MetaMan

i was on the plane back from denver when i heard the good news, HAHAHAHA we are in people!

question to the easteners, is it a good or a bad thing that you will have to pay more for people who do not work?

Maxy

ouchies...

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it was haha suprising but not hahahahahaha suprising..

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MetaMan

arent you from edmonton?

MetaMan

alberta 100% conservative, and to think the entire country is coming here, tides seem to be turning.

FlyingIguana

you make it sound like conservatives never won an election before...

MetaMan

to me this isnt the PC, this is more reform. and harper is from alberta, its a big difference to alot of people out here to have a Reform born party win the election.

alot out here had the feeling that our vote never would count, but now it seems we are treading some water at least.

KateGround

mother fucking fuck. conservatives are so laame

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No majority, so all isn't lost

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FlyingIguana

its still conservative. votes always count, its just usually over by the time it gets to manitoba.

too bad you guys out there didn't set the conservatives up with a better candidate

MetaMan

im not saying i love harper, just for us its a big deal, first time in a longtime or ever that it feels like we have been hard, alberta got 100% conservative votes in, it makes me feel like this province still has the same goals and cares about its future.

stev0

I'm from Calgary and I voted liberal... I don't like conservative viewpoints on alot of issues (kyoto, gay rights, abortion, etc...), but financially it should benifit us here. As long as Harper doesn't go all hi ho christian soldier, though he probably will.

JFK

you need to give them a chance The Liberals got way too arrogant, they think its their god given right to govern

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MetaMan

how on earth can you vote liberal in Calgary? if you do not like any of the ridings then vote green party.

how can you on earth not like Harpers views but like Martins, i for one do not enjoy paying taxes up the ying yang for equaliztion payments, i guess you like all of our tax money going to easteners?

its your vote though.

stev0

better cantidate? lol... stockwell day?
seems all of the conservatives are all crazy born again christians... we need someone that will completley seperate church and state. Hell, just abolish the church for all I care, it has no place in the civilized world.

FlyingIguana

maybe they should bus cape bretoners to calgary, then they won't need as much equilization payments

FlyingIguana

there's gotta be someone, if harper's the best the conservatives can come up with that party is in trouble

MetaMan

that was a dam good one, i am laughing my ass off! hehe

stev0

They're Canadian's too... and our taxes really aren't that high. We're lucky that we've in the middle of a booming oil economy right now, but it's their country too.

I don't have a huge problem with equalization payments, except for those fuckers in Quebec that do nothing but complain while we throw billions of dollars at them every year. The fishing industry in the east took a big blow and they need it, and softwood lumber kind of fucked over BC's profit. More than half of the entire countries equalization payments go to Quebec though, I dont get it...

MetaMan

totally agree here also, give me 5 years and i am running.

MetaMan

were you born in Alberta? / how long have you lived here?

stev0

Yup... lived in Calgary all my life (23 years). Actually, I live in Stephen Harpers riding, haha. He shops at the Glenmore Landing safeway about a 5 minute walk from me.

MetaMan

haha nice nice! this will be better days for alberta and more boom to come, i do not 100% like harper, but now i feel canada has a leader that will somewhat force the country to group together for economic gain everywhere.

handouts are never a good thing, they stop people from having drive and reaching potential.

stev0

Yup... only time will tell, gotta give them a chance I guess. I'm hoping Harper does something to cause the Canadian dollar to fall, better for tourism and exports, plus makes my pay cheque alot nicer ;)

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Manowar

not really suprising

Yngwie

Harper is NOT from Alberta. He was born and raised in Toronto. He went to Alberta for a job in the oil and gas industry in his 20's and also went to school there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper

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messiah1

Lol Canadian conservatives are to the left of democrats in America .

Excerpts from the victorious Canadian Conservative Party's platform:

Reform the financing of federal political parties
Under the Liberals, money and influence have played far too large a role in Canadian politics. During the sponsorship inquiry, Canadians learned of envelopes full of cash being used to fund Liberal Party campaigns, and of money from government contracts being funnelled back to the Liberals. The "pay to play" years in Liberal Ottawa must come to an end.

Toughen the Lobbyists Registration Act
Under the Liberals, lobbying government - often by friends and associates of Paul Martin and other Liberal ministers - has become a multi-million dollar industry. Senior Liberals move freely back and forth between elected and non-elected government posts and the world of lobbying. Liberal lobbyists have accepted success or contingency fee arrangements where they don't get paid unless they deliver the policy change their clients want.

