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$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

You could tell by looking at the floor last year things were changing...a lot of companies that normally show didn't show...and I'm sure they weren't there again this year.

A few people keep trying to justify their internext experience this year, making claims that they did plenty of business.

I'm sure they did. You didn't buy a booth and you just networked at parties, you can still get business going.

But imagine spending the 10's of $1,000's those with booths did, and see if you can justify those expenditures when compared to your actual ROI.

Instead of giving shout outs to people you hung out at with parties, you should as a visitor of this lame event be on the phone, or writing emails so this business opportunity will be available to you in the future.

That is exactly the biggest problem. AVN failed to attract bigger players to the show, people who would usually exhibit at both shows, now only exhibited @ AEE, or not exhibited at all.

Few companies to mention:
CCBill
ARS
TopBucks
Hustler
Penthouse
Even ADULT.com/Playboy did nothing like usual.

JFK · 01-09-2006, 03:31 PM

fitty one

eroswebmaster · 01-09-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

That is exactly the biggest problem. AVN failed to attract bigger players to the show, people who would usually exhibit at both shows, now only exhibited @ AEE, or not exhibited at all.

Few companies to mention:
CCBill
ARS
TopBucks
Hustler
Penthouse
Even ADULT.com/Playboy did nothing like usual.

Yeah adult.com, and ARS I know weren't there last year, in fact that was the first year ARS didn't have the gameworks party

Hollywood Horwitz · 01-09-2006, 03:46 PM

It was a sad state of affairs this year. Our booth was awesome with the hottest SexSearch girls yet,but there wasnt many peeps to see it. Internext is gonna be worse next year IMO if you consider the decline from last year and the year b4 that...

leedsfan · 01-09-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

Hey reject, after 2 years with Envisionext Brand, we have over 25 designers, and 15 programmers. We are consistently used by top brand names in the Adult industry. We produce over 30 projects/month, which is evident by our portfolio (where is yours?!? 9 thumbs don't count.. oh right.. everyone will steal from you

)

Guess what idiot, i have been in the industry since 1996, so not 'LITERALY' but ACTUALLY.

We have experience in not only ADULT but also Mainstream, our horizons are not small. We have developed multiple successful software projects as well, and have a few more which will be released this month.

You can keep complaining while your amazing "1 man team, half ass designer who got out because of xpics and now screaming all about it ass, cralws back to the cave you came out from".

Hm.. so yes, i would say 'Betters'.
Thanks for kudos Sly!

We use Envisionext, and have done now for a few months. I can say that they are consistently a cut above the average. I saw quite a few people frequent their booth during the show, and I'm sure the garnered plenty of business from it.

You consistently try to make it look like you know everything there is to know about adult. If thats the case then why after 10 years of being in the business cant you even afford to go to the show yourself? Surely that must tell (even) you something.

Stan has built his project list up, and his team accordingly. We're using his company for a 50k project that only his company can manage effectively. I would never dream of showing you 50k, let alone giving it to you for a project.

leedsfan · 01-09-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Horwitz

It was a sad state of affairs this year. Our booth was awesome with the hottest SexSearch girls yet,but there wasnt many peeps to see it. Internext is gonna be worse next year IMO if you consider the decline from last year and the year b4 that...

the show is moving to Mandalay Bay and will be in March next year. That means it will directly compete for business with the Phoenix forum. This will be a difficult sell for AVN as the Pheonix show traditionally offers way better value for booth space and cost.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 04:00 PM

Thanks for support Allen!

But maybe you should reconsider, i mean Alien has "Literally" been in the business 10 years, and surely that should commend some respect! Just because it's too costly for him to attend the show, that doesn't mean he can't afford it, he's just very cost conscious, and he has a lot of cool advice to loan..

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by leedsfan

the show is moving to Mandalay Bay and will be in March next year. That means it will directly compete for business with the Phoenix forum. This will be a difficult sell for AVN as the Pheonix show traditionally offers way better value for booth space and cost.

Have not attended Phoenix show yet, but i heard great things about it, and as long as i am in the USA this year, i'll be attending the show for sure, and if not one of our staff will!

Scott McD · 01-09-2006, 04:04 PM

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

Have not attended Phoenix show yet, but i heard great things about it, and as long as i am in the USA this year, i'll be attending the show for sure, and if not one of our staff will!

Excellent, Outsource labor farms are handy that way

Sly · 01-09-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Betters?
I have consistantly designed better than Envisionext, I been designing before Envisionext was ever thought of. You think the way I operate on the boards changes anything? It does not.

