Do some of you guys do anything else besides Bitch about someone or something??? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

MikeHawk · 01-09-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroChick

FUBAR, you are bitching about those who are bitching.

I remember when the booths were huge. AVN wasn't a gorilla. Webmasters weren't cheap. A small number of webmasters were making millions without all the teenage flakes looking for something for nothing.

If you didn't have bitching, there would be no GFY. There would be no controversy, and you, JFK, are protecting your own interests, not mine or the multitudes. If there is too much bitching and nobody shows up, you have no job, my man, so now you are bitching.

Just relax and take your pictures. Bitching is good on the boards, because those who are bitching may get it out of their systems and go home and be decent human beings.

Cheers for all the bitches.

Sounds fair MicroChick...
First..did you go to Vegas?

I think in my opinion ..those who can bitch are those who went....they have a "real reason" to bitch about the show ..or not.

If you did not go, how can you bitch about something you dont know or have not experienced? Its like saying you did not like fucking....when you were still a Virgin...lol

seeric · 01-09-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

A prime recent example of this is the Internext show and all that surrounded it. So the show floor wasnt packed with a bunch of people looking for free T shirts and other handouts, big deal, the attendees who showed up were there to do business. We had a booth, always had someone there getting The FUBAR Times autographed by Jordan and Taylor from Lightspeed Cash. Both myself and Mrs FUBAR talked to quite a number of people over the 3 day span.You work with the people attending, not the ones not there. Its a wonder that some of you make any money, sitting at home behind your keyboard, tearing down what some one is building up

i had an awesome time in vegas. AEE was great.

Brother Bareback · 01-09-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

If you did not go, how can you bitch about something you dont know or have not experienced? Its like saying you did not like fucking....when you were still a Virgin...lol

but if you fucked in the past, you would not be a virgin

i think some people are taking their past experience of going to shows, and applying it to this show (which they may have or have not attended)

you are right though, you can't bitch about something you had nothing to do with....but anyone who has been to internext vegas in the past can see how painfully sad this most recent show was, and people didn't have to be there to see that

in all honesty, i think it would be a good thing for avn to combine AEE and Internext, in vegas at least....and just have like 2-3 hours in the morning for business, then open the flood gates

it seemed like the internext folks had a blast at AEE, so why not combine them?

BV · 01-09-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Sounds fair MicroChick...
First..did you go to Vegas?

I think in my opinion ..those who can bitch are those who went....they have a "real reason" to bitch about the show ..or not.

If you did not go, how can you bitch about something you dont know or have not experienced? Its like saying you did not like fucking....when you were still a Virgin...lol

I don't think Microchick is bitching about the show, MC is bitching about JFK bitchin about people bitching.

j

Brother Bareback · 01-09-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

I don't think Microchick is bitching about the show, MC is bitching about JFK bitchin about people bitching.

j

would they all be bitches then?

ricks · 01-09-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

The question is Who the Fuck are you?

Somebody who makes alot more money than you, and in this business thats all that matters. Fuck reputation, we are all assholes making a quick buck. I'm sure your mother is proud of you now that your picture and personal information is scattered all over the net as a scumbag porn peddler. I'd rather fly under the radar big mouth.

MontrealPimp · 01-09-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

I hope the day comes when i make 10 time the money you do or the same i dont turn into a closed mind ASS like you. Does that come with the money or are you just born that way?

The question is Who the Fuck are you?

I sat with Lars at the show and some other peeps who are real players in this biz and make some "real money" they dont hit me as "low lifes" or "peons" ...

I think i agree with you ...Stay home ....lol

Did you lick their assholes when you sat with them at your little nerd convention?

You are a name dropper just like the rest of the monkees on here that drop names of people in the attempt to seem cool in the eyes of the other apes that are aiming to be just like you.

jokers.

MikeHawk · 01-09-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bareback

but if you fucked in the past, you would not be a virgin

i think some people are taking their past experience of going to shows, and applying it to this show (which they may have or have not attended)

you are right though, you can't bitch about something you had nothing to do with....but anyone who has been to internext vegas in the past can see how painfully sad this most recent show was, and people didn't have to be there to see that

in all honesty, i think it would be a good thing for avn to combine AEE and Internext, in vegas at least....and just have like 2-3 hours in the morning for business, then open the flood gates

it seemed like the internext folks had a blast at AEE, so why not combine them?

