They owe us a considerable sum....so I'm with you. Contingency all the way.

bump for a good case! I wanna see the result of this!!

Who are the idiotic small-minded business rejects that run Ibill anyway?

Talk about running a potential goldmine into the ground! WTF !

I hope you guys get every dime you are owed plus interest from Ibill.

Not owed enough to join huh. :1orglaugh

Don't tell will76 that. :1orglaugh

i am a GFY sneetch. sounds like just the kind of company i want to use for processing.

What surprised me was the lack of any drama at the show by their stand. If they had of stiffed me they would of had me standing in the next booth telling people the truth.

But another bump for a good cause.

Go get them and good luck.

Ok, A few good points have been brought up here. Let me explain a little bit more here....

From my understanding, the old owners of ibill are gone and left with our money. They started up a new billing company called SEGPAY. Anyone processing with them should be warned.

My lawyers are still looking into who to go after, whether its the new owners or the old ones for our $$$.

We can not only sue for what is owed to us, but we can sue for damages, loss of sales, and mental distress, so the numbers of what the new ibill says they owe us are very low.

I dont want to give out too much info on the boards because of trolls and ratts. So hit me up on icq if you are interested in joining. I just need your info right now, and i will get back with you as soon as the lawyers look into it deeper. So send me an email or hit me up on icq. =)

50 kicks to ibills groin

Its good to see people take action. *two thumbs up*

i was injured by just reading this thread can i sue because of that?

Scottie - You are misinformed. The old owners of iBill are the current owners of iBill. There was no change in ownership, just a reverse merger. Stock moved from one company to another, but the same people hold the stock.

The people at SegPay had nothing to do with the money not being paid by iBill. You should really know your facts before you come on here and trash a company like that.

You are misinformed Scottie. There are former ibill employees here at SegPay - none of which had previous ownership in ibill. We all left due to the mis management of the current owners (IBD and PHSL). I am hitting you up on ICQ now if you would like to chat about it more.

If im not mistaken he was given this info from an ibill rep.....

Aside from that the bottom line is something needs to be done and taking action is the first step in the right direction.

Isn't the first payment supposed to be this March? Why not wait until we see if they follow thru with that, then start the lawsuit?

your sig is fucking awesome... didn't notice the whole thing til now.. ha ha ha, that'll teach that fucker.

100% correct MacD! :thumbsup

iBill is iBill irrespective of the paper shuffling.

It's obvious certain sources of information are unreliable PB and this type of stuff really needs checking out before making claims.

It is useful to know exactly who action is supposed to be taken against and they remain the same parties, - companies and individuals, - who are shareholders, "consultants", corporate officers and vague "hangers on". MacDaddyPlaya is correct in the invention of "new owners" - that's just corporate abuse, semantics and paper-shuffling.

If that is true, then i'm sorry for bringing SEGPAY into this whole thing. That was just the information I was given by 2 seperate individuals. My appologies if this is not correct.

I totally understand that i was just backing up apples :-)

There is sooooooooo much we dont know about ibill and the people behind it. Getting something like a class action lawsuit will help us get the correct information and a step in getting people paid. :upsidedow

suprised nobody has hired some thugs to hand out pistol-whippings

I am all for taking action. You just need to make sure you verify your facts before you come on here and shit on someone.

I totally appreciate you backing up your man Barbie, but he was misinformed. Just glad we were able to straighten it out. Just another dose of bullshit from the good people at iBill.

Get quick guys, the wolves are out... http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/2/11/16207/9517 .

I'm involved in a big lawsuit (business but not web related) so make sure you know you can get dollars from the persons or company you are suing.

Lyn

Shit happens and i dont have my heart set on SEGPAY being ex owners of ibill. :winkwink:

as i was trying to state.... We as a community need facts and correct information its a shame what has happend to ibill and something needs to be done IS the bottom line.

Between ibill and 2257 regulation changes this is a time for the webmaster community to stick together and help each other out. Thank you for pointing out we were told wrong. BUT back to the main issue is people need to get paid!

AMEN! :thumbsup

That's an old article by Lawrence Kiminski, but you have a valid point in that other events can overtake any class action being proposed.

There are serious issues with iBill.. and others who have participated in certain positions/ Irrespective of the future existance of iBill, these folks need to be pursued. They have done considerable damage to many people all round - and not just within iBill as a company - and to values in excess of any value placed in iBill in it's heyday.

I can understand that none of the employees had previous "ownership" of IBILL , but what i find ironic is that your Using INTECA wich happens to be the same Company IBILL/IBD is currently using to fund GKARD payments? When IBILL/GKARd does decide to pay the wires are from "INTECA"..Maybe this is where the confusion over the IBILL/SEGPAY connection is coming from?Maybe its the Chris Williams connection is he in anyway a part of SEGPAY ? Maybe you can help explain these connections? :helpme


Taken From SEGPAY.com : About SegPay

SegPay is a wholly owned subsidiary of Toccata Ltd, a U.K. financial services company. SegPay is an entirely new way for webmasters to view their payment security on the Internet. The traditional IPSP typically held client funds for up to one month before releasing to their clients for payout. Under the SegPay model, all client funds are held by the bank until the time of payout. SegPay has contracted with Inteca " (www.inteca.org) " :warning to provide a third party audit function on client funds owed as well as facilitate the release of these funds. This way, merchants can sleep at night knowing that their funds are safe and will be paid.

[QUOTE=Booger]I can understand that none of the employees had previous "ownership" of IBILL , but what i find ironic is that your Using INTECA wich happens to be the same Company IBILL/IBD is currently using to fund GKARD payments? When IBILL/GKARd does decide to pay the wires are from "INTECA"..Maybe this is where the confusion over the IBILL/SEGPAY connection is coming from?Maybe its the Chris Williams connection is he in anyway a part of SEGPAY ? Maybe you can help explain these connections? :helpme [QUOTE=Booger]


Booger ~

SegPay does use Inteca, which is a non profit organization. It is correct iBill Europe?s processor used Inteca to settle with iBill EU merchants. Inteca does not facilitate gkard or iBill US payments and never has. iBill chose not to continue their EU merchant processing relationship and therefore their relationship with Inteca ended. Inteca continued to make payments on all outstanding reserves that were due to the iBill EU merchants even after the relationship ended. It is my understanding that gkard payments are being paid by Symmetrix.

Feel free to contact me directly with any other questions! :thumbsup

Count me in, IM owed about $10K to 15K. Please post here on how I can reach you

see sig for contact info.

This ship sailed a long time ago folks.

Sure you can go to court and win a judgement....it's an open and shut case.
However if the company doesn't have the money to pay you, you'll never see a cent.
If the piece of paper the judgement is written on makes you feel better then fine, because that's all you're going to get. You're standing at the back of a very long line of people waiting to collect money, and they all hold one of those nifty pieces of paper that has the word judgement on it also.

That piece of paper and 3.50 will get you a latte at starbucks.

believe it or not, plenty of people were paid in full. the trick was to sue the first week it happened.

Duke

Most people just like to complain:1orglaugh

This is a very interesting thread wonder how it plays out..

Good luck :thumbsup

bump for scottie.

Count me in. I will look for you on icq, my email addy is [email protected] They owe me in the neighborhood of 20k. If I see any of it without throwing good money after bad, I'd be thrilled. :-)

Cheyenne

Aren't they still in business and even announcing new products? Maybe they don't have the money to pay everyone they owe but how are they staying in business?

Cheyenne

Gimme my money

bump it up

Goto this link

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/572844-demend-heard.html

here's a bump.