wasting time and energy? you only set customizations up once, then its no more time than doing a regular submit lol

and so basicly now your saying using dreamsubmitter is like using chameleon but having extra partner accounts? :1orglaugh

So by your own logic then, having the one extra partner accounts AND using dream submitter will make you even more.

There's only a finite number of partner accounts available. Optimization and effeciency are king.

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the BEST and really EFFECTIVE is CHAMELEON SUBMITTER - you can try FULL ONE-MONTH VERSION

and you can try chameleon email confirmer and chameleon partner account requester

and here is CHAMELEON TUTORIAL - you can see,
how simple, easy and effective you can submit
your galleries to more than 2 300 TGP/MGP
in a few minutes

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Before you go this route again there is still a question open for you. A very important question since it would solve all the questions in this thread. Please answer it before making more smart ass comments. I wont take you seriously till you do, sorry. The best this and that but without giving a reason is getting real old real fast.

I knew you would ignore it though. No surprise there.

Oh and i know youre gonna keep on going on about that 0.1% i was talking about. Dont get me wrong. Im still saying that 2 times the same list, same partner accounts it is still no difference using DS or CS, each submitter can make more money than the other. DS can have 1000 extra options and i still could make more money using CS. So you can stop talking about that 0.1 now.

I've replied to your email, I've applied for my Partner Accounts pretty much the same way as you did, I've just activated the "OnlyPartner" submission types in my AdvancedSubmitters DBs, and went through the list, took ~2-3 Days for 500 Sites. Then I had the idea for PartnerRequester.com ~6 months ago, which speeds up the entire requesting task a lot, it now only takes ~6 hours for ~1200 TGPs and MGPs.

BTW my Beta testers are almost finished with testing the site, we'd only need to do a few final tests for the Signup Scripts and the Affiliate Area, so it'll be ready within the next few days.

We use and recommend http://www.tgpwizards.com :

It's free for the basic version.

Concentrates on quality TGP's and not quantity in it's database.

Multiple profiles to allow for different niche/genre submissions.

Auto creation but manual handling of partner and high traffic TGP's.

Downloadable desktop submitter for greater control over submissions.

Automatic resubmission and automatic submission limiting to ensure that rules of TGP's are not broken.

Auto-FTP of created pages.

Excellent support.

As free to try can you afford not to check it out?

There is still a question open for you too....

Lets try to get Warchild to answer his question first since its more topic related.

It's been asked and answered over and over as to why Dream Submitter is better. What features it has that are better and why. I'm not going to type another big message to save you the few minutes of reading the existing posts.

I've tried to tell you which tool is best based on 5 years experience as a full time gallery submitter, having used all the tools, and having made well in to a 6 figure income with my refined method of gallery submission for most of my time in the business.

You, on the other hand, with your no years experience, having never made in a month what I make evey month on galleries seem to have a different opinion as to how to do it. That's fine. If you value what you think you know based on what you think you can produce, but are not now and never have, more than actual experience that's your call.

Frankly, given the choice, I'd rather every single one of you fail as a gallery submitter. So by all means, do it your way. I'm not going to try and sell you any submitter, especially since it doesn't make me a dime. Submit by hand, have a monkey do it, knock yourself out.

I've given my opinion and backed it up with my credentials. You keep talking about what you are _going_ to do or _can_ do, but we don't hear much about what you have done. That speaks volumes.

See sig for the best "submitters".

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Ok, a simple "no, i cant give you a reason why you cant make as much using Chameleon" wouldve been enough. You just said the same thing just using more words.

I know enough, thanks.

Im checking out the new ds now.

Look, if we were to start both at 8AM in the morning and submit full time, no breaks until 8PM at night, you using CS and me using DS, both with the exact same list of sites to submit to, at the end of the day I'd have submitted more galleries. That's because Dreamsubmitter is more effecient, and has some features you simply can't do in CS. If you can't see a clear advantage in that, I'm sorry, you're just stupid and I can't help.

Just wondering...you submit 6 galleries a day, how long does this take you? Assuming you have the templates ready. So from adding the content/screenshots to confirming the emails.

And also please give me 1 thing that a submit form / mgp needs that CS can't do. Where am i missing out. What am i missing that my gallery won't make it to the mgp's mainpage.

