 AM

lol, that really sucks, they must be in some deep shit

FierceHost · 04-17-2002, 10:28 AM

dang, that does suck

Wiredoctor · 04-17-2002, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
I was just at one of their sites, and the exit was to a sextracker dialer
http://www.bootycollege.com/frs.php

Do webmasters get paid on dialer exits?

No you don't get paid on exit. OK their scum and anyone that uses any sponson that doesnt pay on exit is an idiot. Think about it, the sponsor builds a crap tour and DOES NOT want anyone to sign up, what they want is to bounce all the traffic out to their sponsors. so in essence all the idiot webmasters just supply them with traffic...this is nothing new, many sponsors have been doing this for a Loooonnnnnnnngggggggg time...

pr0view · 04-17-2002, 10:48 AM

lensman surfs for porn again

well, lots of sponsors make most of their money on chained exits, other programs and dialers... i guess ars needs some fast cash

everyone plays such tricks now and then.

Theo · 04-17-2002, 10:56 AM

the funny is that the webmasters of the board some weeks ago voted ARS in a poll as the best sponsor. I vote ARS among the worse ones for ME.

Pipecrew · 04-17-2002, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
the funny is that the webmasters of the board some weeks ago voted ARS in a poll as the best sponsor. I vote ARS among the worse ones for ME.

me too! them and clickcash

Toolz · 04-17-2002, 11:01 AM

The dialer exit you're referring to is only displayed for foreign IP addresses, or those users surfing through an anonymous proxy. This is nothing new, it's been in place over 8 months now with no changes.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz
The dialer exit you're referring to is only displayed for foreign IP addresses, or those users surfing through an anonymous proxy. This is nothing new, it's been in place over 8 months now with no changes.

First, this is not a bash thread, I was really just looking at business strategies. If other webmasters like/don't like ARS, that's not my problem.

But I assure you that I'm not on a proxy nor am I on a foreign IP, in fact, I'm on the same IP block as GFY is.

Nysus · 04-17-2002, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

First, this is not a bash thread, I was really just looking at business strategies. If other webmasters like/don't like ARS, that's not my problem.

But I assure you that I'm not on a proxy nor am I on a foreign IP, in fact, I'm on the same IP block as GFY is.

You live at the colocation facility? :D

Cheers,
Matt

Gary · 04-17-2002, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus

You live at the colocation facility? :D

Cheers,
Matt

He has a waterbed next to all the servers. LOL

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:21 AM

No, we have 3 DS3s at work

We're kindof big.

Eric · 04-17-2002, 11:22 AM

Yeah I get the same thing here when I exit. Awefully interesting.

Fletch XXX · 04-17-2002, 11:24 AM

I fucking hate dialers.

Steve · 04-17-2002, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Play nice or you'll get banned again dipshit.

AH!

Steve · 04-17-2002, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

No you don't get paid on exit. OK their scum and anyone that uses any sponson that doesnt pay on exit is an idiot. Think about it, the sponsor builds a crap tour and DOES NOT want anyone to sign up, what they want is to bounce all the traffic out to their sponsors. so in essence all the idiot webmasters just supply them with traffic...this is nothing new, many sponsors have been doing this for a Loooonnnnnnnngggggggg time...

I always liked ARS tours. Even when I am not a big ARS fan. I think they have some of the nicest tours out there, at least the majority of the sites I have seen. They have what, 2000 paysites now? I can't know them all.

Toolz · 04-17-2002, 11:40 AM

Lens,

Can you send me your IP block so I can check with Sextracker on why it's getting directed to the dialer page please:
[email protected]

Thanks

The Truth · 04-17-2002, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz
The dialer exit you're referring to is only displayed for foreign IP addresses, or those users surfing through an anonymous proxy. This is nothing new, it's been in place over 8 months now with no changes.

Shit, that's one more reply than anyone gets on the ARS board. There's about 10 threads in there now bitching about the speed of NexGen and not a single reply to any of them.

I used to defend ARS but I stopped doing that a while ago.

Tipsy · 04-17-2002, 01:12 PM

I got the dialler too. Seems UK counts as forgeign as well. Last I checked we were speaking almost the same language as the USA and certainly spend as much per head on porn.

Kimmykim · 04-17-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
I got the dialler too. Seems UK counts as forgeign as well. Last I checked we were speaking almost the same language as the USA and certainly spend as much per head on porn.

Well duh, UK is UK, not US. F O R E I G N.

