Each and every cam program has some certain area of weakness.



well, except for WebcamCash

when an affiliate has to make tools for the sponsor then
no doubt that sponsor has reached its maximum.
will I don't know your connection with clickcash here but
you're obviously blind

you are right, who am i to know anything about this. You have it all figured out. You are the guy making 20K+ a week, and I am making nothing. I just talk for the sake of talking... i don't know nothing, I am just posting here inbetween my McDonalds shifts. I'm just a surfer who thinks he knows it all, you are the man making all the money, and obviously knows what he is talking about. how did i ever doubt you. I must be blind.

it's the sheep and clueless like you that are going to start to give me an attitude on here. For now on if you want to try to "tell me something" and that I am wrong, either have the sales each week to back it up or shut the fuck up. If you don't make more then 10K a week then don't talk to me like you are trying to clue me in on something.

will you are a funny guy.

I'll take the idiot remarks as a compliment, I do good business.

if you were a little less tempermental perhaps more would be willing to take a shot at "TCC." hell maybe even anti-CC people like myself.

webcams.com pays well, converts well, and I'm paid every monday.

a question(s), what do you do with the traffic that doesn't convert on ifriends? do you do still push ifriends to the traffic leaving?

You're not blind, your just a shill for iFriends which makes anything you have to say about them suspect. We all know that iFriends CS sucks, it's practically non-existent. They don't supply "much" for affiliate. They claim to have the most models, but most models have 5-10 accounts on there so you can't really tell. And there's been other threads on here about people who have done tests to show that iFriends shaves (not to mention other tests people have done and talked about but not posted, including other WMs signing up thru referal links). If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. Nothing you say can change any of that. Why don't you stick to your own threads to suck in the newbs.

oh so just because you make 10k a week you're right and I'm sheep.
Lol, yea I see the logic in that.

LOL dude do you ever read anything before posting? This seems to be a recurring pattern.

how hard is it for them to accept it by email? mail and fax are so old school, you can call me a bitch all you want everyone on here who actually knows me knows what volume of signups I'm sending. When I have programs practically begging me to put up their ads I'm not gonna bend over backwards to promote clickcash. To be honest I dont even trust them, why dont they have any icq contacts? even emailing them is a lost cause.

I don´t intend to take sides here, and Dickmans Design doesn´t do any business related to webcams, nor we have big webcam clients, but I wanna say that Will76, you are an intelligent guy - interesting opinions / line of thought. I dont really care if Ifriends is good, cams.com is good, webcams.com is good or anything - just want to say you write stuff that makes sense. Good read!

Bruno Dickman :thumbsup

well you are really making a name for yourself.. congratulatons buddy :)

http://www.webcams.com/affiliate/

As far as trying to get people to join TCC, thats not why I am here. Go look at the signup page on my site, it is invitation only. I pretty much hand select the people I want to work with and I don't have the time for noobs, which is the majority of the people who chime in on this site anyway.

here are my comments to your early post with a little less sarcasim. You claim that clickcash was a great program, now payouts are lower, etc. What am I a freak of nature ? How can what you say be true if I keep making more and more money with ClickCash. Last year, 2005 was my best year yet with them, but you say they have sucked since 2002... How can this be? Could it be possible that I am doing something right and maybe you are doing something wrong, and it has nothing to do with clickcash? please educate me, how can i be doing so damn well with a program that you say is trucking backwards. I generated over 1.5 million is sales in 2005 from my own traffic with clickcash, and you have the nerve to tell me I am truckin backwards....

Find one post where i argued that clickcash had great or even good customer service. Find another post where I said they supply a lot of tools to webmasters. I am not disputing that.

But person after person continue to chime in here and they don't know jack shit about what they are talking about. ifriends does have more models, there is a function called "show unique names mode." on the main page of the site. There are currently 3754 live chat sessions, when I enable unique names it shows 1932. That means that there are 1932 models on ifriends as of right now doing a combined 3754 live rooms. Go find me a cam site that has more then 1932 models live, even the sites where they all share the same chathost platform can not touch this. Ifriends DOES have the most models on and this is easy to prove.

