Do some of you guys do anything else besides Bitch about someone or something???
 

A prime recent example of this is the Internext show and all that surrounded it. So the show floor wasnt packed with a bunch of people looking for free T shirts and other handouts, big deal, the attendees who showed up were there to do business. We had a booth, always had someone there getting The FUBAR Times autographed by Jordan and Taylor from Lightspeed Cash. Both myself and Mrs FUBAR talked to quite a number of people over the 3 day span.You work with the people attending, not the ones not there. Its a wonder that some of you make any money, sitting at home behind your keyboard, tearing down what some one is building up :2 cents:

JFK i congratulate you, as this will surely be 3-5 pages

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isn't it always better to do business with a ton of people, and not be forced to do business with only the small amount there? seems like a wierd rationale to me man, I would rather a packed house and tons of business, then have to settle for something else

yeah, some people should work more and bitch less I agree =)

you are bitching?

I would imagine that the sponsors with huge ass booths would have a right to bitch.

I have sex....

So why bother letting them know? :winkwink:

Some people have nothing better to do than bitch and whine about something they can't change

a packed house doesnt necessarily mean alot of business.

its obvious you havent been to a show before or else you wouldve understood what JFK posted.

That logic is weak. Just put on rose-coloured glasses and all will be OK.

Excellent post JFK, and funny thing is the ones bitching the most have no idea what they missed LOL

I think what the main bitch is is that people are drawn to the trade shows yearly for the goal of doing business, when it costs so much to attend, exhibit, etc one has to break down the ROI on it and when that ROI isn't made, bitching begins. A show is what you make of it and I think what most are realizing is that shows are not bringing in the business that it use to.

So when one pays X amount of dollars to attend a show to get business done and the show floor is empty, then yes, people do have something to bitch about.

AVN has done a great job over the last few years of killing what use to be the best show. What you didn't hear bitches about were the parties, dinners, etc.

Thanks :winkwink:

did you attend?

i was there and did business as always...i just have made sure over the years to avoid the FUBAR camera and not have my picture taken :1orglaugh

you can run but you cant hide..............one year ....... :winkwink:

BTW, the FUBAR times looked great :thumbsup

the business of bithn and pimping!

lol...you'd be surprised...at the GG&J party i was in a corner, watching you walk around and shoot other people and making sure to stay out of the line of fire, not to be caught by accident :winkwink:

We were there and appreciate that you were. :thumbsup

Jesus christ what kind of a thread is this?!

I walked away from this show with six pages of notes, and it cost less than $300 for me total including gas for the drive out there. That's a pretty good ROI.

hmmm which corner??? :waaaaahh

not tellin' :pimp

Thanks Mike, next issue in time for The Phoenix Forum, will be bigger and better :thumbsup

sounds good, and i'll stay out of camera range then too :winkwink:

I will make sure to cover all corners:Graucho

I find it a good idea to stay downwind from JFK if you're avoiding his lens...I swear he's like a bloodhound :winkwink:

Jules...thank you soooooo much for your hospitality at the FUBAR booth in Vegas. Both Taylor Little and Jordan Capri had a fantastic time and it was in large part to the two of you...they both had sore arms from signing copies of the FubarTimes for everyone!! And from what I saw there weren't many of those left at the end of day 3...congrats to you and Mrs. Fubar again :)

okay you two, get a room already :1orglaugh

Of course, you are very well connected in this industry, imagine the ROI for those who have been in this business, but have not attended shows in the past, or for newere webmasters etc.

It's all relative. I said it in another thread by Cory, just because your venture was succesful does not mean INTERNEXT the show met it's goals.

I don't know what people really expected with such an expensive show and so many other distractions - the parties, Vegas itself, etc.

Any trade show is what YOU make it. Those that wanted to business I'm sure did and came away happy.

I'm positive that I make alot more money than you and I've never been to a show. There are only a few people worth dealing with in this business, everybody else is a waste of time. Why expose yourself to the world as porn peddling lowlife? Personally, I'd rather stay home and make my millions quietly while all the peons at the shows take all the heat.