Brother Bareback... i would have to agree with you on that, combining both shows would be the way to go.

I walked over to the AEE show and made some very nice deals on content ...and it was fun.

The bottom line is this, i know this will be hard to imagine, but if you told me that VHS was never going to be around years ago..i would have said "bullshit"
Soon DVD is going to be replaced by digital online movies.....Hot Movies had a huge presence at the AVN Awards.....its moving as quick as all high speed is ramping up world wide.

Both shows together would be fun....

MikeHawk · 01-09-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ricks

Somebody who makes alot more money than you, and in this business thats all that matters. Fuck reputation, we are all assholes making a quick buck. I'm sure your mother is proud of you now that your picture and personal information is scattered all over the net as a scumbag porn peddler. I'd rather fly under the radar big mouth.

ricks...."big mouth".....i still dont know who you are....

and really, who cares just how much money you make anyway..its kind of like telling us all just how Big you think you dick is anyway isnt it?

Those who really have it, make it ...dont have to talk about it.....right?

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

Did you lick their assholes when you sat with them at your little nerd convention?

You are a name dropper just like the rest of the monkees on here that drop names of people in the attempt to seem cool in the eyes of the other apes that are aiming to be just like you.

jokers.

...at you in your face......

Brother Bareback · 01-10-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Brother Bareback... i would have to agree with you on that, combining both shows would be the way to go.

I walked over to the AEE show and made some very nice deals on content ...and it was fun.

The bottom line is this, i know this will be hard to imagine, but if you told me that VHS was never going to be around years ago..i would have said "bullshit"
Soon DVD is going to be replaced by digital online movies.....Hot Movies had a huge presence at the AVN Awards.....its moving as quick as all high speed is ramping up world wide.

Both shows together would be fun....

I think the best way they could do that, would the format they had AEE in this year....two levels from what I hear? Do the internet on one level and the video on another level, but make them both equally attractive

I have been to a ton of video side conventions, and to be honest, I fucking love them...everyone there is there to
A. have a blast no matter what
and
B. make money in every way possible

and I agree with what someone else said on another thread, make it like erotica-la too, where companies can sell their shit....can you imagine a fleshlight booth with surfers being able to purchase shit, but also have an office space in the back for future affiliates and wholesale purchasers?

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bareback

I think the best way they could do that, would the format they had AEE in this year....two levels from what I hear? Do the internet on one level and the video on another level, but make them both equally attractive

I have been to a ton of video side conventions, and to be honest, I fucking love them...everyone there is there to
A. have a blast no matter what
and
B. make money in every way possible

and I agree with what someone else said on another thread, make it like erotica-la too, where companies can sell their shit....can you imagine a fleshlight booth with surfers being able to purchase shit, but also have an office space in the back for future affiliates and wholesale purchasers?

I agree 100%............as the years go by things have changed, time to shift with the changes, when i was in the night club/concert biz years ago, same thing you become "old" when you dont adjust or dont listen.

Hey did you know ricks has alot of money? lol

Brother Bareback · 01-10-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

I agree 100%............as the years go by things have changed, time to shift with the changes, when i was in the night club/concert biz years ago, same thing you become "old" when you dont adjust or dont listen.

Hey did you know ricks has alot of money? lol

man, can you imagine....leave the smaller shows as they are, those are great for personal networking and biz, and combine the aee/internext into the largest porn megashow in the world, combining all aspects of the porn industry under one roof...every company every medium

and yeah, i heard ricks has money, not sure where I heard it though

kristin · 01-10-2006, 12:06 AM

There is a VERY simple way to do it that would create more buisness for both sides. Have you ever walked around the AEE show during business hours and talked to the owners and tried to do business? Many of them are old school and don't know how the Internet works, whereas we come in and need the video side, distributors, etc.

Now, what they SHOULD do ... is have both shows on the same week. Take SmashBucks for example since I am using his and Brother Bareback's responses.

SmashBucks could go to the show and exhibit to the webmasters Monday-Wednesday then on Thursday move their booth over, tear down the graphics and replace them and then exhibit to surfers Thursday-Saturday.