Tipsy · 04-17-2002, 02:00 PM

Well duh yourslef. The idea of filtering foreign traffic is because it does not convert on English sites well. Seems fucking daft to me to filter UK traffic was the point I was making. If you're filtering UK traffic as foreign it's certainly not me who's the idiot

sarcasticbastard · 04-17-2002, 02:03 PM

who was this about?
All Ready Shaved?
heard they're great.
about as great as my next project
revshave.com
sounds like ars busted again or
business as usual
you decide
ltrz

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz
Lens,

Can you send me your IP block so I can check with Sextracker on why it's getting directed to the dialer page please:
[email protected]

Thanks

Same block as GFY

traceroute to www.gofuckyourself.com (66.60.188.13), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 31.ge4-0.er1a.sjc1.us.mfnx.net (207.126.96.189) 0.517 ms 0.537 ms 0.636 ms
2 pos4-1.mpr2.sjc1.us.mfnx.net (208.185.175.249) 0.504 ms 0.571 ms 0.503 ms
3 so-1-0-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.102.206) 0.614 ms 0.692 ms 0.654 ms
4 pos11-0.cr7.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (64.125.30.5) 0.572 ms 0.629 ms 0.575 ms
5 qwest-above.sjc2.above.net (208.185.175.74) 0.723 ms 0.813 ms 0.768 ms
6 svl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.14.105) 1.026 ms 0.954 ms 0.903 ms
7 * svl-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.14.117) 0.972 ms 1.005 ms
8 sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.99) 1.069 ms 1.190 ms 1.263 ms
9 sjo-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.9) 1.180 ms 1.288 ms 1.163 ms
10 sjo-edge-08.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.129) 1.212 ms 1.339 ms 1.299 ms
11 205.171.43.250 (205.171.43.250) 4.480 ms 4.646 ms 4.587 ms
12 7513-1.net.surewest.net (208.45.228.240) 16.172 ms 14.692 ms 14.744 ms
13 254.100MB.firstname.com (66.60.131.254) 17.114 ms 16.068 ms 17.205 ms
14 66.60.188.13 (66.60.188.13) 15.010 ms 15.768 ms 16.629 ms

jreaka · 04-17-2002, 02:16 PM

Nothing good comes out of dialers......

hollywood · 04-17-2002, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Tipsy
who's the idiot?

You are - UK is more profitable on dialers than pay sites moron.

Uncle Vinny · 04-17-2002, 02:45 PM

If you're not using ARS...you're probly making money.

(edited because i cant type)

ez12 · 04-17-2002, 03:08 PM

well if ARS wil keep converting 1:150 for me I'll stay with them without sayin shit about them

oh yeah 1final thing 'do not use trafficcashgold they suck'

jimmy3way · 04-17-2002, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Wiredoctor

No you don't get paid on exit. OK their scum and anyone that uses any sponson that doesnt pay on exit is an idiot. Think about it, the sponsor builds a crap tour and DOES NOT want anyone to sign up, what they want is to bounce all the traffic out to their sponsors. so in essence all the idiot webmasters just supply them with traffic...this is nothing new, many sponsors have been doing this for a Loooonnnnnnnngggggggg time...

Dude, you plagarized that from the TB business plan.

Tipsy · 04-17-2002, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hollywood

You are - UK is more profitable on dialers than pay sites moron.

I haven't the time or patience to get into slanging matches with fucking idiots. There's far better ways to spend my time. If your traffic converts better with a dialer good luck to you. I'll stay with the rather nice conversions I get and the recurrings. I've tried both and I know which puts the most dollars in my account.

You sometimes gotta wonder what the fucks the matter with people on boards generally when there's so many assholes around can't offer anything constructive except childish comments. My original post was trying to make what I considered to be a valid point and now there's two assholes decide to act like little kids and rather than offer any constructive comments start childish insults.

Oh well - I'm away for a few days so you children play amongst yourselves.

hollywood · 04-17-2002, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

I haven't the time or patience to get into slanging matches with fucking idiots. There's far better ways to spend my time. If your traffic converts better with a dialer good luck to you.

Maybe you missed the part of it being on the EXIT console??

Of course UK is more profitable on a credit card processor for the front end, but the exit console if a different story.

Every program has their own business model. Many of the larger ones use exit revenue to pay such high rates to webmasters for initial sales. The bottom line is the amount of revenue you get out of the program compared to the amount of traffic you put in.

GatorB · 04-17-2002, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

No you don't get paid on exit. OK their scum and anyone that uses any sponson that doesnt pay on exit is an idiot. Think about it, the sponsor builds a crap tour and DOES NOT want anyone to sign up, what they want is to bounce all the traffic out to their sponsors. so in essence all the idiot webmasters just supply them with traffic...this is nothing new, many sponsors have been doing this for a Loooonnnnnnnngggggggg time...

YES you go get paid on exits with ARS. WTF are YOU talking about? Maybe you're thinking of Maxcash.

Wiredoctor · 04-17-2002, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB

YES you go get paid on exits with ARS. WTF are YOU talking about? Maybe you're thinking of Maxcash.

Well so far everyone here who has gotten redirected (and not from foriegn ip's either) including Lensman did not see the referrer code follow on the exit. Now Iam sure buy now they are changing this because they got cought??..LOL...

Jimmy 3 way, your funny bro

...

jimmyf · 04-17-2002, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

No you don't get paid on exit. OK their scum and anyone that uses any sponson that doesnt pay on exit is an idiot. Think about it, the sponsor builds a crap tour and DOES NOT want anyone to sign up, what they want is to bounce all the traffic out to their sponsors. so in essence all the idiot webmasters just supply them with traffic...this is nothing new, many sponsors have been doing this for a Loooonnnnnnnngggggggg time...

