Sex.com only worth $14M? - GoFuckYourself.com

milambur · 01-20-2006, 07:22 AM

I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?

Gunni · 01-20-2006, 07:26 AM

I would've thought it was worth more

djroof · 01-20-2006, 07:29 AM

nice price...

polish_aristocrat · 01-20-2006, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milambur

I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?

are you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?

EroticySteve · 01-20-2006, 07:32 AM

I was amazed that it sold for that much. I say congratulations to Kremen.

I personally don't buy into a domain having value in and of itself. Sure, I understand the value of a good domain for brand recognition and type in/natural traffic but come on.

Again, congrats to Kremen. Take the money and enjoy it, it's been a long, hard uphill battle for him for quite a few years.

woj · 01-20-2006, 07:33 AM

first 2 replies are great

anyway, congrats to all the winners

Alphonso · 01-20-2006, 07:34 AM

14 million is fair price

fraggle · 01-20-2006, 07:38 AM

guess its worth what you think you can make form it

id be happy having gotten 14 for a domain name for sure

milambur · 01-20-2006, 07:50 AM

Basic Example:
$2M Down
$12M at 5%

Intrest = $600K

if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year

So roughly $130K return a year

130K/2M = 0.065

ROI 6.5%

And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.

slapass · 01-20-2006, 08:21 AM

70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.

Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.

woj · 01-20-2006, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milambur

Basic Example:
$2M Down
$12M at 5%

Intrest = $600K

if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year

So roughly $130K return a year

130K/2M = 0.065

ROI 6.5%

And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.

One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.

vod · 01-20-2006, 08:34 AM

I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..

take the money and run...

sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.

advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...

good luck to the new ownership ;-)

milambur · 01-20-2006, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.

ALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.

polish_aristocrat · 01-20-2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.

Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.

IMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.

But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol

anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain

14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...

and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for it

Gottis · 01-20-2006, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

are you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?

are you kidding, look at the new site - they will make it back in ONE MONTH

Daruma · 01-20-2006, 08:46 AM

14 mil now is good... 2 years ago maybe 20 or 25 mil

milambur · 01-20-2006, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

IMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.

But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol

anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain

14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...

and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for it

$40K a day will probably need some serious work. If you have a good model then $10K a day after a year might be quite possible without too much work. $10K a day give an ROI of 150% in my previous calculation.....

Now as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?

Not getting a loan would make them really bad investors.

DirtyProfits · 01-20-2006, 09:06 AM

Sex.com ppc traffic has always sucked for me in the past so I think $14 million is just a good price.
The domain has such a HUGE potential to be successful. If I'd own it I would try some kind of video mega site like VideosZ and with enough advertising it will do very well.

Bama · 01-20-2006, 10:13 AM

Sex.com was most profitable when it was just a banner farm and receiving most of it's traffic from the 270K type-ins/day

10K-50K per banner (buttons were the cheapest to buy) per month and you guys remember how many banners were on the page!

axelcat · 01-20-2006, 11:13 AM

I think it's worth more

chipmunk · 01-20-2006, 11:21 AM

Bottom line is....
the new owner and Gary got what they each wanted! It was a nice deal all around!
Best of luck to both parties involved...

-=Chipmunk=-

kmanrox · 01-20-2006, 11:22 AM

id let him fuck my ass for 14 mil

hahaha just kidding u know i'd do it for free!

DaddyHalbucks · 01-20-2006, 11:31 AM

I think it was a good buy at $14 million.

shuki · 01-20-2006, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milambur

ALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.

If you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.

The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......

RayBonga · 01-20-2006, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.

Exactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.

shuki · 01-20-2006, 11:45 AM

Any money lenders in here?

I can pay up to 30% on your money and you have my domains as collateral.

polish_aristocrat · 01-21-2006, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milambur

Now as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?

IMO domains are definitely more risky than real estate

gangbangjoe · 01-21-2006, 09:28 AM

lol

tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?

i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...

the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money

TheDoc · 01-21-2006, 09:30 AM

It's sad it only went for $14 million. Sad knowing that in the hands of the correct person it's going to be worth tons more, but while in the hands of an ...... well it didn't do so good.

sfera · 01-21-2006, 09:34 AM

id of sold it for that and retired

DamageX · 01-21-2006, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..

take the money and run...

sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.

advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...

good luck to the new ownership ;-)

Kremen definitely ran that domain into the ground. The smartest move he ever did was selling it for $14M.

Validus · 01-21-2006, 09:36 AM

Great domain... I would have thought it would be worth more as well...

maxjohan · 01-21-2006, 09:41 AM

Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...

If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".

It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.

Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy

BSleazy · 01-21-2006, 09:42 AM

Whoever runs thebestporn.com is gonna make a fortune.

polish_aristocrat · 01-21-2006, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan

If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site...

slapass · 01-21-2006, 10:49 AM

well now we know what they are making per day and it looks a lot better purchase wise.

milambur · 01-21-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuki

If you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.

The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......

If you have a solid biz system and a proven track record any bank will lend you that money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

Exactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.

6.5% is shitty, but it is the lowest I figured I would make without any real work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

IMO domains are definitely more risky than real estate

Yes, that is why you get a higher return, but it is the same principles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

lol
tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?
i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...
the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money

Depends on ones goals in life I guess, but for me $14M is not enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan

If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".

Jag hoppas att du skämtar.

Violetta · 01-21-2006, 11:47 AM

If I'd get 14 mill for it, I'd sell! Leave the biz and move to bahamas!

detoxed · 01-21-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan

Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...

If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".

