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Old 01-12-2006, 09:26 PM   #1
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Just got this from FTV Cash...

Not sure who the girl is, but I just got this email from Chris over @ FTV Cash...

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FTVCash is asking all affiliates to please remove any Lindsay
content/movies/galleries ASAP as she has passed away. We are removing all
content from the FTVGirls and FTVCash site. Please respect her families wishes
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:28 PM   #2
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:29 PM   #3
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This is why the email was sent to affiliates and not posted on GFY
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This is why the email was sent to affiliates and not posted on GFY
So sue me.
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:37 PM   #6
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:38 PM   #7
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:47 PM   #10
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:50 PM   #11
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That is sad. But, I wonder why they didn't mind her putting erotic pics of her on the web while she was alive? Seems kinda backwards to me.
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damn.. this is become all too common

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That is sad. But, I wonder why they didn't mind her putting erotic pics of her on the web while she was alive? Seems kinda backwards to me.
We own the rights to the content. We would hope that affiliates would respect our request of removing the content. The reasons for this do not have to be public information. As far as us minding the posting her content when she was alive, she made that decision when she decided to shoot for FTV, she is no longer around to enforce that.
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:56 PM   #14
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I wasn't being a dickhead. I thought this was an "industry" message forum, and since she was a "model" in this "industry" and she's now deceased, people other then affiliates of FTV Cash might like to know that she is now deceased.

I apologize for making the assumption that people actually give two shits about anything other then their mad stacks of cash, blinged out rolexes, and the 14 or so porsches in the driveway.

In other news, I don't have mad stacks of cash, nor do I care to own a rolex, and I think that Porsche sucks. Thank you and have a nice day. (And by the way, if you can't tell this is dripping with sarcasm, just for your Nylz.)
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Sorry to hear about Lindsay.

However, fetishblog.. fuck what these assholes are saying. If they didn't want it posted on GFY the email should've said something at the very least. Most of these idiots have the worst fucked up scrupals anyway. Just laugh at them, and move on.
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That is sad. But, I wonder why they didn't mind her putting erotic pics of her on the web while she was alive? Seems kinda backwards to me.
This makes no sense ....
Just think about what you said for a few minutes and hopefully sense will come to you
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:33 PM   #17
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This makes no sense ....
Just think about what you said for a few minutes and hopefully sense will come to you
It's been discussed here before, and a number of models have said they wouldn't want the content removed. They weren't ashamed to do it while they were alive, no reason for their efforts in life to be hidden when they passed.

Now this has nothing to do with Chris' situation, because he's alluding that there's a bit more involved, and will just respect that.
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I mean no disrespect for the dead. RIP Lindsay.

BUT what the fuck is this ?
Is this a business or a game kids play ? and anytime someone
can take his toys and stop playing.
You know what if I start removing this I'd better remove all your shit
because I def don't wanna do it next time one of your models dies.
Get some fucking business sense.
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I mean no disrespect for the dead. RIP Lindsay.

BUT what the fuck is this ?
Is this a business or a game kids play ? and anytime someone
can take his toys and stop playing.
You know what if I start removing this I'd better remove all your shit
because I def don't wanna do it next time one of your models dies.
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I think it's normal that the family don't want the pictures around!
They also surf i think en when you see you'r loved one naked .........

And customers don't want to jerk off on a dead person i guess.

Pretty normal.
I don't know who's the girl we are talking about at the moment but RIP
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I mean no disrespect for the dead. RIP Lindsay.

