Let's try this with a stipulation.

Gallery submitters making more than $10,000 a month from galleries, what submitter are you using?

I'll start. Dreamsubmitter.

show me 500 sites worth submitting too.

Amazing how this thread keep getting bumped.

It is all in the name.

G A L L E R Y S U B M I T T E R . C O M

plain and simple.

Can you make $10,000+ a month using it? Ofcourse! Can you make $10,000+ a month using another submitter? Yes, naturally?
BUT, and let's get this thing clear from the very start: YOU NEED FUCKING PARTNER ACCOUNTS TO DO IT!

Whomever flashes that he's making $10k a month submitting has a shitload of partner accounts. Doesn't mean diddly squat which program he uses to submit with.

Now, as to ease of submission I'm pretty certain you'll find GallerySubmitter.com unparralleled. It is totally hands-off. Is that bad you ask? Hell no! Thats' a good thing! And why? Because it means you work less but achieve the same! So how can that be when all the others for the most part need to be operated manually? Simple! GallerySubmitter.com is the real thing! ;)

Now that did clear the air. LOL

Let me bump this one more time.

GallerySubmitter.com is free. Just use these sponsors:
AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO PAY TO USE IT

Now, there's $35 a month saved for you already. That's one sale extra for you, right there, every single month.

And guess what, you can schedule 4+ months in advance. Go on vacation or what not, and your galleries are STILL submitted day in and day out. Emails confirmed, database updated ALL the time. Nothing to worry about for you. All you need to do is keep filling up with your galleries.

Man, it doesn't get any easier or more profitable than that :)

What will you buy me if i make 10k a month using Chameleon in the near future?

Besides the gallerysubmitter spam you are totally correct. Why warchild and nifield deny this, i have no clue.

There is absolutely NO reason why i cant make as much using Chameleon. Total bs. And i WILL do it and i hope they will say they were wrong once i hit the 10k.

I'd still give you a hard time for making only 10K and tell you it's because you were using Chameleon.

I've been in the gallery business for 4 almost 5 years. Many of my friends have been too. We're all using Dreamsubmitter and making quite a bit doing it.

It really doesn't help me if you make more money, to be honest, so use whatever submitter you want. Just don't tell me what you are going to do, or can do, or will do, just tell me what you are doing. What you are doing is making less money using Chameleon submitter.

Pretty ignorant. I already know posting stats in a few months or whatever wont make sense because even if i say im doing 20k with CS you will still deny everything.

Youre a smart guy, why you are so ignorant about this topic, i have no clue.

Anyway, i have to leave.

Bye.

I'm being ignorant? You're the one arguing process with somebody without any real position to fall back on. You think you're going to be able to do it, maybe you will, but you aren't now. You don't really know.

I'm going to make a paysite program that's 10X bigger and better than Nasty Dollars and I'm going to do it with notepad and my dad's 1991 handicam. It's just around the corner, I can do it, I will do it, you'll see! Kind of silly, no?

There's at least 5 people in this thread who make more than 10K a month on galleries. Some of them more than 20K. What do they have in common? They ALL use dreamsubmitter without fail. Ask yourself, could there be a reason for that?

Nice thread, wished GFY had more like this.

Broda - do you use icq?...

Yes I use icq sometimes. Can never remember my # so best if I give you a beep. Ok?

Have to agree with Broda here i've tried the others and nothing really comes close to gallerysubmitter.com don't knock it till you try it. Trust me after about a year of What The Fucks you'll always come back to gallerysubmitter.com.

i will be waiting!

Well, like i said. I can never change your mind. I could show you 10k a month stats using Chameleon or maybe 20 or 30...it wouldnt matter. You will find someone who does 40k using DS and say its because of DS.

But ok, different approach: Give me a reason why i could never make the same using CS.

Funny, we bumped at exactly the same time.

I'm second. AdvancedSubmitter :)

And as others already mentioned in this thread, the only thing that matters is how good your Databases are and how many Partner Accounts you have (free & bought). So it's a pretty much useless discussion which Submitter is the best, there are a few pretty good ones out there, and they all got already mentioned in this thread.

And if someone is looking for good Databases to start with take a look at http://updates.advancedsubmitter.com, they're not going to make you $10k per month right away, but they are the fastes way to get there within the next 12 months.

