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Old 01-18-2006, 06:29 PM   #51
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:29 PM   #52
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51 hours of work a month is what you should do Jay
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:30 PM   #53
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You think I should go harder on him?

I still can.
how old is he?

no jail time

but something subtle that would make him shit his pants and realize what a fucking stupid thing it was to do what he did.

lawyers are one thing but law enforement showing up at your door is another.
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Don't get me wrong i'd make him my bitch too...just wouldn't post the details

Good luck with it, & don't send the kid to prison....that shits not cool.
If you post the details, people will think twice before they fuck with you.

I don't believe in putting anything into the hands of law enforcement. I hate cops.

The "kid" is 32 btw.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:34 PM   #55
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i think i saw a similar situation unfold on a seinfeld episode, a guy crashed into george's car and didn't have insurance so george made him his butler!

classic

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Old 01-18-2006, 06:34 PM   #56
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If you post the details, people will think twice before they fuck with you.

I don't believe in putting anything into the hands of law enforcement. I hate cops.

The "kid" is 32 btw.

does he have more than 5,000 posts here at GFY?
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:34 PM   #57
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Not that I don't think the guy got what he deserved, but I'm amazed that your lawyer signed off on what is known as blackmail. If it was a written settlement, he'd be disbarred overnight if caught.

Also, he wouldn't get 4-9 years in jail. Guys who create viruses that cripple the entire world don't get much more than a year or two. If a first offense, I'd assume he'd get probation, probably not allowed online for over a year or two. However, I don't think many law enforcement agencies would jump on some guy who deleted a blog. You'd be left with a civil settlement.

exactly he would not get 4-9 yrs, most likely he will get is a couple months and a yr or two of probation if hes had a clean record. You do realize that most people agree to a plea bargin right?

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Old 01-18-2006, 06:35 PM   #58
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Not that I don't think the guy got what he deserved, but I'm amazed that your lawyer signed off on what is known as blackmail. If it was a written settlement, he'd be disbarred overnight if caught.

Also, he wouldn't get 4-9 years in jail. Guys who create viruses that cripple the entire world don't get much more than a year or two. If a first offense, I'd assume he'd get probation, probably not allowed online for over a year or two. However, I don't think many law enforcement agencies would jump on some guy who deleted a blog. You'd be left with a civil settlement.
Like I said: under the term of the agreement, he will be held liable for $75,000 if he breaks the terms.

You are right, it is not in writing.

I have up to 5 years to press charges. The agreement is just for damages...when (or if) I call the popo -- that's up to me.

He deleted my entire mysql database of a website that pulls in probably 10K of gross revenue (between what I make, the programs, and the people that are listed) -- make no mistake about it.

It's a big deal.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:36 PM   #59
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don't call the popo. that's not cool
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:36 PM   #60
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does he have more than 5,000 posts here at GFY?

No...........
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:40 PM   #61
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exactly he would not get 4-9 yrs, most he will get is a couple months and a yr or two of probation if hes had a clean record. You do realize that most people agree to a plea bargin right?
If you've never done time...most people can't handle a couple months. Fuck most people freak out over a night. Plus, all of the time you wait for your trial. It's life on "time out" -- hell, probabation is no fun either. Been there, done that.

I am giving him an easy out the benifits me.

I did 6 moths consecutive, a month, and a month another time -- that was when I was younger and a lot more wreckless. Now the one thing I try most to do is not repeat those mistakes.

I know about the system.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:40 PM   #62
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How old is he, cause if he still lives with his parents, I'm sure theren would be a way to get the money out of them that way you don't have to deal with that little twat for a year.
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good work on getting him and making him your bitch, after the year is up we should give him a blanket party
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:42 PM   #64
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How old is he, cause if he still lives with his parents, I'm sure theren would be a way to get the money out of them that way you don't have to deal with that little twat for a year.
He's 32.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:43 PM   #65
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good work on getting him and making him your bitch, after the year is up we should give him a blanket party
Who knows...he might wind up to be a good employee.
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If dude is 32, make sure he works 80 hours a month. Thats ridiculous.

And good call on the cops dude.
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If dude is 32, make sure he works 80 hours a month. Thats ridiculous.

And good call on the cops dude.
That's what Hunter S would do.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:47 PM   #68
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Glad things got worked out and he repays his mistake in full without any delays
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If you post the details, people will think twice before they fuck with you.

I don't believe in putting anything into the hands of law enforcement. I hate cops.

The "kid" is 32 btw.
32?

fuck that guy - dude lay some type of smackdown upon his ass.
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wordpress.

BTW, do you like wordpress Jay?
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BTW, do you like wordpress Jay?
Hmmm, should we be patching our Wordpress installations or did he get in some other way?
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Who knows...he might wind up to be a good employee.

if so, you might want to drug test him ;-))))
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You don't have a backup of the database? Your site is still offline.
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Part of the agreement I have with him is not to mention his name.

