we will have a lot of video content starting at the end of next week or so

fantastic news :) I'll give you guys a shot then

Today must be the LOAD SLOW day because I cant acces codes or promo in the affiliate section.

He said if you are going to go with a PPS program go with something new. I assume this would mean going with the one that can make you more money ? My reply is that I make a lot of money with clickcash, doesn't matter if they are new or old, or if their customer service is the best in the world or not. There is a lot of money to be made there and I, along with several others, are proof of that.


Sorry, just owning the domain name " webcams.com" does not make you reputable. A good domain name is 100% more valuable to the owner of the site then to the affiliate.

Excellent, I really like your program and the promotional tools :thumbsup

yes, we mail our cancelled members who have already joined webcams.com to ifriends pages and we do quite ok with them; no one is saying iFriends is a bad program.. I was just saying call a spade a spade

It makes us reputable from a customer's point of view, and it's easy to remember, which means customers will return. This will be especially beneficial for affiliates who enjoy revshare -- at the end of this month we will have that feature.

Clickcash:

a) Pays in the middle of the following week, not the beginning like they say.. Yes, we get fedex's from them every week and they're usually on Thursday, so what you say about Monday is untrue, and you know this, so why do you say otherwise?

b) Does not give credit for previous members -- everyone knows a lot of people have joined iFriends. We have spoken with Stacy and she has confirmed that they do not pay on previous members

c) Does not give credit for all sales for whatever reason.. we have done numerous tests to this.

I suppose at the end of the day all that really matters is the aggregate revenue that you receive, and if you do best with iFriends, good for you.. but you can't possible argue that the domain name does not help -- it's basic marketing :)

We have fair payouts and a lot of affiliates are more happy with us than other webcam sponsors, iFriends included. High payouts mean nothing when all sales aren't credited and the ratio is not as good.

And we encourage everyone who has not to try Webcams.com. We are an excellent site with excellent support to help you.

Id like to hear more about clickcash not paying for all members. I send a ton of traffic there and noticed huge swings in signups, I always had a feeling they didnt have their tracking together. Meh I still made more money then with any other cam program, so im with will on this one. However I would like to know I am getting credit for all my sales.

Clickcash apparently doesnt care about their small-med sized affiliates though, their support times are highly inexcusable. I will still send my cam traffic to them however.

If / when you get a % deal offered to your affiliates then yes, your domain name being easy to remember will help your affiliates too. But you don't have that in place now, and we are talking about now, not "what if''s" and " next weeks" right ?

You can do some searchs on previous post by me and see why I feel percentage deals are not nearly as good as pay per the free signup.

Good domain does not eual credibility. but you can keep thinking that if you like it is your right. Credibility is earned by good customer experiences and years of doing good business.

ClickCash
A: i know checks are "cut" on a monday and thought they went out on a monday as well, tuesday the latest. I don't do fed ex and usually get mine by friday. Why your fedex shows up on Thursday, i have no idea. Whats the big deal, monday or tuesday checks go out, that's no lag in my book.
B. Find me a program that does give you credit for previous members signing back up. So your telling me I can signup to webcams today, cancel, sign back up next week, cancel. sign back up next month, cancel and keep getting credit from the affiliate sales ???????
C. Please explain. That' pretty baseless acusation. I can go do some test to your site later today and come back and say the same shit. Can you back this accusation up with proof or explain more how you claim clickcash is cheating people?

kinda like your post here right.

Title:" Which webcam site converts the best?"

and then your first post, about 5 pages long blowing yourself. nice, spade. :disgust

http://www.islive.nl :thumbsup

lol I was just indicating why Webcams.com was the best webcam site, which it is

as far as multiple rejoins, if they are from different affiliates we give credit for the sales, for the same affiliate we don't, I think that's pretty standard.

and in regards to not being credited for all sales, why don't you try a test...

go on yahoo messenger or another chat service and pretend you're a model doing webcam shows on ifriends. Talk the surfers into signing up with your clickcash link. Once they are done, have them forward you the confirmation email proving that they signed up. Get 30 people to sign up this way and see how many you get credit for

I can't believe you are too illogical to admit that the best domain name in the business does not mean perceived customer trust .. like I said before that is basic marketing :) I am logical enough to admit that ifriends is still a good site and worthwhile to send traffic to.