This gets both the video and the internet side doing business together Mon-Wed and then has both surfers and movie watchers walking around the whole thing Thurs-Sat.

But no one would ever do that, makes too much sense.

hershie · 01-10-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Nawww man its you that are weak...were you there?

Then you have not a clue to what the man is saying, now me on the other hand i spent 2 days before the show and one day afterward.

This year we did more biz and enjoyed ourselves...i know what JFK is saying..i will say what he means SHUT THE FUCK UP KEY BOARD WARRIORS WHO NEVER LEAVE THERE MAMAS BASEMENTS AND JUST BASH...LOL

I will tell ya ..i stood in the AVN Awards this year just fucking blown away how big and massive it was ...our biz is alive and well.......! Saw it with my own eyes..and it was something i will never ever forget.

No I was not at this one (have been before). But I have the ability to read posts on GFY and apptitude to figure out that a lot of people were dissapointed with the turn out on the show floor and that JFK's argument and slur against anyone that didn't see it that way is flawed and that is what I pointed out. I am happy you did more biz this year - see I am not a basher, but you seem to be a big mouth calling me "weak".

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

There is a VERY simple way to do it that would create more buisness for both sides. Have you ever walked around the AEE show during business hours and talked to the owners and tried to do business? Many of them are old school and don't know how the Internet works, whereas we come in and need the video side, distributors, etc.

Now, what they SHOULD do ... is have both shows on the same week. Take SmashBucks for example since I am using his and Brother Bareback's responses.

SmashBucks could go to the show and exhibit to the webmasters Monday-Wednesday then on Thursday move their booth over, tear down the graphics and replace them and then exhibit to surfers Thursday-Saturday.

This gets both the video and the internet side doing business together Mon-Wed and then has both surfers and movie watchers walking around the whole thing Thurs-Sat.

But no one would ever do that, makes too much sense.

kristin...you are so right, i made deal with some of the Original old schoolers over there at the AEE show, but i had already been talking to them months ahead of time.

Not tearing down anything, but what could be done is making sample CD's trackable with all great "teaser content" on them etc...why CD ..its trackable....easy and cheap. Cheaper than tshirts or other nonsense.

Smashbucks did the live broadcast in conjunction with AVN, Legendary Lars, Adult Friend Finder, and Oc 3 networks ...that worked nicely to the webmasters in the world that either did not go to the show or just wanted to watch from a far.

As for AEE, no way, it had to be face to face and shaking of the hands, that was the magic that closed our deals with some of these truly old school studios.

You are thinking the right thing...there was great biz to be had at Internext, but combining the two for us, would totaly make it fun!

SomeCreep · 01-10-2006, 12:24 AM

I dont see it as bitching, I see it as criticism. Perhaps the criticism will cause change for the better.

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hershie

No I was not at this one (have been before). But I have the ability to read posts on GFY and apptitude to figure out that a lot of people were dissapointed with the turn out on the show floor and that JFK's argument and slur against anyone that didn't see it that way is flawed and that is what I pointed out. I am happy you did more biz this year - see I am not a basher, but you seem to be a big mouth calling me "weak".

hershie...i used the word "weak" from the post of yours.....

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Originally Posted by hershie

That logic is weak. Just put on rose-coloured glasses and all will be OK.

hershie · 01-10-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

hershie...i used the word "weak" from the post of yours.....

Yes but I was calling an argument weak not a person. Anyway, I appreciated InternextLive and all the effort you guys must have put into it. I watched all 3 days.

nastyboy1 · 01-10-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Nawww man its you that are weak...were you there?

Then you have not a clue to what the man is saying, now me on the other hand i spent 2 days before the show and one day afterward.

This year we did more biz and enjoyed ourselves...i know what JFK is saying..i will say what he means SHUT THE FUCK UP KEY BOARD WARRIORS WHO NEVER LEAVE THERE MAMAS BASEMENTS AND JUST BASH...LOL

I will tell ya ..i stood in the AVN Awards this year just fucking blown away how big and massive it was ...our biz is alive and well.......! Saw it with my own eyes..and it was something i will never ever forget.

Agreed brotha!

kristin · 01-10-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

kristin...you are so right, i made deal with some of the Original old schoolers over there at the AEE show, but i had already been talking to them months ahead of time.