i don't want to change your mind, you are an idiot. I do want other people who happen to read this thread see the truth. I am not a shill. I have been advertising clickcash for over 5 years and I make 7 figures from them every year. How many other people can say that about the affiliates they send their traffic to? Honestly, the last thing i want to do is get a bunch of newbies to email asking me how can i help them get more traffic, etc.. I don't have time for that shit, so your assumption that, this is why I am here posting is dead wrong. Like i said earlier I hand select who i work with. I am here posting in this thread (which i might fucking add was titled " which webcam sites convert the best" ) to correct idiots like you from the bullshit you post about clickcash. So you keep getting your information for "other threads here" which are more people like you posting about shit they know nothing about, I will keep informing people of the truth when it comes to clickcash, and if you don't like it you can keep replying making yourself look like an idiot.

lol believe me, it is very apparent you don't see the logic. let me try to make this simple for you to understand. If you make money, you must know what you are doing/talking about. If you don't make money then it is pretty obvoius that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don;t make money but you think you know more then someone who makes 100x more then you, then you are the person that is blind.... deaf... and dumb.

BTW, I make a lot more then that a week.

If you do the volume you say you do then it baffles me that you would let a fax vs. email of the webmaster agreement stop you from making more income.

Seriously, maybe it is not hard for them to accept email, but fax/mail is the way their program is setup. If your determining factor of using them or not is because of the way they accept the webmaster agreement then I don't think that is too bright on your part. I wouldn't even consider that as an issue muchless a deteriming factor. I am worried about things like, how much I get paid and receiving checks, etc...

I expect the noobs here to argue about insignificant shit like having to fax it, but I am surprised that someone who does well for themself would even see this as an issue to using a company and making themselves more money.

if they wanted me to sign it with green cryon and mail it on a monday in a yellow envelope I wouldn't careless. I am thankfull to be working with them and making a lot of money, a lot more then i ever made from any other company. I am even more thankfull that I didn't let something VERY insignificant prevent me from joining them in the first place.

thank you. The last thing I want to sound like is a "know-it-all". But, when you have people who are lucky to pay their rent money come on here and try to tell me about a company (clickcash) that they have never tried how it works and doesn't work, etc.... I have no choice but to tell them to stfu.

GFY is has a ton of people who think they know it all but they don't make shit. I really wish people would address themselves first before trying to jump into a conversation. " Jon here, 25,000 post count, i make $40 a week and have been on GFY for 5 years..... i just want to say you are blind, you don't know anything." :1orglaugh We all know who some of the more successful people here are (very short list), and then there is everyone else with a few mixed in that stay low key.

I would just love to know WHO is giving me advice or telling me I am wrong. If it was coming from someone who is successful, I would listen a lot closer and give them the benefit of the doubt and think about what they are saying. I know I don't know it all and I am always open to listening to those who are more successful then me, hell i encourage their feedback.

Don't you have more threads to go start and replies to make blowing your company?



So what is your relation to webcams.com? Do you own the company, are you a rep, or just an office employee? Or are you content? do you show off in the guys rooms?

Please let us know your affiliation to the company.

ok, i'll be mature. I take back the statement. i'd rather focus on money than sarcastic banter.

I'm sure there are ways to still make money with CC. I'm glad you found a niche or way of doing so that is highly profitable.

I simply can't convert CC to my expectations and right now Webcams.com meets MY demands.

This is nice.... I much prefer talking to people like this as well.

Here is my thoughts on what you posted. Advertising is not that easy. Most people find one way to advertise that works and that is all they do, they never change anything or do anything differently. First of all I applaud them for finding something that works, it is not easy to do and takes a lot of hard work to profect a traffic source and turn it into money. What most people don't realize is that there are several SEVERAL ways to make money online that others have tried and failed at. It takes a person that can do it a little different that makes them money from it, being a little creative and thinking out of the box. It also might take you 20 attempts at something before you get it right too.

Now where most of these people fail, is because once they find something that works they run it into the ground and switch a lot of sponsors along the way. If you doing good at something people will sooner or later catch on and copy you. So you need to stay one step a head of them and always reinventing yourself and doing it better. When most people who keep doing the same thing (using the same page, ads, same approach, etc...) start to decline in sales they blame it on the affiiate company. So they switch to something new (which usually gives them something new, new promos, new signup page, etc) and they *usually* see a spike in sales and think the new sponsor is doing better. Where as all along the orginal one might have been the best if they changed up the way they were advertising them. Sooner or later the new sponsor will decline and they will keep jumping ship and they never realize it is them and not the company.

I could help you make 3x more money then you are making from webcams.com right now by switching back to clickcash. It's not the sponsor to blame. Clickcash by far pays the best of any company out there, by using another company you are leaving money on the table.

