How much should I offer this model?

[leggs]

I'm not exactly certain this image host permits this kind of photo...
So I'm not certain how long it will last.

Ok,
So I get this email from this woman. She claims that she has done video before and is eager to do it again.

She does boy-girl with a codom. (No anal)
No facial ejaculation.
Must have a rubber on for the oral too.

The rate she quoted me was 450 euro but will do 400 for cash.



I'm thinking 150 to 250 euro...
And only if she looses the condom bullshit

[kernelpanic]

I think she should be paying you........yeah

[Buddah00]

[jacked]

um she's not hot tell her the only way she's getting that money is if she does a 10 guy gangbang

[26MLR]

ick.

how much will she pay? ;-)

[kernelpanic]

On second thought, she'd be perfect for a "Whores of the Trailerpark" reality site.




You could hire Springer to be the narrator.......

[Alphonso]

i will pass

[OMG Jim]

Low Ball Her

Tell her 200 is all you've got. Take it or leave it.
Remember you're the one that has to make your money back.



Big Sig

[leggs]

Originally Posted by jacked

um she's not hot tell her the only way she's getting that money is if she does a 10 guy gangbang

Buddy,
Sincerly thanks for the advice.

But I'm in France.....

The choices are soooooo fucking slim out here it isn't even funny. It's the only reason I'm considering her. Because if this was L.A.... I wouldn't even bother with a poloriod.

As for the men in a 10 man gang bang....

Tried that once. Lost half the men when the camera came out.
(They left.. Not sure where they got confused when I said it was being filmed)

Of those that remained, another bunch demanded masks.

And only 2 men could keep wood. But everyone demanded to be paid.

NEVER AGAIN!!!

[DutchTeenCash]

That bad in France? there gotta be girls who look better then her, 450 is a lotta money for a women with her looks...

[seeric]

good god from the sounds of your story bro, i'd get the hell out of france. why don't girls in france do porn?

[kernelpanic]

No way you have that limited of selection - I've seen tons of true amateur content from France that is WAY better than that.



Now all you have to do is find some French girl who wants to make some extra cash, or has a bad coke habit, and you're set.......

[leggs]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

good god from the sounds of your story bro, i'd get the hell out of france. why don't girls in france do porn?

Two words...
Welfare State

There are a few GOOD porn girls. Like Angelina Crowe, Ana Martin, Delfin Delage.

But they are the exception and not the rule.

Plus it is a very "catty" industry here.

We manufacture really hard core condomless gonzo.

It's kind of like Extreme of a couple years ago. If a girl was shot a lot by them, other companies didn't want to use her. We piss in a girl's ass with a funel and suddenly nobody else will film her.

For the most part we go to the Czech, Poland and Russia for our women. Sometimes Barcelona

I haven't filmed in about 2 months so I was thinking perhaps she might be good for a Granny thing.

[Barefootsies]

I dunno man...

It sounds like it's slim pickens in France. But I would honestly tell you to maybe work on the recruiting aspect, and cast a bigger net.

I know when I took over the recruiting from business partner who was bringing me a bunch of easy, or trashy strippers for my 'girl next door theme' I was having a hard time too at first. I basically changed my method of recruiting, and now have picked up a lot of nice amateurs. Now I am not saying these girls are a-list jordan capri's or raven rileys, but they are better than what we were getting, and memeberships shot to the moon.

When I first started doing it for a month or so, all I would find are the desperados, and most of them were YUCK. So I passed, determined to find some nice one's. Eventually it paid off.

For me looking at your find, regardless of hardcore, I can't see paying her much more than $100-200. For me it's always about ROI. I do not know if she would get me my money back in 30 days.

Just my

[Violetta]

lol... I can like this thread!

[Sam Granger]

Damn, I wouldn't even want to be paid to shoot that.... well, depends on how much I'd be paid.

[Expo_Vids]

I just puked up my morning bagel.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Vive la...WTF?!? (must rinse eyeballs)

Promise her the moon and stars and then just shoot her the moon...j/k.

Honestly, she's not my style, so I wouldn't shoot her, and I have no advice for you.

Now, I really must rinse my eyeballs...(Christ almighty, like it would have killed you to post a warning).

ADG Webmaster

[Evil1]

[Paul Markham]

I would offer her the door. She's not going to sell.

I would change my methods of recruiting models if I wass you, the local pensioners and farmers social club is not doing it for you.

[Denis_SC]

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

I think she should be paying you........yeah

And she will have to open 1,000 Credit Cards on her name and start registering as a member on her own site . Otherwise there won't be any $$$ for you in it .

[leggs]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I dunno man...

