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Old 01-01-2006, 08:32 PM   #51
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X is pretty good. Don't do it more than a few times a year though.
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:59 PM   #52
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I would also not reccomend it unless a lesbian orgy beckons you to do it with them.
Haha thats what I was going to say. Thats the only time I might ever do it.
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Old 01-01-2006, 09:36 PM   #53
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Old 01-01-2006, 09:36 PM   #54
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:25 PM   #55
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weak dumb minds + lots of drugs = problems
strong intelligent minds + recreational drug use = good shit

know the threshold. respect your limits. don't get sucked in.

recreational use of drugs is no match for a strong, intelligent mind. it actually opens that mind and gives the 3rd eye view on the world.
Exactly. Most people here are speaking of the negative attributes associated with abuse of the drug. Note use and abuse are two entirely different things.
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:31 PM   #56
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the main prob with e is there is so much "dirty" e out thee.

uneducated rec users can find the wrong stuff real easy.

beware in 2006 for e

90% of it isn't e

beware.
ummm it's been like that for quite sometime... there's lots of speedbombs and kbased crap out there...
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:33 PM   #57
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ummm it's been like that for quite sometime... there's lots of speedbombs and kbased crap out there...
agreed. 100%.

i make my own shit.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:53 AM   #58
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agreed. 100%.

i make my own shit.
so what you're saying is...

you have a lab and manufacture your own e's?
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:56 AM   #59
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:06 AM   #60
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E is one of the best drugs I have ever done, and I have done most drugs.
It gives you the best feeling ever, you can't compare E to anything.
Btw polle54 coke is more addictive than E, but coke is a drug you can do everyday, not like E, which you can't do more than once per-month.
Also polle54 if you want I can email you a way to purify coke.
Or I can just post it here, don't know if I'm allowed too.
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:32 AM   #61
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jesus christ a lot of your do drugs. what a waste
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:50 AM   #62
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X is pretty good. Don't do it more than a few times a year though.
indeed, but for example i did it for suire more that 100 times in 2005 ;] ;] ;]...
but I can't blame E on this one , but rather my stupidity...
I stopped this in end of nov 2005 , and now my liver and whole body feels much better ;].
E, as most psychedelics/empatogens etc. could be wonderfull personal-growth tool...
happy new year ladies&gentlemen
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:53 AM   #63
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:56 AM   #64
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I don't have any plans of destroying my dreams with that drug.
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Old 01-02-2006, 02:47 AM   #65
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I do it about once a year, sometimes twice, for the last 5 years or so.

I feel zero side effects or brain damage, literally nothing.

Its definately an experience everyone should have IMHO.
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Old 01-02-2006, 03:56 AM   #66
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I have to score me a few pills.
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Old 01-02-2006, 04:12 AM   #67
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the main prob with e is there is so much "dirty" e out thee.

uneducated rec users can find the wrong stuff real easy.

beware in 2006 for e

90% of it isn't e

beware.
And the worst thing is that I can't imagine any way of detecting if the pill is real E or just some shit.
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Old 01-02-2006, 04:14 AM   #68
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If you get pure thing.
If you use it while you are happy.
If you use it only on some very special occasions.
Then it's a damn good drug.
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Old 01-02-2006, 04:19 AM   #69
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:46 AM   #70
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:54 AM   #71
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:58 AM   #72
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I did quite a few e's for a couple of years, in the lat 80's early 90's, then moved on to doing coke as I found after a few years of doing e's I was getting paranoid. Both on and off e's. Also towards the end of me doing them, when I took them I would often trip out, just like on acid. Not always a good experiance. So in the end I had to stop taking all hard drugs.

I was quite paranoid for a few years afterwards. But this could just have easily been put down to the amount of pot I smoked. Though I carried on smoking pot for another 10 years. Before giving up a year or so ago. I never had the same paranoya like I did in those e years.

What I will say is I had some of the best times of my life while doing e's certainly the best sex. But I also think, that was due to the times. Late 80's with the whole acid and house club scene in England was amazing. But I would never do one again as long as I live, so draw whatever conclusion you want from that.
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Exactly. Most people here are speaking of the negative attributes associated with abuse of the drug. Note use and abuse are two entirely different things.
So true, there is little or no damage with moderate drug use.
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What is Ecstasy?
Ecstasy is the name for MDMA (3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine). MDMA (and its close relation MDA) are classified as enactogens, drugs that have stimulant, hallucinogenic and mood-improving qualities. It was originally developed as a diet aid. Before it was made illegal in 1985, it was used experimentally by mental health professionals in controlled settings to help people in couple's counseling. It began to be used illicitly in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Though Ecstasy use remains rare, its use among teenagers almost doubled between 1998 and 2001 and it is the only drug which has shown a marked increase in consumption in the college population with a 69% increase between 1997 and 1999.