I've been promoting iFriends since 2001. They used to be my top sponsor, but then their conversion rates droped as everyone else started promoting them and they increased their payouts. Hell, I had some of the huge tgps "stealing" my ads because they were doing so well for me. In fact, a lot of the TGPs in my "niches" have "borrowed" my techinques of promoting iFriends for themselves. All these "iframe" ads people are doing showing who's live etc., I was doing in 2001 with a custom script pulling who was live from the iFriends pages. When the surfer clicked on their image, they were sent straight to a page that showed who was live which included the girl they were interested in. Still far better than a lot of the current iframe ads. I still promote them and they're still my best webcam sponsor but that's not a fair comparision since I haven't spent as much time on marketing material for the other ones yet. So please, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I just focus on other sponsors and use iFriends as a type of "upsell".

The reason "your" money etc. keeps going up is because
A. you focus primarily on promoting them, maybe even them exclusively which means you are constantly adding more and more promotions for them thus garnering more and more traffic that will buy.
B. You're also getting people to sign up under you and as you yourself said, you're cherry picking who you take on so that you know they'll make you money.
C. And quite frankly, if you're as big a player with them as you say you are, you're going to be getting special treatment that other smaller affiliates won't get. i.e. in return for you shilling for them.

I've run my own "tests" my friend. And after having dozens of other WMs signup under me and very few of them actually show up, it becomes pretty clear what's going on.

Bottom line is this. Yes, I hold my nose as I make more money from clickcash than other cam programs. But when the day comes that I make more money from someone else (and pussycash is slowly getting up there), I'll be jumping ship as I don't want to do business with a company that shows disdain for their affiliates and who is shady as I have proven to my own satisfaction. You'll never see me argue with you that you can make a lot of money with clickcash, but I'm not going to say they're the best webcam sponsor. The best sponsor is more than just how much money you can make with them. There's morals, ethics and a "partnership" aspect to it as well.

So you can go on and on about how you make 7 figures, blah blah blah and spouting off your version of the "truth". The rest of us will do the same.

See my pervious post above (to nadanada) why your sales with them have dropped off.

My reply to you not knowing what you are talking about was in reagrds to the post you made. Which is summarized as: I am a shill and what I post doesn't mean anything because I am here to recruit noobs, ifriends doesn't have the most models on live, and for me to stay in my own threads. All of that is 100% incorrect so my reply to you was accurate.

Why do i do good with them? You are correct I focus all of my time on the company that makes me the most money. Seems logical enough, but most people think it is smarter to push 5 - 10 sponsors. FYI, as previously stated, I make 5% of my income from affiliate sales. It's not like I am on here making up shit to get people to signup. My credability is worth more then the 5% I make. I wouldn't sell something I didn't believe in and that I didn't know was proven the best to me. There is way too many people on here trying to sell something they can't even make money from, because they want the easy affiliate money. ClickCash doesn't pay me or give me special treatment to "shill" them. If they give me a little more special treatment then most it is because I make them more money then most.

For the shaving, you feel satisfied from your testing blah blah blah etc... that fine. But either you are a "moral" person or you in it for the money. Can't have it both ways. To say you are holding you nose and sticking it out with them long enough till you make more money with someone else is bullshit. Either their money is good enough for you or not.

My conversion rates dropped because of competition AND whenever there was a payout change. Conversions began to go up again about a year or so ago (as clickcash continued it's cleanup of people commiting fraud and people started dropping them to promote other webcam programs) but they've never reached the same level again. It's competition and yes, if I got in fresh streams of traffic that could improve.

The thing is, one of the things you never talk about in your posts about how great iFriends is, is the work involved in getting those sales. i.e. If I spend 2 hours a day promoting a different cam site and make as much as spending 4 hours a day promoting iFriends, which is better?

It's not just about the paycheck, it's $/hour. So if the techniques I used for iFriends aren't working as good anymore, but they work great for a new cam site thus requiring less work on my part? Which do you think I'd go with?

Well, about 90% of the time when you post it's purely to "defend" iFriends, basically saying that everyone else is a lier and you're the only one telling the truth about them, and to anyone that doesn't bash them you tell them that you can help them make more money is they signup under you.. well what would you call that?? I'd say a shill whoring for refs.

I never said that. I said that because they can have multiple names, you can't tell. And you can't tell with that filter unless you're an elite member. Since I'm not, I can't see what that listing shows and whether it's truly a unique listing or not.