Not tearing down anything, but what could be done is making sample CD's trackable with all great "teaser content" on them etc...why CD ..its trackable....easy and cheap. Cheaper than tshirts or other nonsense.

Having it done this way makes booths much more reasonable as well. We did a booth a couple years back and I've never used it since. It just sits in storage. Now, if I were to exhibit again and be able to use that to market to webmasters and then just be able to change graphics to market to surfers, I'd be a hell of a lot happier. Graphics are much cheaper to produce than an entire booth.

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hershie

Yes but I was calling an argument weak not a person. Anyway, I appreciated InternextLive and all the effort you guys must have put into it. I watched all 3 days.

hershie..... Its "GFY"..sorry man...glad you enjoyed we worked hard to get that going for everyone..it was a blast.

baddog · 01-10-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bareback

in all honesty, i think it would be a good thing for avn to combine AEE and Internext, in vegas at least....and just have like 2-3 hours in the morning for business, then open the flood gates

No!!! Give the surfers the morning, then kick them out . . . our nights last too far into the morning.

Better idea would be 2-3 days of biz, then open to public

je_rome · 01-10-2006, 01:12 AM

IMHO misery loves company

Brother Bareback · 01-10-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No!!! Give the surfers the morning, then kick them out . . . our nights last too far into the morning.

Better idea would be 2-3 days of biz, then open to public

haha, yeah, i thought about the nights...like leave it open to consumers til 4pm, then 4:30-7 is business only.....but in all honesty, if you were running a booth, would want to deal with consumers all day, and then have to finally get to do business after you were totally worn out from the craziness of the consumer rampage?

plus, it would be practicly impossible to monitor the badge situation with consumers in morning then clearing them out, much easier to do business first then consumers

Brother Bareback · 01-10-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by je_rome

IMHO misery loves company

IMO, sig whores love being hated

V_RocKs · 01-10-2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No!!! Give the surfers the morning, then kick them out . . . our nights last too far into the morning.

Better idea would be 2-3 days of biz, then open to public

Interesting...

Wed - Thur = Internext
Fri - Sat = AEE + Internext with us changing our format to be geared more towards the surfers...

JFK · 01-10-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I dont see it as bitching, I see it as criticism. Perhaps the criticism will cause change for the better.

No matter what you change , it could be the perfect scenario for all concerned and you would still find people bitching about something.
As Mike has mentioned , Yes at this point and time the two shows should be combined, have it in the same room , with a trade only area for internext, where all the video guys and others would have access.It could be opened up to sufers at specific times of ther day. Now watch the bitching start about Internext being in March next year.So many people have asked the show to be moved off the January date, now that they have done it, let the whining begin

Jace · 01-10-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

As Mike has mentioned , Yes at this point and time the two shows should be combined,:

actually, i think brother bareback was the one who mentioned that

Cyndalie · 01-10-2006, 06:50 AM

JFK, I finally got a copy of the Fubar Times - Congrats man! The mag looks great and the centefold is HOTTTT!!! Excellent work!

Nembrionic · 01-10-2006, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

A prime recent example of this is the Internext show and all that surrounded it. So the show floor wasnt packed with a bunch of people looking for free T shirts and other handouts, big deal, the attendees who showed up were there to do business. We had a booth, always had someone there getting The FUBAR Times autographed by Jordan and Taylor from Lightspeed Cash. Both myself and Mrs FUBAR talked to quite a number of people over the 3 day span.You work with the people attending, not the ones not there. Its a wonder that some of you make any money, sitting at home behind your keyboard, tearing down what some one is building up

Apart from the irony here, I think you're absolutely right.

TreasureBucks · 01-10-2006, 07:43 AM

No bitching from me.

I enjoyed the show.

I was finally able to do some real business with people, without having to fight for their time and attention.

Hats off to Topbucks, for sponsoring the V-Bar. The fucking prawns were huge!! and you could actually talk to someone without music destroying your ear drums.

WiredGuy · 01-10-2006, 08:59 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how to make money at this SEO thing.
WG

Jay · 01-10-2006, 09:29 AM

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I'm still trying to figure out how to make money at this SEO thing.
WG

Well, having that empty booth space across from us probably didn't help.

