sandman!

nowhere in my posts was i talking about people promising illegal content in members area or actual illegal content.

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iwantchixx

Does it make it right?

They are skating on thin ice as it is.

KRL

ARS has had this policy for a long time. They list all the "no can do" words on their terms of service.

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quantum-x

i rememebr getting my account yanked years ago for the same thing. Years ago. it's in the TOS. You read those things, right?

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Young

remove the words...reapply and stop bitching.

no need to use the word lolita or the phrase young girl to convert or get clicks.

XX_RydeR

What he said, works for both you and ARS..

ARS, dont need it.

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gfx3

OK then, after some thinking, checking thehun's archives for the L word and not finding it there anymore (It was used on that site in the past). I deceided to get rid of the word. 40 minutes editing and my site is 100% lolita free.

Mainly to avoid problems with sponsors and payments in the future, I do understand some of them have a certain fear to be associated with the word, (US based companies that is) and certainly those who are selling the lolita type content.
As it is my intention to offer a quality site towards my surfers I also don't want to be a bad affiliate for my sponsors so I'm clean now.

Now for the term "young girl" that's just rediculous. Like many people mentioned above when for example two old guys are talking about the young hot girls from the university in their city they are referring to 23 year old women. Since I also use terms young chicks, young babes etc.... I am not even gonne start on that subject.

In my native language a young girl can be in the range of 15 years to 23 depending on how the particular girl looks. America is not the world and the world is not America, I think I adjusted my site enough and have to draw the line somewhere. Because if I don't who says I'm not gonne get sued by some animal organisation like PETA because I abuse the term pussy to much and they are sponsored by Visa and so on.....

The main thing is the porn links are clean and have nothing to do with kiddieporn. From time to time I also don't list certain sponsor galleries just because the particular girl in that gallery doesn't look like she has reached adult age in my eyes.

Before I started my site I did check on the controversial term lolita and saw many adult sites are even using it in their keywords or title so I figured it wasn't illegal and didn't see the harm using it in the proper context.

Enough said and thanks to some of the people in this thread who supplied valid arguments to get rid of the word.


GFX3

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Tom_PM

Then you can't join, no biggy.

What I mean is, "young girl" is a banned term. Arguments about it simply dont matter

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SomeCreep

You are 100% incorrect. You just gave the definition of a "teen", not a "lolita".

"Lolita" is a keyword used to search for girls 17 years old and younger. In other words, girls who are not legal yet.

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Noe

Dude, ARS has a good reason for banning you because you use that name. I've been to a federal building where a room of feds where scanning the Internet looking for sites with that name. What you or I may think is normal and ok doesn't have anything to do with what the government thinks. You might want to roll the dice and take a risk, but I'm sure ARS doesn't want to be red flagged.

FightThisPatent

The issue of the word 'lolita' is not US-based.. it's VISA-based. VISA is international and their rules apply to all countries.

I understand your point that sometimes things are so US-centric in view and how we try to export those views to other countries, but you are not dealing with the government here, you are dealing with VISA's TOS that is passed on down the chain.


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gfx3

I understand, I guess your terms are to strict for me. Young girl, young teen are listed but young chick or young ebony aren't. One would get confused
I also looked at the list from the US goverment and I'm ok with that list. There wouldn't be a prob if I used thumbs but I went with text, I still want to write my descriptions in a creative style so I don't care I can't be an affiliate.
Besides I write 80 links each day and if I make a mistake in a moment I'm not concentrated and write young teen or something you would close my account according to your terms.

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DWB

That is not correct. If you knew anything about what pedos really look for you would find out that "lolita" is not a term they really use. Yes, it means a young adolescent girl, but it does not always mean it's an underage girl. There are LOTS of other keywords that they use when looking for CP. There are several detailed reports of this online, go look some of them up and see for yourself. If I have time later I will find them and post them here for you. A very interesting read.

I will also add that true CP is NOT common to find in pay sites or even in the open. All the real CP that is floating around is done so via P2P networks, for free.

I'm not really for or against the word for internet use, I just disagree that it sould be banned when other words are much worse.