BUT what the fuck is this ?
Is this a business or a game kids play ? and anytime someone
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You know what if I start removing this I'd better remove all your shit
because I def don't wanna do it next time one of your models dies.
Get some fucking business sense.
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I do agree that "I" should have stated in the email that we did not want this posted on a webmaster board. However for my business sense, We have over 170 models inside of FTVGirls and my affiliates are very happy with the monies that they are making with me and my partner in FTVCash. Now if you do not want this to be a problem for you please give me your affiliate id right now and I will deactivate you. I do not want an affiliate promoting FTVCash sites that has no personal morals or values. I would rather you "remove all your shit because I def don't wanna do it next time" then have you not feel the decensy or loss of another human being. On another note; most affiliates understand that this is an isolated incident in which we have personally suffered a tragic loss, we have 170 models and would gladly provide you with content from another one of our models to replace the stuff we are asking you politely to take down, if you are even currently promoting any of her sets or us at all
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We have over 170 models

Newsflash.
Out of your 170 models some of them will die in the next years.
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I mean no disrespect for the dead. RIP Lindsay.

BUT what the fuck is this ?
Is this a business or a game kids play ? and anytime someone
can take his toys and stop playing.
You know what if I start removing this I'd better remove all your shit
because I def don't wanna do it next time one of your models dies.
Get some fucking business sense.
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Out of your 170 models some of them will die in the next years.
I am not trying to argue with you, belittle, or even be mean in any way. But please just respect what we have asked. If this is too much for you give me your affiliate id and I will remove you from our program. I do not think this is too much to ask.
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Really don't get the point why people can react so heated when a partner site asks to remove some content. It's a polite question, i had Lindsay on my site as well. I read the mail and simply deleted the 2 sets, simple as that. Is it headline news when a partner site asks something ? When you have some moral or good business sense, it's not that hard to follow a question of a respectfull site, which FTV definately is.

My 2 cents ;)
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Really don't get the point why people can react so heated when a partner site asks to remove some content. It's a polite question, i had Lindsay on my site as well. I read the mail and simply deleted the 2 sets, simple as that. Is it headline news when a partner site asks something ? When you have some moral or good business sense, it's not that hard to follow a question of a respectfull site, which FTV definately is.

My 2 cents ;)
lol. a fusker talking about good business sense.
why don't you just gfy.

Anyway like I said in my first post this is not Lindsay related.
I'm glad that you idiots can read.
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lol. a fusker talking about good business sense.
why don't you just gfy.

Anyway like I said in my first post this is not Lindsay related.
I'm glad that you idiots can read.
Yes your first post of I mean no disrespect for the dead was a great disclaimer for you to criticize how we run our business. If you do have an affiliate code please give it to me Chris at ftvgirls.com so I can delete you. Otherwise have a good morning and I am glad that you are not an FTVCash affiliate. I am going to sleep now.
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your answer says alot about yourself ;)

forgot to tell this answer was intented for 'Darksoul'

have fun over here, no reason to discuss anymore on this item. Asking for respect nowadays seems to be a hard thing. It's more fun to fight, isn't it. I'll go to sleep as well, so long.
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your answer says alot about yourself ;)

forgot to tell this answer was intented for 'Darksoul'

have fun over here, no reason to discuss anymore on this item. Asking for respect nowadays seems to be a hard thing. It's more fun to fight, isn't it. I'll go to sleep as well, so long.

Totally off topic, what script are you usuing for your blog kinda style?
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Totally off topic, what script are you usuing for your blog kinda style?
It all runs on Movable Type version 3. All the other (surrounding) things are custom made.
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That is sad. But, I wonder why they didn't mind her putting erotic pics of her on the web while she was alive? Seems kinda backwards to me.
i agree 100%. i dont see why her passing away matters as far as keeping her content up goes even though its very sad and unfortunate what happened.
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i agree 100%. i dont see why her passing away matters as far as keeping her content up goes even though its very sad and unfortunate what happened.
what if her family contacted you and asked that the content be taken down?
what if a girl commited suicide and left a note where the content she shot caused her alot of pain which played a part in the depression that led her to kill herself?

many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
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what if her family contacted you and asked that the content be taken down?
what if a girl commited suicide and left a note where the content she shot caused her alot of pain which played a part in the depression that led her to kill herself?