About 3 months into this business I was ripped off for almost $1k. So I don't really trust any sponsor and I promote several to reduce the risk. Given iFriends history of terming people (and please don't say they were all cheaters cause I know that's not the case), it wouldn't be "logical" for anyone to put all their eggs in the iFriends basket. You however have alleviated that risk my having people sign up under you. And if you've truly been making $1M a year, you're going to have other business/investment ventures and so it's not important to you as it would be to someone else whether they went under or termed you.

That's great, but maybe you should let other people discuss what their experience has been with iFriends as opposed to labeling them as idiots and lieing noobs. Just because you've had a rosy experience with them doesn't mean that everyone else has. I also believe in letting someone know ALL aspects, good and bad about something rather than mislead them with promises of riches.

So if pimpdoggy offered you $5 more than clickcash on a free signup you'd do business with him?

- Competition is only a problem when their ads are better then yours. I doubt that you scratch the surface of hitting online users. For conversion rates, even if they dropped, clickcash's pay rate increases have out paced the loss of signups through any possible saturation. I can make more now with 500 signups then i did 5 years ago with 750 signups... So *I* still make more money, do i care if i convert more or less then i did in 2001 ?

- the way i compare is from ad productivity. I tried several sponors from the same ad spots (same traffic) and compared how much money they made me. I am going to spend the same amount of time generating traffic no matter which company i send it to. I do test from that traffic to see which company does the best. It has nothing to do with by the hour etc...

- a couple easy changes and your techniques may make you more again with clickcash then you are making now with your current sponsor. BUT what you are telling me is that it is too much work for you to do. You would rather chage out a sponsor and keep things the same instead of spending a little extra time to change it up and make a lot more money.

- about 50% I post, it is related to clickcash/ifriends. Why do i defend them? because I believe in them. Believe me, 99% of the time i defend them I wouldn't want to work with the person I am talking to anyway. you ever just believe in something, and want to defend it. I owe my life to clickcash. I have made serious money from them, they have treated me great, and I think ifriends is a great service to boot. They are pioneers of the industry and really have the best camsite out there and best paying affiliate program. They might not have the best CS, might not have a lot of tools in place, and they may be a little strict on the TOS. It is what you make of it, all the important stuff is there for you. Just don't spam/defraud them and you are fine. If you NEED tools and can't make your own, or need to be held by the hand, then no ClickCash is not for you. I am glad they are strict on the TOS, companies that aren't wont last long and if they let other people get away with too much that could affect my income as well.

- I have an ifriends membership and I can see how many are unique and how many have multiple sessions. You can take my word for it or not. What I said above is true, about 3500 session, about 1900 actual models. Less then 2 sessions per model average. Sure some have 5 sessions going, but several only have 1, it averages out.

- about 3 months into this business I was ripped off as well from web800 for about 6K. I've explained this several times before on here so i am giving you the short version. If i make 10% more with ifriends then any other company, why would i send them 25% of my traffic so i could " not have all my eggs in one basket". So i make 8% less each week, so i can be diversified. Instead of doing that i keep all my traffic with them and after 12 weeks I am ahead of the game. If i get terminated I lose what 1, 1.5 weeks of income? If i make 8% less each week I am lossing A LOT more then that each year. Follow the logic? BTW from my understanding if I got terminated I believe I would lose my affiliate income as well, so that wouldn;t help me. I do have other investments going offline, but that is because i choose to re-invest 90% of what i make. Unlike most idiots here who actually make money and spend it on expensive cars and houses and shit. But that really has nothing to do with clickcash.

- I only lable people as idiots and noobs when they say really stupid shit or missinformed shit that can easily be proved. You have never heard me call someone something because they said that ClickCash had bad customer service or a lack of tools, etc. I also call people shit when they talk about clickcash and they have never used them... but they heard.... lol I lover those words, i heard = fact to 90 % of the people on GFY.

- I wouldn't work with pimpdog if he offered me $500 a signup and a BJ. I don't like him. Now, you on the other hand would work with him, well until you got an offer from someone you liked better.

baby jebus cries for my conversion rates this week with them:


Uniques: 1 signup per 848 unique IPs 848:1
Raw Hits: 1 signup per 1833 clicks 1833:1



went from 1:200-1:300 ish to this in a matter of a week...cest la interwebs...





man this is a long winded post session, thought I'd drop in one here with under 1,000 words

:thumbsup




PS: Stacy rocks when you can catch her, Al really needs to clone her though...

what kind of volume/sales are you pushing with them. With any affiliate company you really need to average your sales out of time, you have a good week and you have some bad weeks, it's impossible to have the same each week.

