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markyman 01-08-2006 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks
Most of you are pretty off base here.

500 sales a month is nothing. I realise most people here are full of shit but the people saying that sending 200 a month to a program and they will think you are gold are just wrong.

Nasty wont even answer your emails @ 200 a joins a month, nor at 500, and they arent the only ones, i send a couple 175-200 and in all honesty, they could give a fuck.

500 is not that many sales, i still think that 1000 per month (across the board to all programs) qualifies you for whale status.


Last year I sent on average 150 sales to nasty a month and they e-mailed me and assigned me special sales rep and icq number and told me I was considered a premium webmaster. I could get an e-mail or icq message from them within hours, so who knows, Im not a whale

FunForOne 01-08-2006 07:02 PM

If I was a program owner I would make sure the guys sending 100 - 200 sales a month had my cell phone number and got paid early. Send them a few thank you notes here and there and then stay out of their way for the most part.

I would look for the guys sending 20-50 sign ups a month and see what I could do to develop them. They more than likely know what they are doing and are spreading the signups around to several programs. Also, maybe they just need a bump or a little personal attention to give them incentive to grow to a 100-200 a month affiliate. They may be satisified and stagnant.

I would spend most of my time on them without ignoring every single request from the big guys.

Crypt 01-08-2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gottis
I'm sorry what

If you're sending 15 a day to a program they gonna take good care of you. End of story.

never hear of clickcash? lol

Even with 1k sales a month, you even dont get a Xmas card haha

FunForOne 01-08-2006 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt
never hear of clickcash? lol

Even with 1k sales a month, you even dont get a Xmas card haha


I only got one christmas card this year and it was from Lightspeed. I'm sad to say that I dont send them that much of my traffic and I am nowhere close to being someone they should know. Maybe I should start sending more. The programs I send more to didn't send anything.

SmokeyTheBear 01-08-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
don't believe the bullshit you read here. Most programs would be very happy to get someone sending 100 a month. 500 a month would most definately be a whale.
The thing to remember is that most people that can send 100 sign ups a month are also sending another 100 sign ups to a couple of different places, so when someone inevitably goes "100 a month is good? you idiot heaps of people do that - i do that am i a whale?" they don't realise 100 signups as a program and as an affiliate is a different thing in most cases. 100 is all the program is seeing from that affiliate because they're using more than one program in most cases.. for the affiliate the program is only making 20% or whatever of their income. 20 sales a month with each of 5 different programs doesn't make you a whale.. 100 sales a month with each of a couple of different programs might.
Then again for a large program that covers most niches it's a bit easier for a whale to send them all their traffic. Although i don't know too many people who rely on one program for 100% of their income. anywho.. bascially theres no need to go into the 1000's.. obviously some people can do that. But realistically most programs would be very happy with someone sending far less.


i have sent several sponsors well over 100 signups a month, didnt get a bonus , didnt get a card , haven't heard a word.. infact one of them i pulled my traffic and they havent even asked me why or sent me a message.. some companies just dont care.. :2 cents:

then there are other companies who butter the affiliates up real nice, but you give them traffic and they do 10 signups with the same traffic, so im unsure of the moral of this story.. :1orglaugh

wedouglas 01-08-2006 07:46 PM

I got a handsigned card from a sponsor I signed up for but sent maybe 10 hits to before i got sidetracked with something else.

FunForOne 01-08-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i have sent several sponsors well over 100 signups a month, didnt get a bonus , didnt get a card , haven't heard a word.. infact one of them i pulled my traffic and they havent even asked me why or sent me a message.. some companies just dont care.. :2 cents:

then there are other companies who butter the affiliates up real nice, but you give them traffic and they do 10 signups with the same traffic, so im unsure of the moral of this story.. :1orglaugh



Actually, a very good point.

HAPPYPEEKERS 01-08-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
I think that alot of sponsers would be sending you valuable prizes to get you to send them 200 joins a month. That is a whale in most eyes.

Hell we send more than double that to one sponsor.. great pay.. but no prizes or good christmas gifts.. but damn good money!

fuck-U-jimmy 01-08-2006 08:38 PM

I send an average of 120 joins a month to a program and they treat me very well. If i need content its there in hours, if i need special images or videos they shoot it for me. They reply to my e-mails within hours and i have a direct phone # for them. So i guess they think im worth something with just a 120 joins a month ?

Tom_PM 01-08-2006 08:44 PM

I honestly dont care if I get gifts and such :) I'm happy with the moola moola money money gimme gimme more more.

Whales know who they are I'd guess. Since the question is not about sales to one program, but overall to all of their sponsors.. I'd guess they're ok without comparing to others :)

Juicy D. Links 01-08-2006 08:45 PM

50.................

PMdave 01-08-2006 09:25 PM

special prizes and gifts my ass. I'm more than happy to recieve my money in time. I always believed nothing is free in the world and even "free gifts" and "bonuses" need to be paid somehow...

Hardlinks 01-08-2006 09:29 PM

The thread was about how many sales a month an affiliate has to send to all programs to be considered a whale.

Gifts and shit not the point here at all, just a simple question.

