There you have it folks. You know I love this site, but the one thing I hate is the group think that happens here. Everyone ready to jump on the bash (insert site, program, poster of the day here) wagon. It gets a bit old. Then even after a problem, or situation is corrected you have the linger-ons that continue to prance down the same conspiracy bash path. Other than that I love GFY!

You think a sponsor's profit increases with 404s and pissed off webmasters? The one party hurt the most with a technical issue of this gravity is ALWAYS the sponsor, not webmasters sending a few clicks to a few dozens sponsors while one has a severe technical issue.

Some people in this thread make it sound like they were losing $500 each and every hour.

it all depends on the sponsor..

Would bangbros profits increase if they have some re-curring 404's ( almost certainly yes )

Would your average sponsor's profits increase if they have re-curring 404 problems ( prob not )

That doesnt mean bangb did this intentionally, but you cant overlook the "possible" .

If i say THIS LINK is broken , and it never gets fixed , what other conclusion can i come to ?

A) they cant fix the mistake

B) they dont want to fix the mistake

c) someone was sleeping instead of fixing

d) a multimillion dollar operation cant fix things ona daily basis ?

e) ????????????


To me it makes no sense for bangb to do this intentionally ( thats just my gut feeling ) so i agree with you on that.

That doesnt mean i'm not going to call someone on it..

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one of the things that sucks on GFY

On a side note, our 404 script passes on the partner ID... so this is definately doable. Yes, maybe the 404 script IS the referrer, but the script should be able to pass on its own referrer, including affiliate code.

I agree with you to a point..

Its equally annoying when people write stuff off as "bandwagon jumpers" etc because a company has a good rep they " can do no wrong" that gets equally as "old".

If you take the time to read this thread its a perfect example..

Most people called it like it was - a problem that needs to be fixed , thats all

A few people flat out accused them of shaving..

an equal few amount of people dont even want to hear the problem because they trust bangb..

cliff notes: take everything you read on the internet as false until corroberated by your friends and people you trust..

I TRUST PIPECREW , and i TRUST the fact he will get the problems fixed. but that doesnt mean because i TRUST pipecrew, that i TRUSt everyone associated with him in any way , merely because they are associated with him.. or that it makes the problems get fixed any quicker..

:thumbsup :thumbsup maybe they should hit you up..

Your 404 script doesn't pass the partner ID through. If you notice the the pt=id is a folder, the 404 is set within that folder. So the page only has to pull the url down and split it apart, no query string to drop.

Programs "can" track the ID through the 404, just not the query string. We track ours through the session, we just make sure we don't reset it. You could could use sessions, cookies, folders, etc.. Just not the standard redirect.

As long as it works. As you mentioned Doc, it could be done many ways. If your current 404 script isnt working (as in, is not passing affiliate IDs), then its not working to your affiliates' benefit. I was just pointing that out.

Aye, I think a lot of the owners, even the admins, don't fully understand the redirect. I think most feel that you just can't track it, so they reset the links, nice free traffic. I did it this way until I learned otherwise.

professional. :thumbsup

I agree it can go either way. Id prefer the innocent till proven guilty direction though. Alot of companies get a bad rep handed to them through innocent mistakes, or total misunderstandings. Thats when certain people on this board will just all start jumping on them, calling them thieves etc. If its someone who is directly affected I can understand this to a point. If its an outsider that has nothing to do with the company, thats the ones that need to shut their trap. :winkwink:

Here are a few more 404's that need fixing.

website: bigassadventure

http://www.bigassadventure.com/t1/cf.../updates1.html


webmaster link

http://www.bustyadventures.com/t1/cf...vert/tour2.htm


Individual model pages straight from your link code section

http://www.tugjobs.com/t1/cfree=noad...ots/hj1934.htm

Epic Cash has no 404's and we do not change your aff code to an inhouse account.. if there is any existing 404, it keeps your aff code, IF there any 404's at all.....

:thumbsup :thumbsup

There is an astounding amount of bullshit in this thread from other program owners about how you can't pass an affiliate id through the 404 script.

A) Fire your programmers.
B) If you're the "programmer", hire someone with a clue.

edit: oh, that's assuming it wasn't intentional from the get-go. :2 cents:

LOL good point! I have no fucking errors on any of my sites, every fucking single link works, cuz i check everyone myself!

This entire 404 not passing info thing just didn't seem right to me given I do a bit of tracking on my sites... So I just did a test.

