WTF, suddenly they say only 1 miner is alive - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 12:49 AM

For a couple hours these people have been celebrating and suddenly they tell them they were misinformed

fitzmulti · 01-04-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

For a couple hours these people have been celebrating and suddenly they tell them they were misinformed

If what this chick on CNN is saying is true - that really sucks!

JD · 01-04-2006, 12:50 AM

gaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Tempest · 01-04-2006, 12:53 AM

That's the problem with this up to the minute reporting... Ends up putting out a shitload of misinformation..

abadfish · 01-04-2006, 12:55 AM

What the fuck... How do you go from having one miner die to having only one miner live in a few hours???

CNN's website was even saying the men were being brought to local hospitals, etc etc.

boneprone · 01-04-2006, 12:56 AM

That is horrible..

je_rome · 01-04-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

That's the problem with this up to the minute reporting... Ends up putting out a shitload of misinformation..

media networks fight for exclusive coverage and and they all end up reporting shit. its the viewers who are in the losing end in this media war

boneprone · 01-04-2006, 01:01 AM

SHIT!!

WWW.CNN.COM

they better change the webpage!

abadfish · 01-04-2006, 01:04 AM

www.msnbc.com has changed slightly.

AdamAnt · 01-04-2006, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

SHIT!!

WWW.CNN.COM

they better change the webpage!

better take screen shots to keep this history

abadfish · 01-04-2006, 01:07 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4579698.stm

BBC has it.

Young · 01-04-2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_ADK

better take screen shots to keep this history

just took the whole page

Turboface · 01-04-2006, 01:10 AM

Imagine that: Your loved one's are alive! OH, wait a minute, they're dead.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-04-2006, 01:12 AM

What a mess - even the Govener was celebrating them being found alive

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by abadfish

What the fuck... How do you go from having one miner die to having only one miner live in a few hours???

CNN's website was even saying the men were being brought to local hospitals, etc etc.

While Anderson Cooper was talking one of the family members they had been talking to earlier ran up to him and told him. She said that fights broke out inside the church when they were told they had been mistakenly informed the miners were alive.

NoHassleSteve · 01-04-2006, 01:14 AM

And the media wants to accuse the government of being clueless liars?

It's not like dead and alive are nuanced technical jargon.

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NoHassleSteve

And the media wants to accuse the government of being clueless liars?

It's not like dead and alive are nuanced technical jargon.

The media is not to blame here. The person who said they are dead is the same spokesman for the mine who earlier said they were alive, according to the family member that let Anderson Cooper know what had just happened.

erehwon · 01-04-2006, 07:07 AM

Dunno, The Chicago City News Bureau which closed up shop on New Years eve 2005 had this maxim they told all their up-and-coming journalists working there....

"If your mother says she loves you, check it out"

I'm disappointed that no-one producer/journalist of ANY network was willing to double check all of this before going to air with it, in CNN's defence, I get my breaking news alerts on my Blackberry, and while there were reports from the mine all day, when the first mail I recieved from a friend that the miners were all ok, there was nothing from CNN until the report came in that it was only the one miner found alive.

Red Ezra · 01-04-2006, 07:29 AM

pretty sad - I cant even imagine what those people must be going through - how horrible - this is just the worst thing that could ever happen - I feel so bad for them - I cant even watch the news it's too heavy - everybody crying it's just tragic after celebration

JamesK2 · 01-04-2006, 07:40 AM

"Miscommunication" blamed for early reports

That's fucked.

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by erehwon

I'm disappointed that no-one producer/journalist of ANY network was willing to double check all of this before going to air with it, in CNN's defence, I get my breaking news alerts on my Blackberry, and while there were reports from the mine all day, when the first mail I recieved from a friend that the miners were all ok, there was nothing from CNN until the report came in that it was only the one miner found alive.

Should reporters become coroners and insist on examining bodies? There was a 3 hour gap between the "miscommunication" and the correction (which happened over midnight so there are a ton of newspapers with "12 alive" on the front page).

BigFish · 01-04-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Should reporters become coroners and insist on examining bodies? There was a 3 hour gap between the "miscommunication" and the correction (which happened over midnight so there are a ton of newspapers with "12 alive" on the front page).

shuttup moron. Was there an "official announcement" that the miners were found alive? NO. The media based their "facts" on rumors spread by the family. Did the media care to double check the rumors? Of course not. It's amusing how the media is totally wrong in this instance, and when they start backtracking, you fucking believe into their excuses as well. Damn sheep.

