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stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:13 PM

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Photographic or other likenesses of other United States obligations and securities and foreign currencies are permissible for any non-fraudulent purpose, provided the items are reproduced in black and white and are less than three-quarters or greater than one-and-one-half times the size, in linear dimension, of any part of the original item being reproduced. Negatives and plates used in making the likenesses must be destroyed after their use for the purpose for which they were made. This policy permits the use of currency reproductions in commercial advertisements, provided they conform to the size and color restrictions.
More there. Seems you left out the must be only black and white part. Notice it said AND, and not OR. The pics above are infact illegal. :winkwink:

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
LOL, you love talking out your ass don't you?

http://www.secretservice.gov/money_illustrations.shtml

Keep trying, eventually, if they change the laws, you'll be right.

Time to eat crow bubba. Maybe you dont have a color monitor yet, but those bills are quite green. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:20 PM

Funny how you extracted the black and white part each time you quoted that. Hmmmmmm. :1orglaugh

aico 01-07-2006 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Time to eat crow bubba. Maybe you dont have a color monitor yet, but those bills are quite green. :winkwink:


LOL you are retarded... there is U.S. Currency and then there are OTHER Obligations and Securities (ie. Bonds).

Nice try though...

kah kah, kah kah. (crow sound)

aico 01-07-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Funny how you extracted the black and white part each time you quoted that. Hmmmmmm. :1orglaugh

Hey genius, just click the link and read... I didn't extract anything...

Give it up, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, it's ok.

volante 01-07-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Speaking of dept. of treasury.

Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments (except under the conditions previously listed) are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.

http://www.bep.treas.gov/document.cfm/18/103

Including photographs of paper currency. Seems pretty clear to me.

You need to learn what the word "printed" means.

aico 01-07-2006 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by volante
You need to learn what the word "printed" means.

I think I own him more than you, but if you'd like you can have him on the weekends. :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
LOL you are retarded... there is U.S. Currency and then there are OTHER Obligations and Securities (ie. Bonds).

Nice try though...

kah kah, kah kah. (crow sound)

Well you have yet to tell me how something posted online can be deleted by the initial user.

# all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.

Dont really care how you spin it, its illegal.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by volante
You need to learn what the word "printed" means.


Including photographs.

aico 01-07-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Well you have yet to tell me how something posted online can be deleted by the initial user.

# all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.

Dont really care how you spin it, its illegal.


You just keep coming back for more huh? Look up the word "after", then look up the word "final".

And if you don't know how he can delete something off his server, you might try a different hobby.

SomeCreep 01-07-2006 07:32 PM

50 dollar bills copied

aico 01-07-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Including photographs.

You're funny, I like you.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
You just keep coming back for more huh? Look up the word "after", then look up the word "final".

And if you don't know how he can delete something off his server, you might try a different hobby.

Im pretty sure the 'distribution' of scanned currency in color, and ready to print would be considered quite illegal. Pretty sure it would fall under other laws too. Why dont you print a few copies out and go down to your local fbi office and ask about the legality of it all. Report back to us your findings. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

nofx 01-07-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
I think the problem may be that you are confusing yourself with someone who knows what they are talking about.

haha, that was nice.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx
haha, that was nice.


You can feel free to print those bills out, or save the images to a disk and go check with the Fbi also. :1orglaugh If you all are sooo sure its legal. :thumbsup

aico 01-07-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Im pretty sure the 'distribution' of scanned currency in color, and ready to print would be considered quite illegal. Pretty sure it would fall under other laws too. Why dont you print a few copies out and go down to your local fbi office and ask about the legality of it all. Report back to us your findings. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

While you may be pretty sure, I am 100% sure, see there is the difference between someone who knows what he is talking about, and someone who is pretty sure they are.