404 set up to redirect into a script that dumps the server variables.
A page had a query string on it called "queryonpage"
The link that's on the page that would create the 404 had a query string on it called "queryonlink"

On the Apache server, the server variables in question which the script can get info from are:

'HTTP_REFERER'=>'http://127.0.0.100/testredir.html?queryonpage'
'REDIRECT_QUERY_STRING'=>'queryonlink'
'REDIRECT_URL'=>'/bubba.html'
'REQUEST_URI'=>'/bubba.html?queryonlink'

So why can't those query stings be parsed to grab the affiliate info and pass it on to the 404 page??

TheDoc: You should talk to NATs about this.. Frankly it should be built into their software or any of that type of software.

I can only assume this is directed towards me..

http://www.bustyamateurboobs.org/testin/?test=1
Click the link on the page, it errors, and drops the query string when it 404's to the test.php file. You can see it drop the query string on the test.php and the echo line and the query string pull return nothing.

To test the test.php hit: http://www.bustyamateurboobs.org/testin/test.php?test=1

So as I said, the basic .htaccess error 404 redirect drops the query string, so you can't recapture it on the other side.

I would be happy if they would at least start by removing the link on the Monster Cock tour that I posted about this morning. It looks very odd and doesn't belong there.

404 traffic won't make profit to a program and yes you can pass affiliate ID.

Yes and no.. Yes it is "empty".. But no because you can "recapture" it from the other server variables as I posted.

OK... Here is the scoop...

A sponsor will most likely use some kind of templated solution that accesses their content management script(s)...

So you make a template of the tour... on page one the script/template asks for the last 5 or so galleries and generates the tour based on what they were... ie, you add content and the site adds it to the tour for you. Simple enough...

So this means that you update your template one to four times a year, adding in links here or there... 2257 would be an added link for example...

Now you don't make that many changes to this template and anything you do is pretty fucking straight forward...

So this is all fact. This is how just about all sponsors setup a tour. This is why the new girls are at the top and the old are on tour page #4...

Now you want me to belive that you accidentally fucked up that many links in about 10 or 12 templates? Please... Like I said earlier... Bullshit doesn't taste good and it has too many calories... Don't feed me bullshit, just fix it and it should stay fixed. Your tech who does this shit should be paid well and retained long enough that this doesn't happen and the links don't change, every fucking month.

Of course it makes a profit what kind of statement is that? Have you even taken a look at the problems in question? If an affiliate is sending traffic and a surfer clicks a link to go to the next page or go home etc. and their taken to an in-house account how is that not going to make a profit? Links that are labeled uncensored area, back to girls, favorites, home etc. and I should believe that no one is going to click them? This is a problem spanning across 6 highly trafficked sites. Give me a break sport.

you may not be able to make much with basic bland 404's , but if you notice their 404's direct you right back to the page you were on , you might never know you even hit a 404 if it werent for the ref code changing..

My final post on the subject...

If you don't like what a sponsor is doing, you can always stop promoting them.

I do make money with Bangros sites. So even though I don't like their tactics, even if they are only perceived as tactics through my perception, I ultimately have to weigh the pros and the cons... The pros are that I make a nice bundle of cash each year promoting them and the cons are that in some ways they are possibly finding ways to maximize their own goal to make money and continue to pay me $35 a signup.

When I weigh it out I end up on top by a large percentage.

To each his own... They now know I am not an idiot and that I am watching them. I feel that my point has come across to them. The situation in its current form is in my ultimately still in my favor. You will have to draw your own conclusions and make your own choices, but my choice is to keep promoting their sites.

End of story.

Carry on.

v_rocks, that is indeed a point. but many of us won't promote them on principle. and as furious male said earlier in the thread, a lot of us send ppc traffic. i can't send traffic to someone who is literally stealing X% of the traffic i send them, when i'm paying for every single click.

daytime bump.. everyone should know

Nice to see the monsters of cock tour get fixed but you missed a few others.

Members Entrance was fixed but that uncesored area is still there. How does one get fixed but not the other?

http://www.mrcameltoe.com/t1/cfree=NoAdvert/join.html


Taylor Bow home link is still unfixed.

http://taylorbow.com/t1/pps=whatever....htm?id=6&sid=


Big ass adventure is still unfixed.

http://www.bigassadventure.com/t1/cf.../updates1.html


Webmaster link is still unfixed.

http://www.bustyadventures.com/t1/cf...vert/tour2.htm


Tujobs model pages still dont work.

http://www.tugjobs.com/t1/cfree=noad...ots/hj1934.htm