And for anyone who has not tried Webcams.com here is our link:

http://www.webcams.com/affiliate/

lol

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ifriends+fraud

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ff&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...am&btnG=Search

interesting thread :2 cents:

I can't tell you if it is standard or not to keep giving credit to people who signup multiple times to through different affiliate links, but I can tell you, you are asking for a lot of fraud problems. I am sure there are people who will exploit this and i wouldn't be surprised if you change it at some point in time now that people are aware of it.


you are sounding more and more like an amateur.

so you really think webcams.com is the BEST out there. What do you have to back this other then your opinion? .... nothing. that's right. Does your site have the most affiliates. most models online, biggest variety to choose from, best features for the customers, do you payout more to affiliates, do you have affiliates that make a million+ a year. I could go on and on, on what deterimes the best company out there. And while some of the factors are subjective, webcams.com is not even in the ball park none the less. Being in the company of cams.com, ifriends, etc. you think you are the best, lol.

so your proof is to get some dude to fake being a model in a chatroom and try to get people to signup. When the surfer says he signed up and you don;t see the sale, that is your fucking proof. :helpme You have got to be kidding me. I don't signup to ifriends every day, but to my knowledge the person does not revceive a confirmation email. Do you know how many times the surfer lies, or gives in and say's they have signed up just to get the girl (or dude pretending to be a girl) to stop asking him to signup, or thinking she will give him something for free. I know first hand, i use to own/opperate a webcam house and I use to have the girls go whore for signups. More then half the time the guy would swear he signed up but he didn't. And this was using ibill, not clickcash. When you try to trick someone do you really expect them to be truthfull back to you? :1orglaugh so clickcash doesn't give people credit for all of their sales because some guys in a chatroom told you they signed up. Even if some sales got lost because the person clicked the non adult signup, or they had cookies disabled, at the end of the day you still make a lot more with clickcash. Ask around, even the people who use them and bitch still tell you this is the case.

The best domain in the business is sex.com. For webcams, I personally like cams.com better. And no, the domain alone doesn't really mean that much to the customer. if the domain was cjdhfkd.ru then yeah, i doubt many people would put their credit card number in but, if it was webcams.com or livecams.com or naughtycams.com no I don't think instills any more or less trust into the surfer.

Man, you are a tool. What experience do you have in this industry? or in marketing that you claim to know so much about.

If you knew anything you would know that all large companies that do a high volume of transactions will always have people that complain. I could do the same search for ebay, paypal, microsoft, adultfriendfinder, etc.... Why don't you wait till you are actually in business for a couple years and if you can do any kind of volume at all you will have you fair share of fraud complaints.

You are full of yourself -- this equals higher conversions too ?

your scrub is low.. so you say, and everyone else is high then ? If your scrub is too low you will be out of business. And those webpages, wow they are so much better then all the other webcam sites :1orglaugh and that name, or that name, the name along converts 10:1 times better then cams.com. :error

For all the success of ifriends, their site is a real pain in the ass and from a usability pov, a disaster. Don't get me wrong, I do know they convert reasonably well but in the year+ I've been using clickcash I've barely seen anything new added to their affiliate tools section.

Webcams.com seems to be constantly adding and improving which, as an affiliate, I'd say is a good thing.

Webcams.com is a new site, see what they have added new in 10 years from now, muchless if they are still around.

clickcash has added stuff over the last year (not much) , but you also have to search ifriends for new features, like groups, or fan club pages, etc.. you can link to these different sections as well.

I am always an option to work with. I probably have 10x more promos and plug-ins that you can use for clickcash plus one on one help. You can think of me as a rep, that actually knows what he is doing. We all know most reps are reps and not advertisers for a reason.

check out some of my new promos:

http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/geo-targeting.htm Can't say that clickcash doesn't offer geo-targeting anymore. Unlike other affilite programs, my script allows you to place the location any where you want, with your own promos or mine. I also have 3 options available, the correct city(local city according to your ip), a close city (random city with in 300 miles of you), and a random city (pulls any random city). Here is a little free advice for everyone, surfers are catching on to geo-targeting, those of you who show like 8 girls and all 8 are from the surfer's city, LOL they are not falling for that shit anymore. You need to mix it up now, have 1 -2 from their local city, 1 or 2 from a city close, and the rest random, this will sell them every time and convert geo-targeting 100% better. Also this requires no programming on your end, it is simple java script that you place on your site. For those of you who like to steal, it is protected, I have to authorize you to use it.(suggestions/consulting like this is also included in addition to the promos I create for to those of you who work with me.)

http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/webcam-plugin.htm - this displays some of the chathost who are live on cam right now. Plugin can be modified by size, color, categories, which category displays on page load, etc... I am working on several other variations/layouts for this. Connects either to their profile or to their live chatroom on ifriends.

Working example of geo-targeted add made for TCC member: www.cruisingforcams.com/cfs/demo.htm

I have several other promos and several more in the works... So i know you guys say Clickcash doesn't provide a lot of tools, but i do, so whats the difference really ? I don't charge for my services, just ask you refer me.

I tried and signed up for ifriends couple of months ago.
Afaik to get my account activated I was supposed to fax
some documents which I thought its pretty retarded for this day of age.
Oh well.

having to fax or mail a signed agreement is retarded? Some compaines actually take their TOS seriously. More so then just clicking [YES] I agree.

It's not like they even make you wait to get started. You can start right away, just need to get them the docs before you get your first check.