Sorry that baby jebus is crying, you should do better next week.

-less then 200 words -

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Thanks for the vote of confidence, I'm sure it'll shift again...

Just been a horrid last 2 weeks...I think it's just time to freshen some stuff up, trying out a few diff join pages, etc...

will whats with all the insecurity ?
Your long posts and bragging about how much you make shows
insecurity. You should see a doctor.
I won't go to your level and start calling names
but there are people in this thread that make more than you do
(I'm not one of them) which you call noobs and idiots.
The truth is they don't like to brag about what they do
and the fact you don't know who they are shows just how
ignorat you are.
You are becoming clickcash's TurboAngel, do you like this position ?

How about a bit of modesty ?

when you don't know someone, knowing how much they make shows credibility to what they are saying not insecurity, fool.


if the people who make more then me want to give me constructive criticism then i am all ears, but from reading all of your post you are obviously not one of these people. so you can keep your 2 cents to yourself you might need the money to go towards rent or food or something.

I am done replying to you. you are a lost cause.

There was enough constructive criticism in this thread.
You were too busy defending clickcash to notice it.
I even have my doubts for what you make cause by the looks
of your replies the only thing you're good at is insulting people you don't know.

That's bullshit. More competition means there's a higher probability the surfer has already seen an ad for iFriends and signed up before they even hit mine. But you already know this. You alluded to it when you mentioned previously that a lot of people jump from sponsor to sponsor and they see a jump in their sales due to the freshness factor.

So are you finally admiting that clickcash doesn't convert as well as they used to or not?

As you tell everyone when your promoting the greatness of iFriends, the ads need to be tweaked etc. to maximize the returns. So your "test" is flawed since they're biased towards making sales from iFriends and not the other cam sponsors you "tested". You might have made more money from the other cam program if you had spent as much time tweaking and tuning their ads as you have over the years with clickcash. But because you've done so well with clickcash, you've locked yourself into your own little box now.

That's flawed thinking. If you're making more $/hour with a different cam company then you can spend all the extra time generating traffic for that sponsor and make even more money than you would with clickcash.

See above and your flawed thinking. I don't doubt that I could do more to make more with clickcash. I'm far from lazy. But it all comes down to ROI and in this case the I is time.

I think the difference is that you are pretty much 100% iFriends. The majority of us are not. I used to send 100% of my cam traffic to iFriends. But now I don't since I can't trust them. Actually, that's not quite true. I still send 100% of the traffic that was garnered from iFriends promotions to iFriends. New work is being sent to new cam programs. For most of the WMs here, Cams are NOT their business, like me, it's more of an upsell.

So even though you tell others they should put all their eggs in 1 basket, you actualy don't follow that advice yourself?

I won't work with him either. But basically this means all your posting and everything about iFriends is bullshit. Even for you it's not about JUST making money, or doing business with the company that will make you the most money. You won't do business with someone you don't like. And for a lot of people they don't like the iFriends business practices and won't do business with them because of it. Yet everytime someone comes on here and says this and the reasons why, you basically call them an idiot, a lier or whatever.

Actually, if I was doing business with him before I knew what he was like I would continue until I could replace that revenue elsewhere. I get the feeling you wouldn't though because if he had made you a shit load of money you'd stay loyal regardless of whether or not you were being scammed out of some of the money that was due to you.

We can keep this going and going, I just don't have the time. I do have good replies ofcourse but I will just have to keep that information to myself. Keep doing what you are doing, i hope you are satisfied with your income.

bump for will :thumbsup

hey John, what is your relation to webcams.com? are you an owner, rep, or office employee?