IAlien is always open for business, we are always looking for more clients and we are 100% adult only client base. Literally over 10 years in the Adult web development industry.

Perhaps my statements should not be looked at as adviserial but sound advice. I stand by my advice. It is stupid for a design company to showcase a booth at any event. There are no two ways about it.

Oh yeah, Like Woa hosting I guess is not one of Stan's strong points. Slap a new label on it but its the same shit.

In the same thread you confess to not being able to afford the show and then brag about "being in the industry" for 10 years. Do you not see the irony?

And who is this "we" you talk about? How many employees do you have? How many people are on your team?

If they can afford to have a booth year after year and you have trouble affording the $100 plane ticket to Vegas, you may want to think about who's method of "marketing" works better. I sure as hell don't see them begging for work on GFY.

You have way too much pride. Its killing you.

sickkittens · 01-09-2006, 05:09 PM

Lets quote the pic one more time. I didn't see it enough.

BradM · 01-09-2006, 05:09 PM

Why are you arguing with Alien? He's mentally retarded.

cmos · 01-09-2006, 05:11 PM

Ghost town.

je_rome · 01-09-2006, 05:11 PM

is this from the premiere night of Catwoman?

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

I think i captured it pretty well.

This is central booth, at the entrance of the show.

sherie · 01-09-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by leedsfan

the show is moving to Mandalay Bay and will be in March next year. That means it will directly compete for business with the Phoenix forum. This will be a difficult sell for AVN as the Pheonix show traditionally offers way better value for booth space and cost.

Are you serious? That is insane....everyone knows that the Phoenix Forum IS singlehandedly the best show...pretty sad to want to compete with something so successful but then again I can I'm not shocked.

Stantheman - you would totally want to do the Forum if you could...by far the best show and you have excellent quality time with potential business people.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 05:16 PM

"You have way too much pride. Its killing you."

Yeah it does, pride is expensive.
I like it simple. Don't fuck with me and its all good. I could be one of the greatest guys you would ever know, I am loyal to the core to peeps that are good with me. I even sacrifice myself for em. But fucking with me changes everything.

Sure its a tough to walk with but I do not like getting walked on and prefer the later.
I will eat Ramen if I must and know at the end of the day I got my pride.

Stan and his peeps takin their shots at me, I just setting things right.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

"You have way too much pride. Its killing you."

Yeah it does, pride is expensive.
I like it simple. Don't fuck with me and its all good.

Funny, i like the same thing.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I could be one of the greatest guys you would ever know, I am loyal to the core to peeps that are good with me. I even sacrifice myself for em. But fucking with me changes everything.

Sure its a tough to walk with but I do not like getting walked on and prefer the later.
I will eat Ramen if I must and know at the end of the day I got my pride.

Stan and his peeps takin their shots at me, I just setting things right.

Alien, you must be really retarted, i suggest you re-read the thread, and see where the attacks started. Keep on marketing big boy.

Just don't forget to take your pills before you go attacking me, or giving me the helpful advice you got so much of. Maybe if you were retaining all of it, rather then giving it out left and right, you could actually afford going to the show, since you look for business every day.

Maybe it's $300 tours that are killing ya bro - hey, here is something good came out of the thread, i got an advertisement for ya ;)

Soul2Sol · 01-09-2006, 05:37 PM

I'm gonna bump this thread for $tan cuz FLiXXXS.com proudly uses Envisionext and their hosting. All is good.

Funny thing I went to this one booth and I was talking to one of the most beautiful women at the show and I realized it was the Envisionext booth... i was like woah Is Stan here? and the lovely lady says he will be right back. THEN she introduces herself as Stan's wife!!!

Thats when i knew Stan was truly the man..... bravo my man, Bravo. I was going to roll back to see if you had returned but I got caught up and the rest is history...

Pornwolf · 01-09-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

...felt like I was in the street markets in Asia where any second someone would scream "you like this one? you come look! over here! good price! pick me! pick me!"

LOL! Good one Ozman!

JoeMeca · 01-09-2006, 05:43 PM

damn it looks crowded

01-09-2006, 05:46 PM

oh my god...

I knew it was empty but I had no idea how empty

people who paid top dollar for hotel, their booth, and sponsoring events musta be fucking outraged

dad0n · 01-09-2006, 05:47 PM

..and to think....you had to pay a price for each chair you had in your booth as well!!!