Sarah_Jayne · 01-04-2006, 08:26 AM

my family is a mining family (ie own and ran a coal mine for generations) and all I can think about is the families right now

cool1 · 01-04-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

shuttup moron. Was there an "official announcement" that the miners were found alive? NO. The media based their "facts" on rumors spread by the family. Did the media care to double check the rumors? Of course not. It's amusing how the media is totally wrong in this instance, and when they start backtracking, you fucking believe into their excuses as well. Damn sheep.

Yep its time the media start checking shit out before airing it.

stickyfingerz · 01-04-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

shuttup moron. Was there an "official announcement" that the miners were found alive? NO. The media based their "facts" on rumors spread by the family. Did the media care to double check the rumors? Of course not. It's amusing how the media is totally wrong in this instance, and when they start backtracking, you fucking believe into their excuses as well. Damn sheep.

Media is scum, but I dont think they can be blamed in this case. This was good news that was rushed this time, usually its the opposite.

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But late Tuesday night, families began streaming out of the church, yelling "They're alive!" The church's bells began ringing and families embraced, as politicians proclaimed word of the apparent rescue a miracle.

As an ambulance drove away from the mine carrying what families believed was the first survivor, they applauded, not yet knowing there were no others.

Though the governor announced that there were 12 survivors, he later indicated he was uncertain about the news. As word buzzed through the church of survivors, he tried to find out what was going on, he said.

"All of a sudden we heard the families in a euphoric state, and all the shouting and screaming and joyfulness, and I asked my detachments, I said, 'Do you know what's happening?' Because we were wired in and we didn't know," Manchin said.

International Coal Group Chief Executive Officer Ben Hatfield blamed the wrong information on a "miscommunication." The news spread after people overheard cell phone calls, he said. In reality, rescuers had only confirmed finding 12 miners and were checking their vital signs. At least two family members in the church said they received cell phone calls from a mine foreman.

"That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said.

Company officials waited to correct the information until they knew more about the rescue, Hatfield said.

"Let's put this in perspective. Who do I tell not to celebrate? I didn't know if there were 12 or one (who were alive)," Hatfield said.

Sarah_Jayne · 01-04-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cool1

Yep its time the media start checking shit out before airing it.

Yes..just relying on statements makes you a puppet. It is the same rush for the story that got the first Bush election wrong and nothing has been learned since.

How many times do you hear CNN or Fox say 'these are uncomfirmed reports'. THEN they shouldn't be airing them.

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

shuttup moron. Was there an "official announcement" that the miners were found alive? NO. The media based their "facts" on rumors spread by the family. Did the media care to double check the rumors? Of course not. It's amusing how the media is totally wrong in this instance, and when they start backtracking, you fucking believe into their excuses as well. Damn sheep.

How much of the live coverage did you watch? They even had the fucking governor of the state celebrating and telling people they would be reunited with their family members soon. After the mine officials had a press conference to say they weren't responsible for the "miscommunication" many family members stormed out of the church and said they were lying. I tend to belive them over officials or reporters.

Violetta · 01-04-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Turboface

Imagine that: Your loved one's are alive! OH, wait a minute, they're dead.

yeah... that sucks!

mardigras · 01-04-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Company officials waited to correct the information until they knew more about the rescue, Hatfield said.

"That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said.

Those 2 sentences explain exactly why this happened. Not the media's mistake at all.

ATL_Ryan · 01-04-2006, 08:52 AM

I was just at the store getting coffee and all the papers are sitting there with Huge headlines saying 12 MINERS ALIVE!

Atlanta Jounal Constitution and USA today.

They should throw those papers away.

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erehwon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A secure undisclosed location... Posts: 3,759	Dunno, The Chicago City News Bureau which closed up shop on New Years eve 2005 had this maxim they told all their up-and-coming journalists working there.... "If your mother says she loves you, check it out" I'm disappointed that no-one producer/journalist of *ANY* network was willing to double check all of this before going to air with it, in CNN's defence, I get my breaking news alerts on my Blackberry, and while there were reports from the mine all day, when the first mail I recieved from a friend that the miners were all ok, there was nothing from CNN until the report came in that it was only the one miner found alive. __________________ Money NEVER $leep$...

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Red Ezra redezra.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 4,680	pretty sad - I cant even imagine what those people must be going through - how horrible - this is just the worst thing that could ever happen - I feel so bad for them - I cant even watch the news it's too heavy - everybody crying it's just tragic after celebration

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	my family is a mining family (ie own and ran a coal mine for generations) and all I can think about is the families right now

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ATL_Ryan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,519	I was just at the store getting coffee and all the papers are sitting there with Huge headlines saying 12 MINERS ALIVE! Atlanta Jounal Constitution and USA today. They should throw those papers away.