DWB

Exactly. You can also dress them in pigtails, in schoolgirl costumes, have them suck their thumbs, fuck their daddies friends, ride the school bus and fuck the bus driver, sleep with stuffed animals and over all appear to be underage as long as you don't say they are or use the few silly terms set by visa.

I'm sorry but the only girls that ride a school bus are underage. The only girls who wear school girl clothes are underage. Having a site that has "virgins" is clearly about underage girls. There is not a virgin that is over 18 years old within 5000 miles from where I'm sitting.

So with that said, I think it's all just a buch of BS and the same people who will bash you for wanting to use "lolita" or "young girl" will promote the exact same site that those terms apply to but worse because the girls will act the part. Schoolgirls, riding the bus, fucking dads friends, virgins, first timers, teens... produced by some of the largest programs on the internet, but that's somehow all ok. The industry is full of fed fearing hypocrites.

And don't even get me started on the Asian niche where the majority of the people promote a site where the guy has HIV and is still shooting. Nobody cares, because promoting such a site will not get them into trouble. It would take Visa or the government to say sites with HIV+ talent are now banned to get them to stop.

Fucking greedy assholes. All of you.

Theo

lolita word is against visa regulations

that alone sets a rule to follow

fuzebox

stupidest statement I've read in a long time...

You know what "lolita" means and it's origins, right?

gfx3

Please this says more about you than it does about my knowledge about the damn word.

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KrisKross

Your native language has nothing to do with it. Your site is in English and you're marketing it to Americans. The money you make from it comes from American companies, processed through American processing accounts.

How can you argue with dictionary definitions of words?

lolita - n : a sexually precocious young girl
(precocious - adj. : Showing unusually early development or maturity.)

That means a lolita is a young girl who is sexually developed/mature before her peers typically are. Most females become sexually developed/matured in their mid-teens, so a lolita is someone who is younger than her mid-teens.

girl - n : A female child.

If a girl is a female child, what does that make a young girl?

GatorB

Listen twit Lolita means underage. The girl in the book was 12. People looking for "lolita" pics are looking for CP, PERIOD. So why are you catering to them? Any dude that likes women to dress up like little girls is a pedophile. He just doesn't want to get caught so he does the next best thing to fill his sicko desires.

As far as "young girl" welll technically "girl" means under 18 though most people us it when refering to women mostly under 25. But when you add YOUNG you are explicity referring to underage girls. One again you want this traffic why? Do you want the FBI to starting keeping tabs on you?

alan-l

Those motherfuckers also rejected my Nazi rape torture site even tho the people displayed were all of legal age. Well, most of them. Those ARS motherfuckers

gfx3

Still going on about this

I admit it wasn't the smartest thing to do, listing the term lolita, I realise this now and removed it period. Point taken. Call it a newbie mistake, many people admitted in this thread they also made that mistake in the past and took care of it. I have been in this business for 3 months now, call it my first mistake.

Term young girl, young chick etc...

pinkworld.com todays page january 26:

line 11: Movies of a pretty young blonde stuffed by two big cocks

line 21: Movies of a young little tramp drilled by a big monster cock

line 22: Movies of a hot young girl getting fucked and facialed

line 23: Movies of a young chick big with natural breasts giving a handjob

line 30: Movies of a young shy girl getting her cameltoe pussy banged

So give it a break, one could keep going on about this. Pinkworld is an example to me or should be for any tgp owner. Let's see how you do if you have to keep coming up describing the same thing over and over.

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wyldblyss

Visa will not approve sites that have certain terms on them. Sponsors will then not approve webmasters that promote them that use such terms either. Call it "variety" or whatever the hell else you want, you are still going after the people looking for underage pron by using those terms and a lot of sponsors will deny you if you use them. I don't blame them, not in this day and age.

GatorB

Lines 11, 21, and 23 do not necessarily refer to young GIRLS. A 20 year old can be considered a "young" blonde or tramp or chick. A 40 year old can be a blonde, tramp or chick, but never a GIRL let alone a YOUNG one. As far as the others to well write Pinkworld and tell them what you see or report them to their sponsors.