Please answer the question, it is the 3rd time it has been asked.

hey will if clickcash is so great why are you the only one who knows it? maybe because you make all kinds of money doing the job they should be doing...good on ya but you gotta admit their support is the worst in the industy, what other program has an affiliate who makes all the banner, geo ads, custom pages ect. these should be provided by clickcash

do you have Geo targetted ads?

you ever think about this... if i had always worked with companies that had lots of tools I would never have been forced to learn to make promos myself, and to really find out what works the best. *Most* affiliate companies don't know what works best. Think about it, the bigger affiliate companies have design guys, and reps (basically). All employees who are employees for a reason. Who do you think knows what works best for an affiliate company, a $12 an hour employee or an affiliate that makes his own tools and gets 50+ signups a day? I am thankful I was forced to learn for myself, If i had been given tools all along i would be using it as a crutch and would be using the same canned shit that everyone else is using, and likely making the same as them. There is no doubt that I do good for two reasons, clickcash pays the most, and I learned to make my own shit that works better then the shit that is offered to everyone else. And by doing it this long I have learned exactly what works the best for clickcash.

well, as much as I hate to admit it, you have a valid point.

with the exception of a few iframes from webcams.com, and a default HSN tour, I've usually constructed my own tours and custom signup pages.

I interpret your views as being "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" which is great, for the product. on the promotion/advertising side, it is an ever changing world. in this business you are constantly on your toes, fixing this, tweaking that, trying this, ditching that. you get the point.

and because of this, you will be hard pressed to convince most webmasters that ifriends with its still 1998ish feel, is a shining star. even I just want to see a little change, to know the people there are still alive. even persiankitty ditched her old ad for a new and improved ifriends iframe!

sponsor supplied tools don't make or break an *experienced* affiliate, but offering a tool like geo targetting (just an example) is fantastic in that it will help any webmaster under a program sell that program.

with a final note, I have a webmaster help site of my own I'm getting closer to launching thats both mainstream and adult built for slackers like me that isn't totally about personal gain but more for promoting honest business, and I wasn't planning on listing clickcash at all under trusted affiliates, but I may consider listing TCC after spending some time checking it out.

I mean jesus fucking christ, someone so god damn passionate about a company THAT IS NOT EVEN HIS OWN and that so many hate AND provides far better tools than a few other sponsors I can think of, has to get at least a little recognition. this last part was sort of a compliment, before you start a rant :thumbsup

anyway, I really think this whole thread turned around from where it should be.

webcams.com is a great program. perhaps john should have titled the thread webcams.com, but I'll vouch for him. hes a great guy, his program is awesome, and you have to understand it is technically still an infant (well in internet years a toddler) with a lot of room to grow.

tear moment..I love you guys :wetkiss

don't worry i wont rant :winkwink: I take your post as a compliment. I only rant when people tell me shit that i know it totally false or they try to make a big deal about nothing (ex. wont use clickcash because you need to mail or fax webmaster agreement, etc..) that shit for some reason bothers me although i shouldn't say anything and just let stupid be, sometimes i can't help myself.

I never speak on behalf of clickcash. I only speak as an affiliate that uses them. Who knows though, maybe clickcash prefers to work with a smaller group of more experienced webmasters instead of a million noobs. we all know the noobs generate 100x more bullshit emails and off the wall questions. By not providing these tools they could be using that as a prequalifier. The noobs don't have tools and the pros install their own geotargeting software, etc... who knows... maybe this is the case, maybe not. But i would have to think they know what they are doing, even if we scratch our heads and can't figure it out sometimes. They can't be making millions a day for like 10 years by chance. :2 cents:

But typical GFY form, the people here know more about clickcash then clickcash, everyone here has it figured out, etc... it is too funny to step back and listen to this shit.

I love clickcash. i send them gifts lol. I am not the typical affilate, obviously, but i owe them so much and have made so much from them that i feel like it is in a way part my company. I would love to be on board with them to help them with stuff, if they ever needed it. I would buy stock in a heart beat.

for geo-targeting, if anyone working with me needs a simply solution check this out: http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/geo-targeting.htm Unlike other affilite programs, my script allows you to place the location any where you want, with your own promos or mine. I also have 3 options available, the correct city(local city according to your ip), a close city (random city with in 300 miles of you), and a random city (pulls any random city). Here is a little free advice for everyone, surfers are catching on to geo-targeting, those of you who show like 8 girls and all 8 are from the surfer's city, LOL they are not falling for that shit anymore. You need to mix it up now, have 1 -2 from their local city, 1 or 2 from a city close, and the rest random, this will sell them every time and convert geo-targeting 100% better. Also this requires no programming on your end, it is simple java script that you place on your site. For those of you who like to steal, it is protected, I have to authorize you to use it.(suggestions/consulting like this is also included in addition to the promos I create for to those of you who work with me.)


BTW... John, what's your position with webcamcash.com :winkwink:

Well, shit - :)