Right on... this is one of the 1st lessons I was taught....Yeeeear's ago....

Marc De · 04-17-2002, 07:02 PM

Wiredoctor - I highly doubt everyone who has posted on this thread in the US has been redirected to a dialer. I just tested the link 20 times and got our exit console EVERY time. We are in the process of changing nothing as we've been 'caught' (as you like to put it) of nothing. However, we have communicated with Money Tree (who runs the country redirection) to verify that their software is running correctly...

The facts are ARS pays on approx 65% of the traffic that hits our exits. We retain roughly 35% via our sponsor links and foreign dialer redirection (redirection on EXIT only). The dialer is made to pop on foreign countries that have shown to have poor exit value via normal credit card payment sites.

The dialer has been in place over 8 months and was communicated to our webmasters as that time.

Back to NHL Playoffs - GO WINGS!

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 07:42 PM

Wings lost in OT. We have some Canadians here who are happy, even though I am originally from the Detroit area.

Anyway, it sounds like sextracker's country detection is faulty (not surprised), I'm sure ARS wouldn't want to dump US traffic to a dialer.

ARS is a good program, I'm not sure why some guys are dumping on it. Like I said before, I go to almost all major programs to see what they are doing and if we should do the same. I have to do that, because no one calls me and gives me advice (except FM).

Marc De · 04-17-2002, 07:51 PM

Lens - those damn Wings hehe You are originally from Gross Pointe if I remember? Well Detroit will still win the series 4-2 Hopefully the rest of the series doesn't have all the wierd goals that there was in this game.

BTW - I never get phone calls either, sheesh

Theo · 04-17-2002, 08:18 PM

you're gonna get an urgent call very soon since you owe last month's fees to Boneprone family and the photos of your cars you promised some time ago in another thread.

Marc De · 04-17-2002, 08:21 PM

That is right - I do have to get some damn pics of my cars. I'll have to turn that into this weekends fun project. I pick up the GT 500 from being bored, balanced, and blue printed... I'm so excited

04-17-2002, 09:08 AM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Question about ARS I was just at one of their sites, and the exit was to a sextracker dialer http://www.bootycollege.com/frs.php Do webmasters get paid on dialer exits?

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04-17-2002, 11:01 AM	#13
Toolz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Podunk Posts: 690	The dialer exit you're referring to is only displayed for foreign IP addresses, or those users surfing through an anonymous proxy. This is nothing new, it's been in place over 8 months now with no changes.

04-17-2002, 11:21 AM	#17
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Toolz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Podunk Posts: 690	Lens, Can you send me your IP block so I can check with Sextracker on why it's getting directed to the dialer page please: [email protected] Thanks

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04-17-2002, 02:00 PM	#26
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Well duh yourslef. The idea of filtering foreign traffic is because it does not convert on English sites well. Seems fucking daft to me to filter UK traffic was the point I was making. If you're filtering UK traffic as foreign it's certainly not me who's the idiot __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

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04-17-2002, 07:02 PM	#39
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Wiredoctor - I highly doubt everyone who has posted on this thread in the US has been redirected to a dialer. I just tested the link 20 times and got our exit console EVERY time. We are in the process of changing nothing as we've been 'caught' (as you like to put it) of nothing. However, we have communicated with Money Tree (who runs the country redirection) to verify that their software is running correctly... The facts are ARS pays on approx 65% of the traffic that hits our exits. We retain roughly 35% via our sponsor links and foreign dialer redirection (redirection on EXIT only). The dialer is made to pop on foreign countries that have shown to have poor exit value via normal credit card payment sites. The dialer has been in place over 8 months and was communicated to our webmasters as that time. Back to NHL Playoffs - GO WINGS!

04-17-2002, 07:42 PM	#40
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Wings lost in OT. We have some Canadians here who are happy, even though I am originally from the Detroit area. Anyway, it sounds like sextracker's country detection is faulty (not surprised), I'm sure ARS wouldn't want to dump US traffic to a dialer. ARS is a good program, I'm not sure why some guys are dumping on it. Like I said before, I go to almost all major programs to see what they are doing and if we should do the same. I have to do that, because no one calls me and gives me advice (except FM).

04-17-2002, 07:51 PM	#41
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Lens - those damn Wings hehe You are originally from Gross Pointe if I remember? Well Detroit will still win the series 4-2 Hopefully the rest of the series doesn't have all the wierd goals that there was in this game. BTW - I never get phone calls either, sheesh

04-17-2002, 08:18 PM	#42
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you're gonna get an urgent call very soon since you owe last month's fees to Boneprone family and the photos of your cars you promised some time ago in another thread.

04-17-2002, 08:21 PM	#43
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	That is right - I do have to get some damn pics of my cars. I'll have to turn that into this weekends fun project. I pick up the GT 500 from being bored, balanced, and blue printed... I'm so excited