It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.

Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy

yep.. and if i owned mortgage.com i'd turn it into a ringtone site!

"funniest mortgage ringtones ever at mortgage.com"

perfect marketing

microdotman · 01-22-2006, 08:00 PM

You guys are too focused on the short term traffic and cash flow. The play here is that this is and will remain the worlds number one adult Internet brand. And if you see the site text the new business model is exposed which Im sure will be rather profitable once complete.

So this site will end up worth an incredible mint, irrespective of the fact that the domain itself was a bargain, if you can even believe the reports at all which I doubt.

Then one day after massive dollars are turned the site will be resold and the owners take the capital gain.

Walla

tony286 · 01-22-2006, 08:07 PM

i think he was smart the tide is changing.

01-20-2006, 07:22 AM	#1
milambur Mainstream since 2010 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,327	Sex.com only worth $14M? I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think? __________________ Alea iacta est

01-20-2006, 07:32 AM	#5
EroticySteve Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 4,365	I was amazed that it sold for that much. I say congratulations to Kremen. I personally don't buy into a domain having value in and of itself. Sure, I understand the value of a good domain for brand recognition and type in/natural traffic but come on. Again, congrats to Kremen. Take the money and enjoy it, it's been a long, hard uphill battle for him for quite a few years. __________________ You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that. Our affiliates earn up to $3/email or $107/sale email steve <at> eroticy.com - icq 290153464

01-20-2006, 07:33 AM	#6
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01-20-2006, 07:34 AM	#7
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01-20-2006, 07:38 AM	#8
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01-20-2006, 07:26 AM	#2
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	I would've thought it was worth more

01-20-2006, 07:29 AM	#3
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,405	nice price...

01-20-2006, 07:50 AM	#9
milambur Mainstream since 2010 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,327	Basic Example: $2M Down $12M at 5% Intrest = $600K if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year So roughly $130K return a year 130K/2M = 0.065 ROI 6.5% And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself. __________________ Alea iacta est

01-20-2006, 08:21 AM	#10
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate. Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.

01-20-2006, 08:34 AM	#12
vod Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,510	I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms.. take the money and run... sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done. advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc... good luck to the new ownership ;-) __________________ Adult Merchant Account

01-20-2006, 08:46 AM	#16
Daruma Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PandaLand™ Posts: 3,494	14 mil now is good... 2 years ago maybe 20 or 25 mil __________________ RIP TD

01-20-2006, 09:06 AM	#18
DirtyProfits Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,885	Sex.com ppc traffic has always sucked for me in the past so I think $14 million is just a good price. The domain has such a HUGE potential to be successful. If I'd own it I would try some kind of video mega site like VideosZ and with enough advertising it will do very well.

01-20-2006, 10:13 AM	#19
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	Sex.com was most profitable when it was just a banner farm and receiving most of it's traffic from the 270K type-ins/day 10K-50K per banner (buttons were the cheapest to buy) per month and you guys remember how many banners were on the page!

01-20-2006, 11:13 AM	#20
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	I think it's worth more

01-20-2006, 11:21 AM	#21
chipmunk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,039	Bottom line is.... the new owner and Gary got what they each wanted! It was a nice deal all around! Best of luck to both parties involved... -=Chipmunk=- __________________ Matthew "Chipmunk" Sclier Skype: ChipmunkLF AvenueLink.com Personal Loan Offers & Data Management

01-20-2006, 11:22 AM	#22
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	id let him fuck my ass for 14 mil hahaha just kidding u know i'd do it for free! __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

01-20-2006, 11:31 AM	#23
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	I think it was a good buy at $14 million. __________________ Boner Money

01-20-2006, 11:45 AM	#26
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01-21-2006, 09:28 AM	#28
gangbangjoe Ronin Join Date: May 2004 Location: Live by the code Die by the code Posts: 17,693	lol tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ? i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun... the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money __________________ NichePay - $30 on all trials - Killer Ratios .................................................. Female Ejaculation - Hairy - Shemale Puffy Nipples - Huge Clits - And More! ..................................................

01-21-2006, 09:30 AM	#29
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	It's sad it only went for $14 million. Sad knowing that in the hands of the correct person it's going to be worth tons more, but while in the hands of an ...... well it didn't do so good. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

01-21-2006, 09:34 AM	#30
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	id of sold it for that and retired

01-21-2006, 09:36 AM	#32
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	Great domain... I would have thought it would be worth more as well...

01-21-2006, 09:41 AM	#33
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell... If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com". It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work. Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls... Last edited by maxjohan; 01-21-2006 at 09:43 AM..

01-21-2006, 09:42 AM	#34
BSleazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,721	Whoever runs thebestporn.com is gonna make a fortune. __________________ icq 156131086

01-21-2006, 10:49 AM	#36
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	well now we know what they are making per day and it looks a lot better purchase wise.

01-21-2006, 11:47 AM	#38
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	If I'd get 14 mill for it, I'd sell! Leave the biz and move to bahamas! __________________ M&A Queen

01-22-2006, 08:00 PM	#40
microdotman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: US Posts: 18	worth a lot more You guys are too focused on the short term traffic and cash flow. The play here is that this is and will remain the worlds number one adult Internet brand. And if you see the site text the new business model is exposed which Im sure will be rather profitable once complete. So this site will end up worth an incredible mint, irrespective of the fact that the domain itself was a bargain, if you can even believe the reports at all which I doubt. Then one day after massive dollars are turned the site will be resold and the owners take the capital gain. Walla

01-22-2006, 08:07 PM	#41
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	i think he was smart the tide is changing.