Why do people take Ecstasy?
Ecstasy produces a euphoric high that lasts from 3 to 4 hours by generating a rush of serotonin and a smaller amount of dopamine, the brain messenger molecules that help to regulate mood. Serotonin is the brain chemical that many antidepressants regulate. Users describe Ecstasy as making them empathic, producing a temporary state of openness. Depending on its contents, Ecstasy can also cause mild hallucinogenic effects. Users report that the rush of serotonin is pleasurable and produces both an emotionally relaxed and physically exhilarated state. However, this extremely fast deployment of serotonin can deplete normal serotonin levels and produce depression or malaise after the drug wears off.

Are there short-term dangers of taking Ecstasy?
Pills sold as Ecstasy may not be Ecstasy at all. MDMA purchased on the street is frequently laced with other drugs like cocaine, heroine, PCP, or toxic chemicals like PMA and DXM, atropine, and rat poison. In a 1996 study of Ecstasy content, 19 out of 33 pills (58%) were found to contain less than 25% MDMA. Only 5 pills (15%) were more than 75% MDMA.

Are there long-term consequences to taking Ecstasy?
Although further studies are needed, more and more research suggests that Ecstasy causes serotonin levels to drop below normal, which impairs the brain's ability to learn, retain information and regulate mood. It appears that Ecstasy causes serotonin receptors, which allow the serotonin to fire in the brain, to shrink from overuse. Some evidence shows that restoration of serotonin receptors is possible with continued abstinence from the drug, but that people who have never taken Ecstasy have more functioning serotonin receptors than those who have.

Other studies suggest that regular or heavy Ecstasy use has long-term negative effects on memory and brain function which go well beyond the last pill taken (and seem to continue to increase in spite of long-term abstinence from the drug). One study found that women are particularly vulnerable to damage to the serotonin system by MDMA.
The part about ex being laced with heroine and rat poison is false. There has never been any evidence and it goes against common sense.. Drug dealers dont put heroine in their pills and then sell that heroin at a loss as extacy.. pure heroine sells well enough on its own.

Anyways alot of misinformation floating around this thread.. go to http://erowid.org for all the information you could ever want about what those things you put into your bodies on the weekend actually do to you..
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The part about ex being laced with heroine and rat poison is false. There has never been any evidence and it goes against common sense.. Drug dealers dont put heroine in their pills and then sell that heroin at a loss as extacy.. pure heroine sells well enough on its own.

Anyways alot of misinformation floating around this thread.. go to http://erowid.org for all the information you could ever want about what those things you put into your bodies on the weekend actually do to you..
Also bluelight.ru for drug harm reduction
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so what you're saying is...

you have a lab and manufacture your own e's?

no. i'm fucking around. i'm sure you need quite and elaborate knowledge of chemistry for that. the only thing i know how to mix together is records.
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no. i'm fucking around. i'm sure you need quite and elaborate knowledge of chemistry for that. the only thing i know how to mix together is records.
It's not THAT hard.
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>> it actually opens that mind and gives the 3rd eye view on the world.

I think this is the real problem with drugs is it leads to hippy bullshit like "3rd eye views", "consciouness expansion" etc etc!

someone needs to let there people know its not a religious experience they are having they just put some chemicals in their brains that made them feel artificially happy for a few hours

other bad side effects of drugs can include dancing like a wanker to shit rave music, bad drumming, paying $5 for a bottle of water, fluro clothes, tie die and chicks wearing fairy wings in the middle of fields!
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Are you kidding me? High on X you can't even get a boner
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tried xtasy once and its not such a big deal. You dont feel weird, you can think normal, but the sensations are different. I was enjoying petting my do more than usual . I wont dog it again its not worth it.
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Really? I loved meth. Had to give it up, tho.

It's easy to love it too much.

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And it's true - it's almost impossible to keep a good hard on with a nice dose of X. There are tricks that work, but they are a bit dangerous.

But the nice thing is, on good mdma (X), you don't really care that you can't fuck. Just hanging with the girl is fun enough.
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Really? I loved meth. Had to give it up, tho.

It's easy to love it too much.

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And it's true - it's almost impossible to keep a good hard on with a nice dose of X. There are tricks that work, but they are a bit dangerous.

But the nice thing is, on good mdma (X), you don't really care that you can't fuck. Just hanging with the girl is fun enough.

Ever try Cialis on E?
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I liked yohimbine or yohimbe, actually. Intensified the orgasm a LOT, which the NO drugs like cialis don't do.