Make qualified government appointments
The Liberals have repeatedly appointed insiders, in some cases completely unqualified, to important public offices. Liberal candidates and MPs have received appointments as heads of Crown corporations, board members, and ambassadors. Liberal staffers, including some of those responsible for the sponsorship program, have worked their way into key positions in the public service.

Clean up the procurement of government contracts
Under the Liberal government, abuse of the government contracting process has become commonplace. Former Liberal cabinet minister Art Eggleton, for example, awarded an untendered contract to a former girlfriend. He was later appointed to the Senate by Paul Martin.

Provide real protection for whistleblowers
There have been many examples over the years of reprisals against government whistleblowers, including public servants who helped reveal the sponsorship scandal, and others who exposed waste and abuse in the Department of Foreign Affairs.

Strengthen Access to Information legislation
The Liberal government has consistently rejected attempts to provide Canadians with better access to government information.

Creating jobs and growing Canada's economy
While Liberals have been enriching themselves through their culture of entitlement, many Canadians - especially those who work in the manufacturing sector - have been suffering. Twelve years of empty Liberal promises on prosperity, productivity, and growth have done nothing to help Canadian businesses face increased competition from around the world.

Limit growth of spending on grants and contributions and in government departments and agencies
During the last five years, federal government departmental spending has grown to an unacceptable level. Far too much taxpayers' money is absorbed by the Ottawa bureaucracy or spent on ineffective or inefficient programs.

Forestry
A Conservative government will demand that the U.S. government play by the rules on softwood lumber. The U.S. must abide by the NAFTA ruling on softwood lumber, repeal the Byrd Amendment, and return the more than $5 billion in illegal softwood lumber tariffs to Canadian producers.

Invest in effective gun control
A Conservative government will maintain the existing handgun registry and bans on all currently prohibited weapons. A certification system requiring a background check and safety training for all those wishing to acquire and use firearms legally.

Securing our borders
Terrorist attacks, natural disasters, and outbreaks of disease world-wide have focused the spotlight squarely on the Liberal government's inaction regarding terrorist and other threats here at home. Four years of inaction since September 11, 2001, have left the federal government ill-prepared to protect Canada's national security. The March 2004 report by the Auditor General criticized the government for failing to create an integrated security system. The March 2004 report of a bipartisan Senate committee concluded Canada was "unready" to respond to a terrorist attack. Even the government's annual National Security Policy review released in April 2005 identified 12 government priorities that have still not been improved or addressed.

Security for seniors
The Liberal track record for Canadian seniors is a sad story of unfair taxation, poor government services, and now an inexcusable policy blunder that has destroyed the retirement savings of Canadians invested in income trusts. It is time for a government that respects those who have spent their lives raising families, saving for their retirement, and building this country.A Conservative government will: Confirm its commitment to the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) and Old Age Security (OAS) as well as the Guaranteed Income Supplement (GIS) as fundamental guarantees of income security in retirement years.

Fight congestion through public transit
Improved public transit usage will help both reduce traffic congestion in our urban centres and reduce carbon dioxide and other emissions. Canadians must be encouraged to choose transit by making this option more financially attractive.

A cleaner, healthier environment
For all the Liberal talk about the environment, they have done nothing to clean up the environment here in Canada. They sign ambitious international treaties and send money to foreign governments for hot air credits, but can't seem to get anything done to help people here at home. A Conservative government will implement a "made-in-Canada" plan focused on ensuring future generations enjoy clean air, clean water, clean land, and clean energy here in Canada. A Conservative government will develop a Clean Air Act to legislate the reduction of smog-causing pollutants such as Nitrogen Oxides (NOx), Sulphur Dioxide (SO2), and particulate matter. Address the issue of greenhouse gas emissions, such as carbon dioxide (CO2), with a made-in-Canada plan, emphasising new technologies, developed in concert with the provinces and in coordination with other major industrial countries.