PMdave 01-08-2006 09:35 PM

takes about 20 joins/day to get wm rank 5/6 at ARS these days. That's one sponsor. Now what is the point of being a whale by sending 50 sales/day spread over 16 sponsors? You can walk around the house all day and tell yourself "I'm a whale, yeah, I'm good"? When you need someting done from a sponsor you're just the little loser that send 3 joins/day...

fuck-U-jimmy 01-08-2006 09:39 PM

Agreed. As long as i get paid well i dont need Ipods and other crap. I got in with a great sponsor 5 years ago and never looked back. The only problem i ever had was when IBILL went bad and i had to wait an extra week for my money.

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
I honestly dont care if I get gifts and such :) I'm happy with the moola moola money money gimme gimme more more.

Whales know who they are I'd guess. Since the question is not about sales to one program, but overall to all of their sponsors.. I'd guess they're ok without comparing to others :)


spooky181 01-08-2006 10:53 PM

We are only a small program with only one site to promote. We have 2 affiliates that send 150-200 signups per month, then we have maybe 200 other affiliates that send next to nothing. Man a couple more of those mini whales would do our program the world of good.

One of these 2 affilliates uses maybe 30 different programs on all his tgp's/mgps. I reckon he would be sending well over 3000 sales per month to all his sponsors. WOW... :winkwink:

jt420 01-08-2006 11:35 PM

1 sale or 500 a day, all productive affiliates should be taken care of and made to feel like the program is happy to have them.



In any case click the sig. :thumbsup

Hardlinks 01-08-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt420
1 sale or 500 a day, all productive affiliates should be taken care of and made to feel like the program is happy to have them.



In any case click the sig. :thumbsup


Did you read the thread?

Its not about taking care of affiliates its about how many sales a month you think makes an affiliate a "whale".

To you whale status is what? (not limitted to one program)

jt420 01-08-2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks
Did you read the thread?

Its not about taking care of affiliates its about how many sales a month you think makes an affiliate a "whale".

To you whale status is what? (not limitted to one program)

Yeah I read the thread and its such an open ended question. The variables are what you personally consider doing well, what the programs you use payout, and so much more. I think outside of all the hype many people try to have on the boards you cant pinpoint a number like 50, 500 or whatever a month is a whale. A whale cant be calculated on monthly sales but more on their ability to consistently make a number of sales, knows how to find the sponsors/niches that work for them and sale them, and what the total gross income is.

Example if your investing thousands of dollars into adwords and making tons of sales but most of the profit is spent on the advertising are you more of a whale then the guy who makes the same amount of cash but in a whole lot smaller number of sales?

Anyway my rate of living isnt classy or in need of a high income and making ten or so sales a day to program that pay 35-40 pps can keep me more then happy but at this point I am always going to be looking up at the guy who pulls in twenty or thirty a day thinking he is a whale compared to me. In turn I am sure that affiliate looks up at the guy pulling 100 sales a day and thinks he is a whale.

Gosh I am going in circles here.. :helpme so 5 a day... no 10.... no 100...shiiiiiit :upsidedow

bigdog 01-09-2006 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PMdave
takes about 20 joins/day to get wm rank 5/6 at ARS these days. That's one sponsor. Now what is the point of being a whale by sending 50 sales/day spread over 16 sponsors? You can walk around the house all day and tell yourself "I'm a whale, yeah, I'm good"? When you need someting done from a sponsor you're just the little loser that send 3 joins/day...

jeez only 20 joins how times have changed

basschick 01-09-2006 01:48 AM

i think there's a difference between a whale and a smaller program's top selling webmaster. i mean, think about it - 200 sales per month on revshare is what - $2800? that is NOT a whale.

i know some guys who do 20 a day and they aren't considered whales by the programs they promote in particular. i'd say at least 50 sales per day makes you a whale.

and if i'm wrong, there's some programs out there who owe me some bonuses, incentives and cards *LOL*

Zester 01-09-2006 03:15 AM

I sent a sponsor (a big one) 2 sales a day (yes, I know that's not 500 a month) for about a month and they deleted my account and paid me half, because they couldn't make their $1 trial niche sites to make more than $1.

from that day on I spread my traffic to a few sponsors, never gonna send a sponsor more than a few sales a day.

jt420 01-09-2006 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zester
I sent a sponsor (a big one) 2 sales a day (yes, I know that's not 500 a month) for about a month and they deleted my account and paid me half, because they couldn't make their $1 trial niche sites to make more than $1.

from that day on I spread my traffic to a few sponsors, never gonna send a sponsor more than a few sales a day.

Totally sucks that one bad experience has left you feeling that way. There are plenty of sponsors that would love to have 60 steady sales a month from an affiliate. I cant understand why someone would stop steady money...

V_RocKs 01-09-2006 03:44 AM

Sending 100 joins a month is worth a hand shake (this is where he will actually shake it and not just make a motion to shake and then bring it up to brush back his hair)...

Sending 500 joinds a month will get you a personally signed card for Christmas (I got mine, thanks Nasty Dollars)...

Sending 1000 joins will get you about $2.50 to $5 more per signup and a free BJ from a toothless hooker in Vegas. But you will have to hit them up for this because they still might not remember you.

