class action law suit?
ibill owes us money.
lets get another judgment against them so the courts will force them into bankruptcy and hopefully put them out of business.
i am glad this makes sence to all of you.
or how about this one:
lets tell every one to stop sending ibill traffic so they cant make any money and they will go out of busines.they owe us lots of money.
i love reading these boards,makes me wonder why i go to work every day.
lets all get together and closs ibill.
they owe us money........
it's not to hard to find the people who spent your money.they aint at ibill anymore.
i just cant understand why the current owners are trying to save a business that the majority of the people that they are tring to pay off are working so hard to shut them down.
i hope you people get all of your hard earned money,and believe it or not so do the current owners of ibill.

Another iBill shill? Know your facts before you come on here and spout that shit. The current owners are indeed the people who spent the money. Ownership never changed. Stock moved back and forth but the people holding the paper is the same. Yeah on paper IBDI now owns iBill, but take a look at who owns IBDI.

the neverending story - sigh!

good outlook!


some is better then none

Back in the early 80s I worked for my father's contracting company for a few summers. One summer he was sub-contracted by another local contractor to refurbish some offices in an old aluminum smelter. We spent two weeks completing the job...under the shittiest working conditions you can't even imagine. Every day was hell whenever they fired up the big smelting furnaces and filled the air in the plant with smoke for hours.

I still remember the day the contractor showed up on the job site in his truck, and casually mentioned to us about the four new tires he'd just bought for his Chev pickup. He had us come outside to check'em out even, while proudly mentioning they cost him about $1,200 bucks.

After finishing the work, we submitted a bill to the contractor. A month went by before we received a letter from the guy, stating that he wouldn't be able to pay us...since he never got paid by the owner of the smelter.

We attempted several times to get the money from him after that, with no luck. So we went to Small Claims court and filed against him. The clerk told us, "Good luck, get in line. There's at least a dozen other sub-contractors like yourselves waiting to collect from this guy. He's a real deadbeat." Nonetheless, we put a garnishee on his bank accounts - but only ever ended up collecting about $200 out of the $2,800 he owed us after about a year.

A few years went by and we mostly forgot about the issue. Until one day I saw him driving around town in his pickup truck. I watched from across the street as he pulled in to the local grocery store parking lot, park his truck...and make his way in to the store. I was with my brother-in-law at the time in his pickup truck - so I asked to borrow the buckknife that I knew he always carried on his belt. With the knife in my jacket pocket, I walked across the street to the grocery store parking lot, walked up the the contractor's truck...and proceeded to put the buckknife into the sidewall of all four of his truck tires...lowering the entire truck to the ground on its rims. It was the middle of the afternoon, with a few customers scattered around the parking lot - but I didn't care. No one seemed to notice, and if they did...they didn't say anything.

So with regards to iBill. It may take years...but eventually some sort of justice will hopefully be served...by someone...sometime, in one form or another. People have long memories.

There will always be opportunities.

I'm a firm believer in 'what goes around...eventually comes around.'

Well put Knight. To quote a great movie, "The universe tends to unfold as it should."

Bump and sig spot.

the industry doesn't work like that - well at least not any more - but this is exactly why IBill and those like them get away with shit like this, the industry is too busy pissing on each other than forming a coalition against those that do it wrong. I am happy to see this - standing together to fight for what is right. Ibill has gone on long enough thinking webmasters are idiots that will believe everything and anything written on the net by lying and making excuses. They don't have to deal with us face to face until they see court doc's in front of them.

It amazes me that trolls like this are even allowed to live, there parents should have stamped on them at birth.
Its already been established by Mac Daddy that Iball's new owners are the same as the old owners hidden under a different corporate umbrella, Any monies paid out to Iball's by First Data has gone or is being used to keep Iball's personnel paid while they fleece more money from hard working webmasters and sponsors. Why the fuck should we be expected to send Iball's joins just to keep their scam alive, they want us to support them after its been proven time after time they are stealing from us. It shows extremely poor management skills for them to reopen Iball's without any idea how they are going to pay back the millions illegally withheld from webmasters. Did they really think webmasters would do this for them ? that is so naive.

The only people to have gotten serious money from Iball's are those that went after them when they stopped paying in September 2004 . A number of those people where also posting on GFY about how great Iball's was while secretly suing them ( after all if they made it public they where taking legal action every one would jump on the band wagon and there would be little left to pay them ?) Unless Iball's gets a huge injection of cash and pays out every last cent owing to webmasters by March 15th, when corporate taxes returns are due, i don't see them staying in business after that date..

We would be interested in coming aboard !!

Your understanding is incorrect. The owners of Segpay also have an interest in a company named Toccata. Toccata negotiated with the banks on IBill's behalf in order to get what little funds released that have been released.

Some of the people that used to WORK for Ibill now work for Segpay, but not the owners. As for the people that used to work for Ibill and now work at Segpay, this is not their fault. They lost their jobs, and they needed new jobs. They know the billing side of the industry so they stayed in the fields that they knew.

You are wrong about SegPay, they are good people over there.:2 cents:

Agree sperbonzo! :thumbsup

Don't do this often, but will with the people in and behind Segpay/Toccata. Their background and track record speaks for itself and they are honorable people.

At least one of whom went further than anyone could expect an individual to do and took the effort and time to extracate many webmasters from iBill and see they got paid. I'll raise my hat to anyone willing to go to these lengths and no question of dealing with folks like that in business.

Absolutely correct. Nice post, just cause someone once worked for iBill doesn't mean they were part of why what happened did. There are a lot of really good ex-iBillers who were there from the start and truly understand the billing business yet had no fault in the downfall. I should know, as I am one of them :)

Thanks Webby!!! I am still waiting for my ICQ chat :winkwink: 234-382-798

bump time again

This should teach everyone one thing... you CANNOT beat the reliability and history of...

www.CCBILL.com


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Starting on April 1 2006, clients using IBILL will be lining up to join this lawsuit. I say April 1 because every webmaster owed money by IBILL is waiting for them to pay on March 29 as promsied.

MESSAGE TO THE ASSHOLES AT IBILL: If you dont pay us on March 29 what you promised us last year, we will put you out of business by May 1.

I think it is about time to put this dying, suffering dog to sleep.

Let's get this thing going...They owe us $10,000 +
We need to find about eight willing participates

the only people who win in class action suits are the lawyers .