Promoting arts, culture, and competitive sport
Canada is a nation of great artists and athletes. Arts, culture, and sport all make essential contributions to our national identity. A Conservative government will: Establish a Francophone Secretariat within the Department of Canadian Heritage. Language is an integral part of culture and heritage and should form the basis of decision-making for the Francophone cultural and artistic community. Ensure that the CBC and Radio-Canada continue to perform their vital role as national public service broadcasters. Preserve the role of the National Film Board, the Canada Council, and other federal arts and culture agencies.

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President Harper is only from the west when its convenient...

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BlackCrayon

there are many other factors besides money. i don't like their religious views, views on abortion, gay rights, privatization of government funded programs such as health care, lcbo, etc. the conservatives are basically the views of the old and religious. the liberals were much more forward thinking and made canada look more free than the US.

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NoCarrier

Well, for one thing, STFU.

Since the 60's, canadians invested 60 billion dollars for your oil industries in Alberta. And Quebec paid 25% of that. Instead of being drunk all day long, go drink some of your oil, you might need it to see the whole picture.

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My friend, just when I thought I could have no greater respect for you.....

Nicely posted.

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Wiggles

its a minority government, not much to brag about after the 9 million fuck ups the liberals have had, and after how many years of straight liberal government. i bet next election the conservatives will come close to losing party status again like after mulroney.

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MetaMan

how else did you expect anyone to ever get in that even remotley supports the west?

obviously our votes do not matter, i would have rather seen the Blocs in then the liberals.

ElvisManson

edit (guess I should read the whole thread.)

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Good Luck, Having a Minority Government gets nothing done

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BlackCrayon

you guys need to fuck more to populate the praries i guess. its not that your votes don't matter, its just that whoever has the most population has the most say. majority rules and all that.

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MetaMan

to us its a start, people in the east have no idea what it is like to live in alberta, at least your vote counts, as stated before the election is usually over before it even gets here.

its nothing HUGE, but at least its a start, i am optimistic in the changes the new gov't can bring, i want Canada to be a "whole" nation, and i am hoping that the conservatives will be able to achieve this.

wyldblyss

Now that is a whole lot of talk about a whole lot of nothing. I want to hear lower taxes, better fiscal spending, more accessible childcare, changes to our health care system so that waits are not so long as people stop dying while they wait in line.
I want to hear less about catering to the damn fracophones which it appears that is all we friggen do...is spending billions on having everything duplicated in french not enough for them? Spend the money instead on things that support our entire population and all of our culture, not just the french side which is a minority.
Get rid of that !@#%$!@#%$!@#$ GST that sucks us dry....we pay 15% sales tax here and you want to spur the economy....lower the friggen tax.

Fix the damn post office. I want to know why it costs me twice as much as an American to mail a letter and takes 4 times as long to reach its destination. Why does a letter often take a week to go 3 hours away? Why can the U.S. mail system deliver a letter from one side of their country to another in 2 days at a fraction of the price?

Truth be told all governments are the same, they talk a lot of bullshit and do nothing. Half the time I don't even know who our Prime Minster is because nothig changes..except the face of some dumb old man blowing wind.

26MLR

and I have been thinking my whole life that nobody cared about Canada... I guess it's just MOST people...

SilentKnight

Originally from Red Deer, but livin' in Niagara these days.

I voted Green this time around. I didn't want to see Harper wind up with a majority win...glad he didn't.

It'll be good to see the west represented for a change, though. Its been long overdue. And hopefully with Harper being raised in the Toronto area, T.O. will finally get its share.

IMO - last night's election outcome was probably the best we could have hoped for. Harper gets just enough leash to hopefully follow through on some promises (priority one should be passing the accountability legislation).

seeric

i'm not canadian but conservative and porn sounds like oil and water.

facialfreak

No ... but the last TWO conservative Prime Ministers (equivolent to President) in Canada were both removed from office with votes of non confidence ...

Kim Cambell did not even last 2 months, and Joe Clark lasted maybe 6 ...

But it's a different era now, we'll have to see what happens ..

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MetaMan

this isnt even the PC anymore, imo its a way different party. Reform saved PC from drowning out, not the other way around.

Mr.Ocean

Well there goes my company. Shit time to move.

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Dollarmansteve

ya, thats how 100% of minority governments come to and end. What's your point? You make it sound like they were impeached or something.

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nico-t

hm as far as i know the president of the US is also conservative and destroyed the economy, with billions of debt and a low dollar.. but yea conservatives are good for economies

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Shows what you know...

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