But, it pumps up the blood pressure, and there's an even better chance of fainting and headaches than with the NO drugs like viagra cialis etc. So I only suggest yohimbe for experienced users.

And cialis wasn't out yet when I was doing this - just viagra. I preferred yohimbe.
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The part about ex being laced with heroine and rat poison is false. There has never been any evidence and it goes against common sense.. Drug dealers dont put heroine in their pills and then sell that heroin at a loss as extacy.. pure heroine sells well enough on its own.

Anyways alot of misinformation floating around this thread.. go to http://erowid.org for all the information you could ever want about what those things you put into your bodies on the weekend actually do to you..

no, often times x or e (whatever the fuck ya wanna call it... its called "rolls" where i am from) is laced with herion... you can often times tell just by looking at the pill itself... a pill with herion in it is referred to as being "smacky" (as in the street name for herion 'smack') and will have an almost unnoticable brown tint to it...

i had a very close female friend who got hooked on rolls... she was a very VERY beautiful gal (less than 10% of the site girls out there would even be in her league), but she got so bad on it, that she would often times take 10 or more rolls a night.... she did 20 one time, and it killed her... but they were able to revive the girl...

even then she didnt learn her lesson... she kept right on going... last i heard, she was living in columbus with some loser who makes his own rolls and meth... she no longer sees her son, and is pretty much worthless and weighs about 80lbs. literally (80lbs. with dcup implants, can ya imagine how sick that must look...).

i come from a very unsheltered world, and have seen lots of bad shit, lost some very good friends, and seen people who have the gift of being able to fill a room with thier presence, turn into the total opposite of what they once were.

i watched her go from being funny, intelligent, quick witted, and generally a great person to hang out with that was always the life of the party, to being a numb minded irresponsible shell of her former self...

for all i know now, the girl might be dead... she probably is.

its still sad to think about.

im in agreement with a1r3k on this one...recreational use is ok (unless its fucking crack or herion, or some shit like that) but fucking be responsible, and dont turn into a statistic.

im not saying dont do drugs... im saying that if ya do KEEP YA HEAD STRAIGHT ABOUT IT.
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When you start to peak it sucks, you dont know whether your gonna shit or puke.

But once you get coasting its great, or was when I was younger.
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no, often times x or e (whatever the fuck ya wanna call it... its called "rolls" where i am from) is laced with herion... you can often times tell just by looking at the pill itself... a pill with herion in it is referred to as being "smacky" (as in the street name for herion 'smack') and will have an almost unnoticable brown tint to it...

i had a very close female friend who got hooked on rolls... she was a very VERY beautiful gal (less than 10% of the site girls out there would even be in her league), but she got so bad on it, that she would often times take 10 or more rolls a night.... she did 20 one time, and it killed her... but they were able to revive the girl...

even then she didnt learn her lesson... she kept right on going... last i heard, she was living in columbus with some loser who makes his own rolls and meth... she no longer sees her son, and is pretty much worthless and weighs about 80lbs. literally (80lbs. with dcup implants, can ya imagine how sick that must look...).

i come from a very unsheltered world, and have seen lots of bad shit, lost some very good friends, and seen people who have the gift of being able to fill a room with thier presence, turn into the total opposite of what they once were.

i watched her go from being funny, intelligent, quick witted, and generally a great person to hang out with that was always the life of the party, to being a numb minded irresponsible shell of her former self...

for all i know now, the girl might be dead... she probably is.

its still sad to think about.

im in agreement with a1r3k on this one...recreational use is ok (unless its fucking crack or herion, or some shit like that) but fucking be responsible, and dont turn into a statistic.

im not saying dont do drugs... im saying that if ya do KEEP YA HEAD STRAIGHT ABOUT IT.
the term smacky is not because of the heroin... it's because the md puts you on your arse... smacky pills are the best... i'm sorry but looking at pill or judging it by a colour isn't going to tell you what's in it...

also there is no point in lacing a pill with heroin... the cost of heroin alone would make production of pills REALLY HIGH...

also e's aren't physically addictive... learn to have self control...
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the term smacky is not because of the heroin... it's because the md puts you on your arse... smacky pills are the best... i'm sorry but looking at pill or judging it by a colour isn't going to tell you what's in it...

also there is no point in lacing a pill with heroin... the cost of heroin alone would make production of pills REALLY HIGH...

also e's aren't physically addictive... learn to have self control...
the one that puts ya on ya ass has the smack in it, lol.

and yeah, people do put herion in it (im not saying it makes sense, but around here people do do it) dont ask me why... im not into rollin... i did it a few times and stopped.