It sounds like it's slim pickens in France. But I would honestly tell you to maybe work on the recruiting aspect, and cast a bigger net.

I know when I took over the recruiting from business partner who was bringing me a bunch of easy, or trashy strippers for my 'girl next door theme' I was having a hard time too at first. I basically changed my method of recruiting, and now have picked up a lot of nice amateurs. Now I am not saying these girls are a-list jordan capri's or raven rileys, but they are better than what we were getting, and memeberships shot to the moon.

When I first started doing it for a month or so, all I would find are the desperados, and most of them were YUCK. So I passed, determined to find some nice one's. Eventually it paid off.

For me looking at your find, regardless of hardcore, I can't see paying her much more than $100-200. For me it's always about ROI. I do not know if she would get me my money back in 30 days.

Just my

Well anytime I start to talk about the French porn industry or doing any business in France I get attacked for being intolerant. Lets just say I base my opinions upon my experiences and leave it at that.

Anyone who remembers me in California knows I pimped my man and it's all about the money with me. When push comes to shove, I don't care if you're Satan. Just do what we agree to and show me the money. (Jim The Fiend can vouch for that)

The only thing I am going to say is that we are friends with Rebecca Lord and Liza Harper. And we have discussed at great lengths the French Porn Industry, French bureacracy and "True" cultural attitudes they have toward sex.

There are good reasons that Rebecca Lord now lives in Barcelona and Liza is in L.A.

When you also consider that

1) Melisa Lauren, Manuel Ferrara, Katsumi and Jochim all either visit the United States or have moved to Los Angeles.

2) the Euro to the US dollar....

3) These performers had to learn a new language, jump through immigration hoops and move to a place where they don't know anyone.

(And accept 240 different types of fast food cheeseburger instead of 240 types of cheese and wines)

Well....
I guess I don't have to paint anyone a picture and everyone is free to make their own conclusions.

As for me and my company.
We make periodic trips to the Czech, Poland, Russia, etc.

(I'm only asking about the model because I've got an itchy trigger finger and want to film... If I can get her cheap enough I'll stick her in a granny freak video)

[tony286]

megayuck lol

[Scroto]

give her a good...six inches

[Sosa]

she is nasty. better to think if you can make your money back from shooting her

[HorseShit]

Originally Posted by Evil1

[Brandon99]

I think you should pay her the lint from your pocket...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by leggs

Well anytime I start to talk about the French porn industry or doing any business in France I get attacked for being intolerant. Lets just say I base my opinions upon my experiences and leave it at that.

Anyone who remembers me in California knows I pimped my man and it's all about the money with me. When push comes to shove, I don't care if you're Satan. Just do what we agree to and show me the money. (Jim The Fiend can vouch for that)

The only thing I am going to say is that we are friends with Rebecca Lord and Liza Harper. And we have discussed at great lengths the French Porn Industry, French bureacracy and "True" cultural attitudes they have toward sex.

There are good reasons that Rebecca Lord now lives in Barcelona and Liza is in L.A.

When you also consider that

1) Melisa Lauren, Manuel Ferrara, Katsumi and Jochim all either visit the United States or have moved to Los Angeles.

2) the Euro to the US dollar....

3) These performers had to learn a new language, jump through immigration hoops and move to a place where they don't know anyone.

(And accept 240 different types of fast food cheeseburger instead of 240 types of cheese and wines)

Well....
I guess I don't have to paint anyone a picture and everyone is free to make their own conclusions.

As for me and my company.
We make periodic trips to the Czech, Poland, Russia, etc.

(I'm only asking about the model because I've got an itchy trigger finger and want to film... If I can get her cheap enough I'll stick her in a granny freak video)

No worries.

I was just giving you my I personally would pass. I know the itchy trigger finger thing. Sometimes you wanna grab anything just to get some material, or something. I've come to refrain, and wait it out. Which has been paying off.

I do not know anything about what's available in France. I just know for me, and my niche, or market. By comparison, I would not get a good ROI for her. So for myself, I would pass.

[Big Red Machine]

Is she holding a Purple Winged Bat between her legs

I hear ya about your Gang Bang experience. Lights and Camera definitely weeds out the Boys from the Men. That still amazes me

[Jackie69]

Originally Posted by jacked

um she's not hot tell her the only way she's getting that money is if she does a 10 guy gangbang

That's really mean.

[Jackie69]

Originally Posted by leggs

Buddy,
Sincerly thanks for the advice.

But I'm in France.....

The choices are soooooo fucking slim out here it isn't even funny. It's the only reason I'm considering her. Because if this was L.A.... I wouldn't even bother with a poloriod.