Sending about 1500 is a good threshold for just about any big sponsor and they will take notice of you... But you mentioned something about a limo or some shit or I just forgot... but anyways... If you make $2,000 a day from just one sponsor, why the fuck do you care about a free limo ride? At this rate of pay you already should own a limo company....

Sending 2500 joins means you are Boneprone for life, see him at the next show and get the shit kicked out of you so that you can flash BP4L signs at people without getting shot for being a poser...

Troels 01-09-2006 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
jeez only 20 joins how times have changed

Yep, it seems to be true though. Just checked the stats. We're ranked 16 and don't send that much to them.

slavdogg 01-09-2006 06:16 AM

one mega whale for sale here
send all your offers to [email protected]

Troels 01-09-2006 06:24 AM

I'll buy your domain portfolio slavdogg - $100 a pop!

flashfire 01-09-2006 04:19 PM

If I had 500 signups to send they wouldnt all be going to the same program I can tell you that much

INever 01-09-2006 06:03 PM

Lately, I'm sending 200 to 700 joins a month (to a few different programs combined) depending on the SERPs. I'm gonna tape this post to the fridge for inspiration. :food-smil

V_RocKs 01-09-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by INever
Lately, I'm sending 200 to 700 joins a month (to a few different programs combined) depending on the SERPs. I'm gonna tape this post to the fridge for inspiration. :food-smil

I average about 450 sales a month.. I wish there were threads like this one 3 years ago... So much info is available to the newbie now'a'days that I wonder how the fuck you can manage to make less than $4000 a month in this business. (addressing newbs in general, not INever).

Bake 01-09-2006 08:36 PM

The size of the sponsor is a huge part of it. One solo girl site I was promoting and do a few sales per day everyday I found out I was her top affilate but other sponsors where I have sent over 500 jions in a month I was just in there top ten.

pussyluver 01-09-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
I only got one christmas card this year and it was from Lightspeed. I'm sad to say that I dont send them that much of my traffic and I am nowhere close to being someone they should know. Maybe I should start sending more. The programs I send more to didn't send anything.

We're in the porn biz and you want an xmas card? Lightspeed sent cards to everyone that is an affiliate. Steve made a gesture with that...

Other sponsors that sent out cards to this nobody affiliate include PussyCash and WebCamCash. Think that speaks more to the people involved in those programs than anything else. I recall Spread4U being hand signed by the staff.

A sponsor really needs all the affiliates they can get even if they only send one or two conversions a month. Like someone said earlier " one at 2000 affiliates" works just fine. Todays 2 a month is tomorrows 10-15 or who knows??

jt420 01-09-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slavdogg
one mega whale for sale here
send all your offers to [email protected]

got icq? lets chat about an offer. :thumbsup hehe

llporter 01-09-2006 11:34 PM

I got a Christmas Card from a sponsor that I have never sent a sale or even a hit. Does that make me a whale?

Hardlinks 01-09-2006 11:36 PM

I love how this turned into a gift and christmas card thread.

Anyone with anything worthy to say feel free.

wargames 01-10-2006 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave
takes about 20 joins/day to get wm rank 5/6 at ARS these days. That's one sponsor. Now what is the point of being a whale by sending 50 sales/day spread over 16 sponsors? You can walk around the house all day and tell yourself "I'm a whale, yeah, I'm good"? When you need someting done from a sponsor you're just the little loser that send 3 joins/day...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So true so true

kristin 01-10-2006 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by llporter
I got a Christmas Card from a sponsor that I have never sent a sale or even a hit. Does that make me a whale?

Was it SexDateCash.com?!? Cause I got that one today and I haven't used them ...

wargames 01-10-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardlinks
I love how this turned into a gift and christmas card thread.

Anyone with anything worthy to say feel free.

it keeps morphing into something else every 10 posts :winkwink:

wargames 01-10-2006 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Sending 100 joins a month is worth a hand shake (this is where he will actually shake it and not just make a motion to shake and then bring it up to brush back his hair)...

Sending 500 joinds a month will get you a personally signed card for Christmas (I got mine, thanks Nasty Dollars)...

Sending 1000 joins will get you about $2.50 to $5 more per signup and a free BJ from a toothless hooker in Vegas. But you will have to hit them up for this because they still might not remember you.

Sending about 1500 is a good threshold for just about any big sponsor and they will take notice of you... But you mentioned something about a limo or some shit or I just forgot... but anyways... If you make $2,000 a day from just one sponsor, why the fuck do you care about a free limo ride? At this rate of pay you already should own a limo company....

Sending 2500 joins means you are Boneprone for life, see him at the next show and get the shit kicked out of you so that you can flash BP4L signs at people without getting shot for being a poser...

V you are right on the money :thumbsup

V_RocKs 01-10-2006 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake
The size of the sponsor is a huge part of it. One solo girl site I was promoting and do a few sales per day everyday I found out I was her top affilate but other sponsors where I have sent over 500 jions in a month I was just in there top ten.

You link to FTV in your sig is broken.. it has a <br> tag in it.


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