The Sultan Of Smut · 01-09-2006, 05:48 PM

I think there would be far hight ROI if instead of paying $10,000 on a booth just throw a party and have all your reps working the beer barrels.

Spunky · 01-09-2006, 05:52 PM

Damn..that is pathetic

Shok · 01-09-2006, 06:18 PM

eroswebmaster · 01-09-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shok

Is that from an upcoming episode of Arrested Development?

Onlly people who watch the show will get it.

inthestars · 01-09-2006, 06:30 PM

I agree that this year was a ghost town. The people from reflected.net had to go over to the AVN show on Saturday to find enough people give away all the t-shirts they had.

Sin · 01-09-2006, 06:41 PM

I'm curious do you people think that this is an indicator of the future of shows/conventions in general, or is this an AVN issue or a timing issue?

I'm curious, I've never once gone to a show myself... but I'm seeing a lot of people here saying that the networking isn't happening on the floors anymore, but at the parties... and companies don't need to pay for booths, to have parties...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

Funny, i like the same thing.

Alien, you must be really retarted, i suggest you re-read the thread, and see where the attacks started. Keep on marketing big boy.

Just don't forget to take your pills before you go attacking me, or giving me the helpful advice you got so much of. Maybe if you were retaining all of it, rather then giving it out left and right, you could actually afford going to the show, since you look for business every day.

Maybe it's $300 tours that are killing ya bro - hey, here is something good came out of the thread, i got an advertisement for ya ;)

SO is that an apology for giving me grief over the years?
I remember you comming to my threads in design and talkin shit over the years.

Apologise and we are good.

Pornwolf · 01-09-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

SO is that an apology for giving me grief over the years?
I remember you comming to my threads in design and talkin shit over the years.

Apologise and we are good.

Noooo! Fuck that! Don't bury the hatchet! We want drama from vets! Yeah!

Say what you really feel guys. This is better than watching a fight on Ditmars &b Flatbush!

Heh heh, no, just kidding. You two fighting after all these years makes no sense.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

SO is that an apology for giving me grief over the years?
I remember you comming to my threads in design and talkin shit over the years.

Apologise and we are good.

Alien, lay off the fucking crack. I dare you to use the search feature and pull a few up, i really don't have that many posts, so you should have no problems sifting through them.

Thank you, come again!

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Noooo! Fuck that! Don't bury the hatchet! We want drama from vets! Yeah!

Say what you really feel guys. This is better than watching a fight on Ditmars &b Flatbush!

Heh heh, no, just kidding. You two fighting after all these years makes no sense.

PW, I am rebutting, not fighting, and someone has obviously not taken their pillz for a while, or smoked too much crack, cuz his memory is shot.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sin

I'm curious do you people think that this is an indicator of the future of shows/conventions in general, or is this an AVN issue or a timing issue?

I'm curious, I've never once gone to a show myself... but I'm seeing a lot of people here saying that the networking isn't happening on the floors anymore, but at the parties... and companies don't need to pay for booths, to have parties...

I think Florida last year was the first show the company could throw a show authorized party (listed in directory, and get needed traffic) without being an exhibitor. I am not sure if this was the case in Vegas this month.

Hue G. Pness · 01-09-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sin

but I'm seeing a lot of people here saying that the networking isn't happening on the floors anymore, but at the parties...

A lot of the real business has always gone on at the parties and dinners etc. Sure some gets done on the show floor but in the past the high traffic show floor traffic mostly targeted low to mid range webmasters as a show of force so to speak. Toss out a shit load of free shit using paid models to attract the people that will send a few sign ups a day because the model took a picture with them and handed them a t-shirt. Why else do you think exhibitors pay for all that flair? The big guys don't give a shit about free t-shirts and weekend expo models. They do their talks on the side lines. If the lower end webmasters are priced out of the show and floor traffic sucks then that defeats the purpose of putting on a good floor show.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

Alien, lay off the fucking crack. I dare you to use the search feature and pull a few up, i really don't have that many posts, so you should have no problems sifting through them.

Thank you, come again!

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

It's still a piece of crap, just like the previous version.

Maybe one of these days, they'll outsource to a great designer, rather then keep trying doing it inhouse...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=397293
2004.

Fucking fruit cake.
We can keep pissing then. I never forget...
You degenerate russkie.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 08:57 PM

There are plenty more from back when ya were a fucked up Host with LikeWoa over at Pond.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 09:08 PM

I only wonder how many fake nics ya have hit me on GFY with...