I second that rick, not just because we deal with eachother in real life on a daily basis, but that I feel the same way, I have never set foot in any of those shows and never plan too. It is funny however to see how many peons feel the need to go to them in the hopes that they will be seen as some sort of "player" when in reality, it is really quite evident that the vast majority are mearly trying to hard to be something they are not. Ricks is perhaps one out of 2 of the other multi millionaires that I deal with regularly that use gfy and or are tied in somehow to this industry. Yes 2.

Most of the regulars that I have talked to from here are full of shit when it comes to real life.

that isn't true at all, I have been to plenty of shows.....just seems silly to me to defend a show that obviously wasn't all it should have been...yeah, of course business was done at the show, as it always has been and always will be, but as a business man, it makes more sense to me to market to the MASSES, not the FEW

i think it is all a matter of preference really, I personally would love to stand up in a crowd of 1000 and tell everyone about my product, while others would like to sit with a few people and discuss the product

more power to you :thumbsup

you know, i just realized something

I hate everything when I post to forums, but I love everything in real life

maybe I should just stop posting to forums, cause negativity doesn't suit me very well

Its nice when you work for someone else, it would of cost us 3 grand lol

Expose yourself to who?
The only heat I've gotten at any show was from the sun :)

Besides, if you're afraid to show your face to fellow "lowlifes" ... and consider people in the industry I assume you work in as such, then you're probably better off staying at home with your "millions".

I can see that one doesnt have to go to shows to do well but my main motivation for going would be seeing people I know and meeting cool people. On the internet side I have found everyone is very friendly and cool. Also a FYI if your making millions in Adult they know who you are already lol

Nawww man its you that are weak...were you there?


Then you have not a clue to what the man is saying, now me on the other hand i spent 2 days before the show and one day afterward.

This year we did more biz and enjoyed ourselves...i know what JFK is saying..i will say what he means SHUT THE FUCK UP KEY BOARD WARRIORS WHO NEVER LEAVE THERE MAMAS BASEMENTS AND JUST BASH...LOL

I will tell ya ..i stood in the AVN Awards this year just fucking blown away how big and massive it was ...our biz is alive and well.......! Saw it with my own eyes..and it was something i will never ever forget.

is high school still out on winter break?? i hope it starts soon so we don't have to read your crap anymore.

thats twice tonight i've read posts where you've spoken poorly about two good men in our industry...

go away, please !

The show is what you make of it, I had a blast and it was great seeing you and Sandy JFK! :)

I think people live to bash this show because it helps them justify the reason why they could'nt afford to go and pay the price to attend. I for one have never lost money attending a tradeshow but I am in a different part of the market than most.

DH

I agree with that.

Come on and tell us why you really dont come: Socialy retarded..or maybe a really Ugly mofo?

Saying you never set foot in a show only tells everyone what a closed minded ASS you really are...lol...that is right i am laughing in your face right now....

Here is the best part....its you that is FULL OF SHIT talking about something you have never first hand experienced. LOL...now i am really laughing in your face...lol

Precisely

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I hope the day comes when i make 10 time the money you do or the same i dont turn into a closed mind ASS like you. Does that come with the money or are you just born that way?

The question is Who the Fuck are you?

I sat with Lars at the show and some other peeps who are real players in this biz and make some "real money" they dont hit me as "low lifes" or "peons" ...

I think i agree with you ...Stay home ....lol

Take what heat?

Some of us work for ourselves and get out a lot cheaper than that.

FUBAR, you are bitching about those who are bitching.

I remember when the booths were huge. AVN wasn't a gorilla. Webmasters weren't cheap. A small number of webmasters were making millions without all the teenage flakes looking for something for nothing.

If you didn't have bitching, there would be no GFY. There would be no controversy, and you, JFK, are protecting your own interests, not mine or the multitudes. If there is too much bitching and nobody shows up, you have no job, my man, so now you are bitching.

Just relax and take your pictures. Bitching is good on the boards, because those who are bitching may get it out of their systems and go home and be decent human beings.

Cheers for all the bitches. :thumbsup