Right now, he owes me:

1. He must fix what he did.
2. Pay all costs.
3. Owes me 40hrs of work per month for a year.

If, at any point, he backs out. I will let the criminal charges fly (I have a mountian of evidence against him) and he will be doing 4-9 years in Club Fed.

I investigated the guy first. He doesn't have a lot of money, so I can't take that. If the cops got him - how would the benifit me?

I think I did the right thing.

Free work for a year.

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BTW, do you like wordpress Jay?
Killer software. Some security problems though.
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you did the right thing Jay. I hate playa haters
shut the fuck up.. do you even know what the fuck a mysql db is?

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shut the fuck up.. youve never worked a day in your fucking life...


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shut the fuck up.. dont act like you know what the fuck you are talking about. you are a snot nosed bitch who thinks he knows something about life listening to rap songs.
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There was a raid backup. We are trying the data recovery (at hackers expense) tomorrow.

I am switching hosts too...I don't care how much it costs...I'm going to Natnet!
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cool, thanks for the info
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Like I said: under the term of the agreement, he will be held liable for $75,000 if he breaks the terms.

You are right, it is not in writing.

I have up to 5 years to press charges. The agreement is just for damages...when (or if) I call the popo -- that's up to me.

He deleted my entire mysql database of a website that pulls in probably 10K of gross revenue (between what I make, the programs, and the people that are listed) -- make no mistake about it.

It's a big deal.
I'm sure it's a big deal and I'm sure you could have this guy signing over his paychecks for the next decade if you pursued it in civil court. However, as someone who has worked for the govt in a somewhat related sector, they honestly wouldn't do anything. They don't even pursue child molesters who meet little kids off the Internet. It is sad, but our govt feels it is more important to have our resources on liberating some 3rd world country than protecting their own citizens from crimes.
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I'm sure it's a big deal and I'm sure you could have this guy signing over his paychecks for the next decade if you pursued it in civil court. However, as someone who has worked for the govt in a somewhat related sector, they honestly wouldn't do anything. They don't even pursue child molesters who meet little kids off the Internet. It is sad, but our govt feels it is more important to have our resources on liberating some 3rd world country than protecting their own citizens from crimes.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting much symaphy from the law or the courts. Our lawyer (Jeffery Douglas...thank him for killing 2257) says I did the right thing.
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I'd be careful with talking too much...
I don't give a fuck...I want people to know if they hack...they get caught...here is a prime example.
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Part of the agreement I have with him is not to mention his name.

Right now, he owes me:

1. He must fix what he did.
2. Pay all costs.
3. Owes me 40hrs of work per month for a year.

If, at any point, he backs out. I will let the criminal charges fly (I have a mountian of evidence against him) and he will be doing 4-9 years in Club Fed.

I investigated the guy first. He doesn't have a lot of money, so I can't take that. If the cops got him - how would the benifit me?

I think I did the right thing.

Free work for a year.
That was a pretty quick investigation, are you sure he doesn't have any money you can get at instead of the blackmail stuff?
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I doubt you'll get the 40hrs/week. All he'll be doing for the next year is working for you, not being paid, and not having time to work elsewhere. I doubt it will happen.
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Hmmm.. No offense.. But why are you're trying to save face for your mistake? People make mistakes. Especially with the backups. But inventing a story to become a hero is lame.
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I doubt you'll get the 40hrs/week. All he'll be doing for the next year is working for you, not being paid, and not having time to work elsewhere. I doubt it will happen.
I think you are right about that but at least Jay will be able to beat him over the head when ever he feels like it
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That was a pretty quick investigation, are you sure he doesn't have any money you can get at instead of the blackmail stuff?
Dude, he's 32 -- lives with his mom.
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Hmmm.. No offense.. But why are you're trying to save face for your mistake? People make mistakes. Especially with the backups. But inventing a story to become a hero is lame.
No that post is lame.

I am no hero...you are right about the backups.
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He left a post saying you had an insecure directory -- is that the truth or did he find an exploit in a script on your site?
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Oh no doubt he gets what he's deserved. I'd personally just speak with my lawyer regarding what info should be kept aside, and off the boards.
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Part of the agreement I have with him is not to mention his name.

Right now, he owes me:

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2. Pay all costs.
3. Owes me 40hrs of work per month for a year.

If, at any point, he backs out. I will let the criminal charges fly (I have a mountian of evidence against him) and he will be doing 4-9 years in Club Fed.

I investigated the guy first. He doesn't have a lot of money, so I can't take that. If the cops got him - how would the benifit me?

I think I did the right thing.

Free work for a year.
Sounds fair, but 1 question still stands, why did he do it?? Is he stupid in his whole fucking head or something? He did it and dont even have anything against you??
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I would go ahead and send his ass to jail. the only thing is, that then all of your stuff gets looked at really well.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:02 PM   #99
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:05 PM   #100
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