...UNWired, lol

JFK · 01-10-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

actually, i think brother bareback was the one who mentioned that

sorry about that, you do have to give credit, where credit it due

WiredGuy · 01-10-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Well, having that empty booth space across from us probably didn't help.

...UNWired, lol

hahaha, I figure the way I pitched it was I could afford the booth space but not to actually exhibit, lol. I would just stand there and say all day, no money in seo, just look at the booth! LOL

WG

JFK · 01-10-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

JFK, I finally got a copy of the Fubar Times - Congrats man! The mag looks great and the centefold is HOTTTT!!! Excellent work!

Thanks Cyndalie

Cory W · 01-10-2006, 10:02 AM

Show floor? Not very packed, but that doesn't mean it didn't work out for those that had booths.

Attendance was up. Very up.

In essence, opportunity existed, it was just a matter of taking advantage of those opportunities in ways that made sense.

Dollarmansteve · 01-10-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bareback

isn't it always better to do business with a ton of people, and not be forced to do business with only the small amount there? seems like a wierd rationale to me man, I would rather a packed house and tons of business, then have to settle for something else

No, its not. Working for a sponsor program, more people on the show floor means me wasting more of my time talking to people trying to sell me content or hosting or some 'new idea' that is going to 'change the industry' (lol).... or total noobs trying to use me as a consultant so they can get thier start in the adult business (and I dont mean newbie webmasters.. I mean people from 'mainstream' with some cash to spend and think that they can just waltz into adult and make money.. I started telling them i charge $250/hr for consultation..)

The ideal show floor for me personally is a less-busy one with a good group of quality people with traffic whom i can make deals with. If I come away from a show with just 1 traffic deal for maybe 10 sign-ups per day, that is a successful show. Not to mention the less busy the floor the more chances I get to visit other sponsors' booths (who we do alot of business with) and chat with them.

Jace · 01-10-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

No, its not. Working for a sponsor program, more people on the show floor means me wasting more of my time talking to people trying to sell me content or hosting or some 'new idea' that is going to 'change the industry' (lol).... or total noobs trying to use me as a consultant so they can get thier start in the adult business (and I dont mean newbie webmasters.. I mean people from 'mainstream' with some cash to spend and think that they can just waltz into adult and make money.. I started telling them i charge $250/hr for consultation..)

The ideal show floor for me personally is a less-busy one with a good group of quality people with traffic whom i can make deals with. If I come away from a show with just 1 traffic deal for maybe 10 sign-ups per day, that is a successful show. Not to mention the less busy the floor the more chances I get to visit other sponsors' booths (who we do alot of business with) and chat with them.

see, i can agree with that....but I also can agree with brother bareback

if I worked for someone and needed to get quality leads, i would be in your shoes....but being the person that owns what I am trying to sell, I would want tons of people and lure them all in with something sparkly, in hopes that 10-20% stayed on for the long run because I know how to treat em'

Jace · 01-10-2006, 10:29 AM

oh, and don't take what I just said as you not knowing how to treat people, i didn't mean that at all, it came out wrong

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

actually, i think brother bareback was the one who mentioned that

Give that man a prize..lol

Its a good idea and yes should be considered..times have changed and they are a changin...in this biz someone told me way back 6 months is like 2 years....things move fast.

In my opinion if the studios are not doing biz with the internet companies is a big waste of time, the seperation between the 2 doing biz is huge, but the reality of the biz is very close. Old school minds over there in "studio land" guys like James from Hot movies and AEBN are changing minds ...the way we watch media is changing before our eyes..

As i said in just amazment of the AVN awards, what went thru my mind was the "future" what is it? Not just for Internext but the entire biz as a whole?

I am talking about DVD...will it end up in the same place as VHS? It would seem to be moving quickly that direction, then i ask myself, why do i see this and all these major studios dont?

The next big thing.....its moving right in front of our noses......

Combining both shows would be super exciting for us personaly, we are moving that direction anyway...as i said we made some monster deals with some studio at AEE.

Anyway that is my

MikeHawk · 01-10-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Show floor? Not very packed, but that doesn't mean it didn't work out for those that had booths.

Attendance was up. Very up.