As for the men in a 10 man gang bang....

Tried that once. Lost half the men when the camera came out.
(They left.. Not sure where they got confused when I said it was being filmed)

Of those that remained, another bunch demanded masks.

And only 2 men could keep wood. But everyone demanded to be paid.

NEVER AGAIN!!!

Well, damn. Maybe I should go to France! No gangbangs of course, but I'd be sure make more money doing the shit I already do now!

[leggs]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

No worries.

I was just giving you my I personally would pass. I know the itchy trigger finger thing. Sometimes you wanna grab anything just to get some material, or something. I've come to refrain, and wait it out. Which has been paying off.

I do not know anything about what's available in France. I just know for me, and my niche, or market. By comparison, I would not get a good ROI for her. So for myself, I would pass.

We came to France for reasons other than the porn industry. It's not a bad place if you are NOT doing business. AND enjoy conversations that really don't go anywhere. (Sometimes that's a good thing)

Originally Posted by Big Red Machine

Is she holding a Purple Winged Bat between her legs

I hear ya about your Gang Bang experience. Lights and Camera definitely weeds out the Boys from the Men. That still amazes me

I never film a new male alone. Always at least 2 on 1.

Even the best woodsman will fail from time to time. You just have to accept that fact.

I don't get pissed off unless they will NOT take a pill!
(IE: I don't care about your ego... I'm paying for someone to get fucked.)

[Barefootsies]

Leggs-Frenchie

Yeah, I've heard good ole Parie is a nice place to visit. Just don't tell them you are American. Apparently in some areas over there, they do not much care for the foreigners, or Americans.

I've also heard if you do not know how to speak wee-wee you get a lot of nasty looks. Same for those who do not speak it well. I've had some people I've known who had went over there, and told me of their experience.

While I would like to travel parts of Europe, I've never thought of France. Sounds like you are loving it though.

[polle45]

Originally Posted by Evil1

Agreeee!

[leggs]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Leggs-Frenchie

Yeah, I've heard good ole Parie is a nice place to visit. Just don't tell them you are American. Apparently in some areas over there, they do not much care for the foreigners, or Americans.

I've also heard if you do not know how to speak wee-wee you get a lot of nasty looks. Same for those who do not speak it well. I've had some people I've known who had went over there, and told me of their experience.

While I would like to travel parts of Europe, I've never thought of France. Sounds like you are loving it though.

90% of my life is business. The other 10% is being involved in things like human rights activities. France is really bad for the former and great for the latter. So when it comes to financial matters, I can sound damn jadeded and intolerant.

But still every culture is made up of both good and bad things. Currently in our world if we point out the bad parts of a society/culture/nation/etc We get called racist or prejudice.

Which is just plain wrong to do. Acknowledging what is wrong is a good thing. The world wouldn't be so fucked up if we did that more often.

I am a Métise. (Mi'kmaq Indienne and Québecoise) I come from the Gaspésie region of Quebec and my first language is french.

Soooo I will call a spade.... A spade.

1) France is a very intolerant society toward ALL foriegners

2) Frenchmen see what they want and acknowledge only what they want to see.

3)No matter how fluent you are in French. You will never speak it well enough for a Frenchmen.

The last one is the hardest for both my husband and I. He is both a Newfoundlander and Acadien, and I grew up near Paspébiac in the Gaspesie.

I get made fun of for my accent constantly. To the point I want to hit someone. The point, sneer and snicker thing gets old real fast!

On the other hand, husband is always being treated like dirt. Half of the time a person does NOT even try and listen to him. And again, like me, his first language is French.

I don't know why he likes it here because if he isn't in a tourist area... Let's just say people at McDonalds try to ignore him when it comes time to take his order.

But...

I guess the Louvre is pretty cool.
Summer here is really nice.
And it is pretty fucking awsome that we can sail on our boat right into Paris.

France is a really great place if you are an artist. And he is a writter that is busy making his "artistic visionairy" films.

Whereas,

I like beer and vodka and couldn't give a shit about wine.
I prefer to hunt bear and think goose liver pâte sucks.

And do NOT give a rat's ass about having more than 240 different kinds of cheese or what you can make with a truffle.

Baby, my heart beats to the capitalist drum.

Oh well as for the model...
I told her to fuck off! Now she tried pulling that will only fuck her boyfriend crap. And get this... the boyfriend is in his mid 50s.

Putting her in a video with an 18 year old boy and having him pretend he is fucking his grandmother. O.K! I'll do it.

But I'm not filming "The Nursing Home Frolic."

[Spunky]

I feel violated..how about some hamburger platters