many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
Well said, and I totally agree.
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You guys have no respect, the key line in the email was "We are removing all content from the FTVGirls and FTVCash site. Please respect her families wishes and do the same." Now get her removed guys! How would you like it if this was your little sister?
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For goodness sake show a bit of respect and remove her content. What's it gonna take you, 5 minutes? 10 even?
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what if her family contacted you and asked that the content be taken down?
what if a girl commited suicide and left a note where the content she shot caused her alot of pain which played a part in the depression that led her to kill herself?

many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
I'm not sure why this is so difficult for some people. Anyone with class and a consciounce would agree with your statement..
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what if her family contacted you and asked that the content be taken down?
what if a girl commited suicide and left a note where the content she shot caused her alot of pain which played a part in the depression that led her to kill herself?

many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
the guy that put the gutters on my house a few years ago passed away, if his family came by asking me to take them down i wouldnt do it. i dont see how a girl modeling for a porn site is any different. if you think a girl being naked on the internet is such a bad thing why do you shoot content for a living? if her being naked on the internet after being passed away is such a bad thing in your eyes, i dont see how its not a bad thing when shes alive. the suicide thing is a rare case that will most likely never happen, nice attempt to try and twist the story around.
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:03 AM   #43
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i think it would be interesting to compare the success and longevity between the more conscionable webmasters and the twisted pricks that are just interested in making a buck. I can only imagine that the poor judgement and lack of decency will pave the road to your future assistant management position at mcdonalds.

then of course, there are always people like p1mpdogg to prove that theory wrong.

anyway, i've removed all the content i had up of her, thanks for the e-mail chris. i'd hate for a relative of hers to run across her adult work somewhere down the road, pouring salt in the wound comes to mind. it's not so much that people should worry about what she wished, but consider those that survived her passing and have a little heart.
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:06 AM   #44
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:08 AM   #45
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i think it would be interesting to compare the success and longevity between the more conscionable webmasters and the twisted pricks that are just interested in making a buck. I can only imagine that the poor judgement and lack of decency will pave the road to your future assistant management position at mcdonalds.

then of course, there are always people like p1mpdogg to prove that theory wrong.

anyway, i've removed all the content i had up of her, thanks for the e-mail chris. i'd hate for a relative of hers to run across her adult work somewhere down the road, pouring salt in the wound comes to mind. it's not so much that people should worry about what she wished, but consider those that survived her passing and have a little heart.

too bad you're missing the point.
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:27 AM   #48
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what if her family contacted you and asked that the content be taken down?
what if a girl commited suicide and left a note where the content she shot caused her alot of pain which played a part in the depression that led her to kill herself?

many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
Nicely said Mutt!
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:33 AM   #49
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many of these girls do suffer consequences for their decision to pose nude for the Net - many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand - anybody who makes a living in this business depends on girls to 'take the money'. i believe there is a moral obligation to these girls should things go bad for them as a direct consequence - and no I don't consider an unhappy boyfriend as a just cause - but i have heard stories of worse than that - i'd dump content or a whole website if I felt it was the right thing to do.
So let me get this straight. You acknowledge that it is in some way taking advantage of young girls and their lack of experience. You say so in your own words "many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand".

So it's okay to do it in the first place, but somehow morally the right thing to do to remove the offending content, especially if it caused them to kill themselves?

Let me summarize your apparent position and see if you still agree: When you're using the inexperience and emotional immaturatiy of a young girl to make pornographic content, the right thing to do is to take it down if she kills herself or is killed after.

Maybe don't make it in the first place, rockstar.

Shit what's next .. drag racing in a playground zone and stopping when somebody dies?
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So let me get this straight. You acknowledge that it is in some way taking advantage of young girls and their lack of experience. You say so in your own words "many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand".

So it's okay to do it in the first place, but somehow morally the right thing to do to remove the offending content, especially if it caused them to kill themselves?

Let me summarize your apparent position and see if you still agree: When you're using the inexperience and emotional immaturatiy of a young girl to make pornographic content, the right thing to do is to take it down if she kills herself or is killed after.

Maybe don't make it in the first place, rockstar.

Shit what's next .. drag racing in a playground zone and stopping when somebody dies?
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