Yes I think its retarded. You see we invented this thing called internet, read
about it. When you see a company asking you to use deprecated tools
just because they can't go with the times its obviously a turn off for
me and prolly many others.
Good thing they didn't require smoke signals.
At the end of the day, fuck em, I got others to chose from.

glad to hear that you do well with clickcash, unfortunately most can't say the same.

I don't really do anything with cams directly anymore, but I did promote clickcash(ifriends) from 1999-2003.

the only real changes they made during those years were up the base signups and lower the payouts.

I've tried just about every cam sponsor, and besides hsn pre-ifriends backbone (where you are fucked if the people signing up already used that card on ifriends), webcams.com is one of the best converting so far. not only in click to sale ratio, but dollar per clicked traffic earned. not to mention the only traffic they recieve from me currently is not really cam friendly, I just needed to fill banner space.

I'd love nothing more to see clickcash get off its ass and do a little updating. a new outdated affiliate design just doesn't cut it. ifriends is still using windows 95 while the rest of the market is preparing for longhorn. was a great program prior to this time 2002ish, maybe one day it will be revived.

deprecated tools ?

there is still such a thing as a signature that the law still gives a lot of weight to. You sound like you are 18, you think the fax machine is obsolete ?

When you grow up and sign real contracts you will understand this.

missinformed idiot.

ask around, most people do well with clickcash, how do you explain the fact that they payout more each month then most, if not all, other affiliate programs???

Just because you stopped making money with them doesn't mean everyone else has. they have also added a good bit of tools over the years, i guess you missed them. Also, you didn't see my post where I offer tools for people. Or hey how about this, you make your own. wow how hard is that?

and their outdated site, you really haven't looked around ifriends lately.They added a lot of new features and sections to ifriends. As far as the design/look, hey why fix it if it isn't broke. It obviously works, why change it?

I happen to sign a lot of contracts, that doesn't mean I have to like
the way its beeing done. However thats mainstream stuff.
I certainly won't do this for the right to make them money.
You probably consider google and others alike not a real business because
they don't ask for such things.
As far as I'm concerned they can stay like that forever I really have
nothing to lose from that.

You know what, if you wanna talk to me from now on you should
send me a mail or fax :1orglaugh

Hey hey. Our affiliate program www.visit-x.net/webmaster is doing well. I wouldn't have thought that visit-x.net would convert as well, I guess I was wrong. Those are my 10 cents to the topic.

I agree that the whole fax thing is really stupid, uh why the fuck cant I email the signed pdf to you guys...oh ya because you dont have anyone that answers email on a regular basis. It makes 0 sense that faxes are only accepted, I'm fine with signing the stupid thing but really why cant it be emailed its not the 80s, they still have those giant cell phones over at clickcash?

and see sig

I'm sure glad you are not an actual ifriends "rep", as your endless defence/ranting/insulting sure aren't winning any new fans.

Many of the points here are valid and in regards to the lack of tools, they shouldn't just be available to people like you, most cam sites make excellent promo tools for ALL webmasters ... and listen to their affiliates by adding new ones sometimes.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CC would can your account quick like

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

haha

a little too defensive eh?

it's ok. while the rest of the industry moves forward, keep on truckin'.. backwards.

LOL good to see will76 back at it again keeping everyone on their toes.

Welcome back will :)

good thing clickcash has terrible support and pathetic promo tools so will can stay in business :1orglaugh

you are an idiot. go fax yourself.

it can be mailed through the mail too, if you don't have a fax. I mean all you little bitches crying about this why? why the crying that you need to fax something, Listen to yourself, you say why can't i just sign it, scan it, and email it. Well who the fuck cares, is it that much harder to print it and fax it? What's the fucking difference. Or how much harder to hit print, sign it, and instead of scaning you put it in a fucking envelope and drop it in the mailbox. How fuckign hard is that, little bitches probably spend all day just trying to find something to complain about.

i don't give a shit if you like me or not you can honestly kiss my ass for all i care Get your shit straight, the tools are not just available to 'people like me". I made the tools myself, is it ok if I can use them since I made them. I also let other people who work with me use them too. Everything Clickcash makes is available to all ClickCash users. I am a successful webmaster and I know what works best and I share that with people I work with. I am not that selective with who I work with either so it pretty much leaves the door open to people who actually make a few bucks and have a good attitude. I don't need any of you, i make 95% of my income from my own sales. I like working with people though, but not the ones that bitch and complain. I am easy to work with, just ask the people work with me. I am not a kiss ass like most of the company owners here.

hey, good to be back. Nothing like wasting 10 mins a week on people who think they know it all but make jack shit, as evident from the posters in this thread.

in reply to one resident idiot of this post... I'll just keep on trucking backwards making more and more each year (over the last 5 years).

Congrats on the new addition to the family. :thumbsup

nice reply to my other early posts....

FYI, fucktard, 95% of my income is from my own sales, not referrals.

What is your role with webcams.com ? are you a rep, owner, employee, what?

I hope you are an owner, it would be ashame if you are actually getting paid to work.