and yeah herion has a bit of a brown tint to it, so it can and does make it look a different color.

i agree with ya on the whole no physical addictiveness and needing to have self control...

but i been around enough to know what im talking about... maybe they dont put h in it where you come from... but for some reason, they do do it here, and it is common.. why, i have no idea.
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just smoke weed instead... its not a REAL drug, lol.
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Did anyone catch the NBC Dateline report on E? Quite interesting on the effects of it and particularly trying to show that its harmful. Quite a few studies go both ways saying its not harmful and some saying it is. Nevertheless, I'm surprised the DEA has made E a class A drug, it certainly doesn't seem to have the effects like the other class A's.
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I saw that. They tried very hard to find some drawbacks to using E but they couldn't. Whenever NBC (or was it ABC?) can't find a problem with a class a scheduled narcotic I wouldn't worry too much about it

with anything moderation is key. Even Tums will fuck you up if you take too much of it.
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the one that puts ya on ya ass has the smack in it, lol.

and yeah, people do put herion in it (im not saying it makes sense, but around here people do do it) dont ask me why... im not into rollin... i did it a few times and stopped.

and yeah herion has a bit of a brown tint to it, so it can and does make it look a different color.

i agree with ya on the whole no physical addictiveness and needing to have self control...

but i been around enough to know what im talking about... maybe they dont put h in it where you come from... but for some reason, they do do it here, and it is common.. why, i have no idea.
the ones that put you on your arse are md... learn the effects of md and you will see that one of the sensations are dropping your arse all horny and loved up... you'd have more of an idea whats in a pill with a simple e tester rather than looking at a colour (it's hardly reliable but better than just looking at it)... just because a pill is off white/beige doesn't mean it's a speedbomb or smacky... they do come in a VARIETY of colours...

and to put a point across regarding the heroin... the cost of a pill in big drug ring lab only costs a few cents to make... wanting to lace heroin with it would be absolutely pointless as you would be putting up that price 100 fold...
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I did quite a few e's for a couple of years, in the lat 80's early 90's, then moved on to doing coke as I found after a few years of doing e's I was getting paranoid. Both on and off e's. Also towards the end of me doing them, when I took them I would often trip out, just like on acid. Not always a good experiance. So in the end I had to stop taking all hard drugs.

I was quite paranoid for a few years afterwards. But this could just have easily been put down to the amount of pot I smoked. Though I carried on smoking pot for another 10 years. Before giving up a year or so ago. I never had the same paranoya like I did in those e years.

What I will say is I had some of the best times of my life while doing e's certainly the best sex. But I also think, that was due to the times. Late 80's with the whole acid and house club scene in England was amazing. But I would never do one again as long as I live, so draw whatever conclusion you want from that.
Johnny, I am pretty confused by your post. The only conclusion I can come up with after reading it is that I am sad that I missed the late 80's London club scene.
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the ones that put you on your arse are md... learn the effects of md and you will see that one of the sensations are dropping your arse all horny and loved up... you'd have more of an idea whats in a pill with a simple e tester rather than looking at a colour (it's hardly reliable but better than just looking at it)... just because a pill is off white/beige doesn't mean it's a speedbomb or smacky... they do come in a VARIETY of colours...

and to put a point across regarding the heroin... the cost of a pill in big drug ring lab only costs a few cents to make... wanting to lace heroin with it would be absolutely pointless as you would be putting up that price 100 fold...
i stand corrected on the color issue...(im not a chemist, or a big drug user, but due to my job at the time, i ran with some people who were into some stuff.) and i am going off of what i was told by AVID rollers, but i do know that the shit that was going around here (dayton ohio) about 5 years ago (yes im getting old) had herion in it... as you stated, it would drive the cost up to make it, but that was the case here back not too long ago...

maybe it was in an attempt to get people addicted to it???? i dunno.
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Johnny, I am pretty confused by your post. The only conclusion I can come up with after reading it is that I am sad that I missed the late 80's London club scene.

It was such a good time, people wouldnt believe. The drugs were new, the music was new, everything changed. Funny how all the generations since havnt changed much at all. I guess that for the first time the drugs became the scene and the music became secondary to the drugs. I guess thats why the whole clubing scene hasnt changed much at all.

But going to clubs like The Shoom, Unit 4, Rage at Heaven etc, were at the time unreal......I remember the very first time I heard an Acid house record, up till then the club scene was very "rare groove" and hip hop orientated. Hearing Acid house music for the first time was a real fucking experiance.

But again, I wouldnt do acid if someone paid me $100,000.

Glad I was there, but glad its all over for me, I'll leave it for you young ens
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