I submit 8 galleries a day and it takes under 4 hours. My submission database is more or less 500 sites.

Ok, our working methods are different i bet so it doesnt really compare but i do 5 galleries a day (at least i try to, i get easily bored) and it takes me max 1.5 hours. I think my list is about as big as yours. Most time goes to uploading all the index pages. 8 galleries would take me 2.5 hours i guess.

Alright i'll give you two things if it will shut you up, finally.

1) At least two large, paid partner accounts that are very profitable, and multiple smaller free partner account sites require now that your reciprical link on your gallery be specific and match the category you are submitting that particular gallery to. Dreamsumitter handles this automatically, and creates the right gallery with the right recip link for that day's specific submission.

If you are not submitting to these partner accounts your are throwing away more than $1000 a month in profit. If you are submitting to them with CS, you are managing these recips by hand each day. That's taking up time and time is money. Either way, you're losing money here.

2) At least one very large very profitable partner account REQUIRES 4 or more movies per gallery. Many if not most of the smaller sites do not. Dreamsubmitter automatically handles using the correct template and number of movies for these large sites. This allows you to submit a smaller number of movies to sites that accept it, and a large number to sites that require it. This saves bandwidth and/or gets you listed.

100 submitters that arent the best.

1) I know you hate to hear this but CS does this as well. So that wont exactly shit me up :)

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So this means making 2 templates, extra screenshot, extra settings, extra work, extra time. And another partner account that you might not have that is very profitable for me will make up for all of this....hmmm...
I understand your point but once again it boils down to having the right partner accounts, not having the right tricks in your submitter.

Nop, this didnt shut me up...at all...sorry.

Dreamsubmitter released version 2.0 in all its glory today, check it out here:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=564467

You can build a house with a nailgun or a hammer. In the end, it's just a house. One will not be better, per say, than the other. One house will be done faster though. It's said then it would be more effecient to build a house with a nailgun and not a hammer.

You know what I used to do before I worked in Adult? I was a project manager for a very large business system. Before that I was a process engineer running a Surface Mount Technology department at a large electronics manufacturer. For 10 years my job has always included making things work as effeciently as possible. I think I know a little about the subject.

I'm also done arguing with you. The day you make as much on galleries as me I'll admit you know more about doing it. Until then Frank, you're just another big talker with dreams of what you are going to do but haven't done yet. Good luck with that.

You dont have to say it here but care to tell me how much you make off mgp submitting? So i have a goal to work to?

And you cant blame me for not making as much off mgping as you do. How could i, ive been in the mgp game now for what,...3 months maybe...you, how much you said? 5 years? I sure hope you make way more than me with your galleries.

I'm not blaming you. I'm just questioning why you're arguing so viciously with me when you have as you just admitted only 3 months experience to draw on.

I don't make money on Dreamsubmitter selling. Not a dime. I know about CS and it would be cheaper for me to use it. So if it was really just as good, why wouldn't I just switch over? Becaue I'm stubborn?

How about the 6 guys I know personally that all make over 10K a month and many much more? Why do 5 of them use Dreamsubmitter and 1 uses Advanced submitter if they could all be saving money with CS? Nobody knows anybetter? Is it possible we know something you don't?

Well maybe i know something you guys dont...for one you didnt know about the multi recip option...i wonder what else you dont know. I know at least 1 person on your 10k list that hasnt even tried CS submitter so he cant possibly say DS is better...

And i hope you can answer this in truth....you tried CS...when was that?

I checked it out I guess nearly a year ago now. I was re-evaluating Advanced Submitter at the time and figured I'd check out CS too.

Heh. There's alot of great information hidden well within these arguements.

Well, you should browse the CS site one of these days and check their new options. It might make you think differently about some of the stuff you said.

every submitter is very good after you learn how to use them...

Sure it never hurts. I don't need to browse it to know Dreamsubmitter has more options though. I can just take your word for it:

Anything is possible. I mean, the sun's gotta shine even on a dog's ass, sometimes. :pimp

I will never deny that.

bump, lets keep this thread going shall we ;)

No point, i won already. Nobody can tell me why i cant make the same using CS :)

i did, but you refused to believe me lol.

Interesting argument.