In essence, opportunity existed, it was just a matter of taking advantage of those opportunities in ways that made sense.

Cory..you are 100% right...Smashbucks did some great biz........had time to talk to each an every person.

What is funny above someone talks about talking to NOOBS...and wasting his time or wanting to charge a consulting fee....lol This cracks me up, cause we were noobs once, and the people that helped us we never forgot and do deals with. That is what building great relationships is all about.

and again.....AVN AWARDS SHOW...was totaly off the hook....anyone on this board sitting in here dark little room needed to be there to witness just how fucking huge our biz is....first hand i can tell you seeing that blew me away.

Eveyone again: The Adult biz is alive and well...and not going anywhere soon!

seeric · 01-10-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

Did you lick their assholes when you sat with them at your little nerd convention?

You are a name dropper just like the rest of the monkees on here that drop names of people in the attempt to seem cool in the eyes of the other apes that are aiming to be just like you.

jokers.

clueless.

why don't you people use your real nicks?

classless.

JFK · 01-10-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Give that man a prize..lol

Its a good idea and yes should be considered..times have changed and they are a changin...in this biz someone told me way back 6 months is like 2 years....things move fast.

In my opinion if the studios are not doing biz with the internet companies is a big waste of time, the seperation between the 2 doing biz is huge, but the reality of the biz is very close. Old school minds over there in "studio land" guys like James from Hot movies and AEBN are changing minds ...the way we watch media is changing before our eyes..

As i said in just amazment of the AVN awards, what went thru my mind was the "future" what is it? Not just for Internext but the entire biz as a whole?

I am talking about DVD...will it end up in the same place as VHS? It would seem to be moving quickly that direction, then i ask myself, why do i see this and all these major studios dont?

The next big thing.....its moving right in front of our noses......

Combining both shows would be super exciting for us personaly, we are moving that direction anyway...as i said we made some monster deals with some studio at AEE.

Anyway that is my

"the seperation between the 2 doing biz is huge, but the reality of the biz is very close. Old school minds over there in "studio land" guys like James from Hot movies and AEBN are changing minds ...the way we watch media is changing before our eyes.."

Right on Mike

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kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	There is a VERY simple way to do it that would create more buisness for both sides. Have you ever walked around the AEE show during business hours and talked to the owners and tried to do business? Many of them are old school and don't know how the Internet works, whereas we come in and need the video side, distributors, etc. Now, what they SHOULD do ... is have both shows on the same week. Take SmashBucks for example since I am using his and Brother Bareback's responses. SmashBucks could go to the show and exhibit to the webmasters Monday-Wednesday then on Thursday move their booth over, tear down the graphics and replace them and then exhibit to surfers Thursday-Saturday. This gets both the video and the internet side doing business together Mon-Wed and then has both surfers and movie watchers walking around the whole thing Thurs-Sat. But no one would ever do that, makes too much sense. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

01-10-2006, 12:24 AM	#67
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	I dont see it as bitching, I see it as criticism. Perhaps the criticism will cause change for the better. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

01-10-2006, 01:12 AM	#74
je_rome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,846	IMHO misery loves company __________________ Make money on any traffic. Join KlikRevenue.com Today!

01-10-2006, 06:50 AM	#80
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	JFK, I finally got a copy of the Fubar Times - Congrats man! The mag looks great and the centefold is HOTTTT!!! Excellent work! __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

01-10-2006, 07:43 AM	#82
TreasureBucks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,971	No bitching from me. I enjoyed the show. I was finally able to do some real business with people, without having to fight for their time and attention. Hats off to Topbucks, for sponsoring the V-Bar. The fucking prawns were huge!! and you could actually talk to someone without music destroying your ear drums. __________________ TREASUREBUCKS.COM

01-10-2006, 08:59 AM	#83
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I'm still trying to figure out how to make money at this SEO thing. WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-10-2006, 10:02 AM	#88
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Show floor? Not very packed, but that doesn't mean it didn't work out for those that had booths. Attendance was up. Very up. In essence, opportunity existed, it was just a matter of taking advantage of those opportunities in ways that made sense. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

01-10-2006, 10:29 AM	#91
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	oh, and don't take what I just said as you not knowing how to treat people, i didn't mean that at all, it came out wrong