Would be an interesting thing to research if it was open book.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 09:19 PM

I guess this thread will die now.

Everyone wants to hate Alienq its so easy...
People can't stand it when I put the real shit on the wall.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=397293
2004.

Fucking fruit cake.
We can keep pissing then. I never forget...
You degenerate russkie.

Lets piss.....
You said yourself in that thread

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

]Nice job who ever did it!

You ignorant spamming idiot, how was this directed at you? go and fucking re-read it AGAIN. Where was YOUR name specifically mentioned before i reply dumbass? How would i have a remote idea it was a design by YOU. Only if i was smoking the same thing you were...

hey retardo, i didn't ask a single person to post here.. you just keep digging your hole.. you ass.

I may be Russkie(and proud of it), but YOU are the degenerate....

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

There are plenty more from back when ya were a fucked up Host with LikeWoa over at Pond.

That's all you got for me? it's geting boring...

What's up with you not being able to make up to your clients for less then 1k in design work.. can't refund.. can't do the work.. deadbeat.

xxxice · 01-09-2006, 09:23 PM

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 09:27 PM

So proud that ya come to the United States then employ some off shore workers after a failed attempt at hosting then belittling other peoples work in design threads?

What was it LikeWoa was shut down for?
Humm.

LOL! You are the worse kind of American around.
Put yer foot in yer mouth and keep sucking you bumbling idiot.

I've had to deal with some of you're clients since you over charge em and hand em designs that look like Bozo the clown cut loose while on a LSD trip. I picked up after you a number of times.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I only wonder how many fake nics ya have hit me on GFY with...

Would be an interesting thing to research if it was open book.

Unlike you, i spend my time improving my business, not searching for it on GFY... you need those 21k Posts..

So can you be a man of your word.. or you are just a peace of lying crap? Show me where i was "giving you grief over the years".

so OWNED

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 09:31 PM

I at least over deliver with my clients for alot less than you.
Solid designs that actually work without all the weird crap your small army tries.

People that come to me get alot more than they asked for.
They get results, and NONE would say otherwise.

Why do you think I am in business all these years still?
I do my shit, and charge accordingly for it.

In short I do not rape the client.
Maybe its kept my pocket book down, but it does keep me honest charging what I think I am worth.

You probably do not even know what photoshop is or how it works ya just pay some grunt over sea's to splatter something on a hardrive and call it a product.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2006, 09:37 PM

Oh ya want me to link Netpond?

HAhah...

I can find more, GFY search only goes back 2004 or so.
There are earlier ones.

Anyways.
You are done.

Ya got what asked for and ask for more?

Dumb is dumb I almot feel bad slapping a retard like you.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

So proud that ya come to the United States then employ some off shore workers after a failed attempt at hosting then belittling other peoples work in design threads?

What was it LikeWoa was shut down for?
Humm.

LOL! You are the worse kind of American around.
Put yer foot in yer mouth and keep sucking you bumbling idiot.

I've had to deal with some of you're clients since you over charge em and hand em designs that look like Bozo the clown cut loose while on a LSD trip. I picked up after you a number of times.

Uhm.. Go tell DELL, Microsoft & Intel regarding outsourcing.. you fool.
Of course.. all your staff is proud US resident.. all ONE of them.
Unlike you we enjoy the benefits of globalization.

Of course you had to pickup my clients.. That's why i have all those clients in my portfolio with multiple projects.. which keeps growing. Here are just a few:

Adult.com
VideosZ.com
TrafficCashGold.com
PureCash.com
Nocreditcard.com
WebmasterAccess.com
JupiterHosting.com
Oxeo.com
WegCash.com
SoulCash.com
SeriousCash.com
Dollars4Babes.com
AdultFriendFinder.com
SlickCash.com
AchBank.com
SunnyDollars.com
CyberAgeLive.com
WildCash.com

And many more!
If you don't like our work, that's your personal opinion, and i can respect that.. you have YOUR clientele, and we have ours, and i am not complaining.

Juicy D. Links · 01-09-2006, 09:40 PM

yup that sums it up evryone ghosttown...

bhutocracy · 01-09-2006, 09:42 PM

*shrugs* that wasn't your thread, your design or a reply to you, don't see how's it's Stan starting anything specifically with you. Looks like he would have said the same thing if you'd posted or not.
Just cause he didn't like previous ce cash work either which you presumably did you go apeshit at him, he doesn't look like the instigator.