And if I went to the FBI they would tell me to go see the Secret Service, cuz the FBI doesn't handle that. And when I went to see the Secret Service, they would say "Didn't you read what it said on our website? It's pretty clear for you on there, or can't you read?"

volante 01-07-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Including photographs.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You might want to include the ENTIRE sentence that you're using to back up your claims - from the link you posted:

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Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments (except under the conditions previously listed) are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.
That's "Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency". Means something completely different if you don't include all the big words :thumbsup

If you're so keen to stess the illegality of this, why are you also advocating the use of torrent sites for the illegal distribution and copying of copyrighted material in this thread?

aico 01-07-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by volante
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You might want to include the ENTIRE sentence that you're using to back up your claims - from the link you posted:



That's "Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency". Means something completely different if you don't include all the big words :thumbsup

If you're so keen to stess the illegality of this, why are you also advocating the use of torrent sites for the illegal distribution and copying of copyrighted material in this thread?

See the problem is, he thinks that picture on the interweb are photographs. He doesn't realize a photograph is an actual thing.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
See the problem is, he thinks that picture on the interweb are photographs. He doesn't realize a photograph is an actual thing.

Hey np just save those images to a disc, and head on down to the fbi. Let me know how the results come out. :thumbsup

aico 01-07-2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Hey np just save those images to a disc, and head on down to the fbi. Let me know how the results come out. :thumbsup

Again, Secret Service, not FBI, take your time here, now I know it can be tricky, say it with me:
S e c r e t S e r v i c e.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
Again, Secret Service, not FBI, take your time here, now I know it can be tricky, say it with me:
S e c r e t S e r v i c e.

Most cities dont have a local Secret service office. They normally do have an FBI office though.

Btw digital media is considered a photograph.

Main Entry: 1pho·to·graph
Pronunciation: 'fO-t&-"graf
Function: noun
: a picture or likeness obtained by photography

Main Entry: 1pic·ture
Pronunciation: 'pik-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin pictura, from pictus, past participle of pingere to paint -- more at PAINT
1 : a design or representation made by various means (as painting, drawing, or photography)
2 a : a description so vivid or graphic as to suggest a mental image or give an accurate idea of something <the book gives a detailed picture of what is happening> b : a mental image
3 : IMAGE, COPY <the picture of his father> <the very picture of health>
4 a : a transitory visible image or reproduction b : MOTION PICTURE c plural : MOVIES
5 : TABLEAU 1, 2 <stage pictures>
6 : SITUATION <took a hard look at his financial picture>

aico 01-07-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Most cities dont have a local Secret service office. They normally do have an FBI office though.

Btw digital media is considered a photograph.

Main Entry: 1pho·to·graph
Pronunciation: 'fO-t&-"graf
Function: noun
: a picture or likeness obtained by photography

Main Entry: 1pic·ture
Pronunciation: 'pik-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin pictura, from pictus, past participle of pingere to paint -- more at PAINT
1 : a design or representation made by various means (as painting, drawing, or photography)
2 a : a description so vivid or graphic as to suggest a mental image or give an accurate idea of something <the book gives a detailed picture of what is happening> b : a mental image
3 : IMAGE, COPY <the picture of his father> <the very picture of health>
4 a : a transitory visible image or reproduction b : MOTION PICTURE c plural : MOVIES
5 : TABLEAU 1, 2 <stage pictures>
6 : SITUATION <took a hard look at his financial picture>

Dude, you are seriously mentally incompetent.

I don't even know to respond to this it's beyond stupid. ok,ok, ok, so what you are saying is that since a photograph is a "picture" or likeness obtained by PHOTOGRAPHY, that somehow this leads you to believe that a picture and a photograph are the same thing? Why not post the definitiion of "likeness" too? :1orglaugh

It's the FUCKING SECRET SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT THE FBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Secret Service, United States, a law enforcement division (since 2003) of the Dept. of Homeland Security. It was established in 1865 in the the Dept. of the Treasury to investigate and prevent counterfeiting of currency, officially becoming a distinct organization within the department in 1883. The Secret Service enforces federal laws relating to currency, coins, obligations, and the securities of the United States and foreign governments, including forgery and fraudulent electronic transfer.

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), division of the U.S. Dept. of Justice charged with investigating all violations of federal laws except those assigned to some other federal agency....nuff said.

7-11 is closer than the FBI, why not just go there? At least you could pick up a Slurpy.

nofx 01-07-2006 09:01 PM

sticky you're making yourself look like a tard in this thread


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