And if someone is looking for more free partner accounts take a look at http://www.partnerrequester.com. That's also not gonna make you $10k per month, but it's going to save you a lot of time on your way to get there :)

European-GFY-Vampires unite! :batman

I would be interested in feedback on these services for requesting partner accounts. From a price point of view, partnerrequester.com seems pretty reasonable. Chameleon has one, but that is $299. Question is do any of the TGP owners have a problem with these.. and do they work?
Feedback from those who use them would be appreciated.

I used to submit a lot in 2002-2004. Took the year off in 2005. Now things have changed and it looks like lots or partner accounts are a necessity for decent traffic thanks to the cheaters.

I was going to go through the Chameleon database and manually apply to all the sites requiring partners, but if one of these services will save me a lot of time, it seems well worth it.

kudos to you guys who get 10k a month using a particular submitter. I really do not think generating high $$ is a test for a good submitter. What counts is how stable the cash with the same number of partner accounts. :winkwink:

-rich

:bigears

'zactly! :pimp

Every time that there is a submitter's thread, Chameleon gets most mentions than any other.

not really I think both DS & CS get mentioned alot ;)

I would like to know this as well. What does chameleon do/not do that is hindering me to make more than what I would with DS?

If you want to get the most number of submissions done, with the highest degree of accuracy in the least amount of time, then you'll want to use Dreamsubmitter.

If you don't think efficiency and accuracy are all that important, use whatever you like.

As for spelling out the exact differences, you know what: don't use dreamsubmitter. Submit by hand, or use CS or whatever you like. Less competition for me anyway.

Ignorance is bliss.

if you and i bioth had the same partner accounts and the same sites in our database, i would make more because i can maximize my profits by using console linkcodes for smaller sites (which give higher payouts) and no console link codes for bigger sites that dont allow sponsor consoles. I can also save money on bandwidth by submitting 3 movies to the sites that want 3, 4 to the ones that require 4, and 5 to the sites that require me to half 5 movies, all in a single submission.

So yes, i would make more money and maximize my profits and bandwidth with dreamsubmitter over chameleon. This is true :)

Hey dude, i never said you couldnt do 10k a month with chameleon, i have always said it just would be and is easier to do using dreamsubmitter. Dreamsubmitter just has more functionality period. And i don't think warchild is saying you cant be succesful with chameleon, i think what hes trying to say is you could be MORE succesful with dreamsubmitter.

i beg to differ, its clear that dreamsubmitter is the best submitter out there just checkout this poll:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...9&page=1&pp=50

whats the best submitter for Mac users? it seems Chameleon Submitter works only with windows. anyone?

I stated above just one of the reasons you can make more money with DS... i don't like to create lists of why ds is better than chameleon because in the past when i have done this chameleon and advanced have just gone and copied our ideas and functions.

Dreamsubmitter is built by submitters for submitters, and that alone is why dreamsubmitter will ALWAYS be cutting edge and everyone else will ALWAYS be playing catchup.

If you want the best go with dreamsubmitter and be done with it already.

Pretty lame haha.

I bet half of them didnt even use Chameleon.

Once again i feel bad being negative towards you since you were always really helpful but youre starting to look a bit pathetic man with your yelling and screaming how your software is the best while it simply isnt. It isnt the worst either. Its just a tool to make money and it will be the best if the person using the tool has the best lists and partner accounts. I simply cant understand how you dont understand this. It isnt exactly rocket science. Now pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a minute.

Man, ONE extra partner account at a big site will make up for all the really nice extra tools you have that make a 0.1 difference money wise. Give it up dude.

yelling and screaming? lol actually i replied to you civilly above explaining to you why it would make you more money, and this is the thanks i get? Dude I've been nothing but nice and accomodating towards you, and you have YET to take me up on a 1 on 1 walkthrough of DS, so i am baffled at how you can sit there and condemn me when to be quite honest you haven't even given DS a chance. It seems you are the only one that is CLOSED minded about this whole debate, lets turn the tables shall we? Why do you believe so strongly that chameleon is a better program than DS?

And try to keep the insults out of this, I come here to do business not toss insults back and forth like its highschool. If you want to do that you can bring it up with me in person at the next show.

:2 cents:

so you agree, dreamsubmitter is in your mind 0.1% better than chameleon?

You really dont have a clue what im saying in this thread right?

Better? no More options sure. Utilizing all those options and wasting time and energy to possibly get an extra sale while an extra partner account will get you that extra sale as well that is.

I already picked CS, you may close the thread :)

OH NO, now you will never make as much money as a DS user!

no not really... im not sure what you are argueing as it seems to me you are just disagreeing to be difficult with no basis.