$tandaman · 01-09-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I at least over deliver with my clients for alot less than you.
Solid designs that actually work without all the weird crap your small army tries.

People that come to me get alot more than they asked for.
They get results, and NONE would say otherwise.

Why do you think I am in business all these years still?
I do my shit, and charge accordingly for it.

In short I do not rape the client.
Maybe its kept my pocket book down, but it does keep me honest charging what I think I am worth.

You probably do not even know what photoshop is or how it works ya just pay some grunt over sea's to splatter something on a hardrive and call it a product.

You are the best designer in the world. I am glad your time costs pennies. One gets what he pays for with you, that's for sure. Boo hoo.. keep crying that my prices are higher, yet my client list is bigger, and i have no problem keeping staff 25 times bigger then yours busy.. it must be because i underdeliver what i promise for my clients all the time.. and you are sooo purrrfect you have never fucked up.

NEVER.

You are the golden boy of adult design. I'll be referring business to you all the time now, if there is too much and i can't take it on. Oh wait.. you don't have a portfolio..

Juicy D. Links · 01-09-2006, 09:44 PM

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Soul2Sol Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 160	I'm gonna bump this thread for $tan cuz FLiXXXS.com proudly uses Envisionext and their hosting. All is good. Funny thing I went to this one booth and I was talking to one of the most beautiful women at the show and I realized it was the Envisionext booth... i was like woah Is Stan here? and the lovely lady says he will be right back. THEN she introduces herself as Stan's wife!!! Thats when i knew Stan was truly the man..... bravo my man, Bravo. I was going to roll back to see if you had returned but I got caught up and the rest is history...

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buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	oh my god... I knew it was empty but I had no idea how empty people who paid top dollar for hotel, their booth, and sponsoring events musta be fucking outraged

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Sin Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 649	I'm curious do you people think that this is an indicator of the future of shows/conventions in general, or is this an AVN issue or a timing issue? I'm curious, I've never once gone to a show myself... but I'm seeing a lot of people here saying that the networking isn't happening on the floors anymore, but at the parties... and companies don't need to pay for booths, to have parties... __________________ Soft & Smooth Pussy, always Edible

01-09-2006, 08:57 PM	#87
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	There are plenty more from back when ya were a fucked up Host with LikeWoa over at Pond. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-09-2006, 09:08 PM	#88
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I only wonder how many fake nics ya have hit me on GFY with... Would be an interesting thing to research if it was open book. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-09-2006, 09:19 PM	#89
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I guess this thread will die now. Everyone wants to hate Alienq its so easy... People can't stand it when I put the real shit on the wall. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-09-2006, 09:23 PM	#91
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042

01-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#92
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	So proud that ya come to the United States then employ some off shore workers after a failed attempt at hosting then belittling other peoples work in design threads? What was it LikeWoa was shut down for? Humm. LOL! You are the worse kind of American around. Put yer foot in yer mouth and keep sucking you bumbling idiot. I've had to deal with some of you're clients since you over charge em and hand em designs that look like Bozo the clown cut loose while on a LSD trip. I picked up after you a number of times. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-09-2006, 09:31 PM	#94
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I at least over deliver with my clients for alot less than you. Solid designs that actually work without all the weird crap your small army tries. People that come to me get alot more than they asked for. They get results, and NONE would say otherwise. Why do you think I am in business all these years still? I do my shit, and charge accordingly for it. In short I do not rape the client. Maybe its kept my pocket book down, but it does keep me honest charging what I think I am worth. You probably do not even know what photoshop is or how it works ya just pay some grunt over sea's to splatter something on a hardrive and call it a product. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 01-09-2006 at 09:33 PM..

01-09-2006, 09:37 PM	#95
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Oh ya want me to link Netpond? HAhah... I can find more, GFY search only goes back 2004 or so. There are earlier ones. Anyways. You are done. Ya got what asked for and ask for more? Dumb is dumb I almot feel bad slapping a retard like you. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-09-2006, 09:40 PM	#97
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	yup that sums it up evryone ghosttown...

01-09-2006, 09:42 PM	#98
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	shrugs that wasn't your thread, your design or a reply to you, don't see how's it's Stan starting anything specifically with you. Looks like he would have said the same thing if you'd posted or not. Just cause he didn't like previous ce cash work either which you presumably did you go apeshit at him, he doesn't look like the instigator.

01-09-2006, 09:44 PM	#100
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	100......................