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dissipate · 12-25-2005, 09:49 AM

So i got my little brother a new video card for x-mas, plugged it in, and the video wouldnt come through on the card, so i plug it back into the onboard video - and that wont work now either. I now know i should have disabled onboard video in the BIOS - but i have no clue why the onboard wouldnt be working now? (removed the new card).... the machine powers on, disks spin... everything seems right..

Any ideas?

PrintAdult · 12-25-2005, 09:52 AM

You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PrintAdult

You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird

Hard to do when i cant get video output from the on board or the new card , lol.

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 10:15 AM

I also noticed that the keyboard lights (num lock, caps lock) do not come on at boot - i suppose the bios isnt even booting?

Dirty F · 12-25-2005, 10:18 AM

format c:

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

format c:

sure if the video would work

just trying to get my kid brother to the point where he can play WoW.lol

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 10:22 AM

is the video card agp or pci-e? what kind of motherboard is it?

geedub · 12-25-2005, 10:22 AM

sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios

Pete-KT · 12-25-2005, 10:23 AM

open up the case and do the bios reset, usually its a jumper you need to move onto the reset pins and that should fix it

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by geedub

sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios

i wouldnt be able to reformat if i wanted to - i have NO VIDEO! lol

I think resetting the BIOS may be a good bet here.... now to figure out where the hell the bios battery is

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 10:24 AM

maybe it's not even the video card.. it may be the ram.. if 1 of the stick is bad you won't get any video. I had that problem when I had bought new ram. 1 of the dimms was fucked so I got no video.. just remove the ram and try it 1 dimm at a time to see what happens.

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 10:28 AM

if it was a driver issue you would still get video. if it really was an issue with drivers you would get video on boot up til it gets to loading windows. then it may fuck up.

Spudstr · 12-25-2005, 10:30 AM

hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!

that would also be something that may have happened

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 10:34 AM

nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

then just reset the bios. take the battery out, put it back it, reboot and see what happens.

devnull · 12-25-2005, 10:48 AM

Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

woj · 12-25-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by devnull

Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

probably best tip so far

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by devnull

Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

that could be it, but why would the onboard video stop working? It wouldn't have affected the onboard video.

Ace_luffy · 12-25-2005, 12:17 PM

i think windows must be detect the new card then.... if yes , install the driver's software .

if not maybe you using a built-in video card which window detect first rather than the new v-card..

CheneyRumsfeld · 12-25-2005, 01:09 PM

did you read the manual that came with the new video card?

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 02:58 PM

So took the BIOS battery out for about 10 minutes - enough time for it to reset if i remember correctly.

The system powers on, but there is no beep through the system speaker when the box powers up. i can hear the hard drive spin up, so all sounds well there. But still no video from the onboard video.....

Any ideas?

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 05:07 PM

Just tried reseting the CMOS with the jumper... no dice.

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 05:23 PM

test out the ram for the hell of it. Take all the dimms out and test them 1 at a time.. Maybe it's not the ram, but you never know.

Project-Shadow · 12-25-2005, 05:26 PM

I was gonna suggest resetting the cmos but you've already done that.
I think your mobo has snuffed it. I had the same issue when switching a graphics card, something just died on the mobo and refused to start. Had to get a new one, hopefully thats not the case, but it sounds similar to a problem I had.

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 05:28 PM

Gonna leave the battery out for the night - 5 minutes probly wasnt enough.

If not im gonna test the ram.

If that doesnt work - new Mobo time

potter · 12-25-2005, 05:29 PM

If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.

dissipate · 12-25-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.

probly either the RAM or the CPU - because the machine is still booting...

Yngwie · 12-25-2005, 08:14 PM

I kept saying it was the ram.. test out the ram. maybe only 1 dimm is fried so you will know. 1 dimm at a time..

Surferdamian2000 · 12-25-2005, 08:22 PM

make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..

Barefootsies · 12-25-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Surferdamian2000

make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..

True dat. I know on the last computer I built, I had to switch out the PS because of the new mobo, and GFX card. They have a min, and I was significantly below it. So that fixed the problem.

Sounds like some of the other advise given's dead on. You might have shorted something out when switching out cards, or messed up the BIOS setting. Also some of the new GFX cards need to be plugged in to the PS, have additional jumpers, etc.

best advise would be make sure to check your manuals (mobo/gfx card), and websites to make sure there is nothing small you are forgetting. if it's not that, and you've tried switching between slots, and updated BIOs and all that jazz. You may have shorted something out. But that would be the LAST thing to conclude before exhausting all other options.

A lot of times with computer stuff, it's something small you just forgot as you were breezing through everything. Hope you work it out brotha.

12-25-2005, 09:49 AM	#1
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Hardware Question So i got my little brother a new video card for x-mas, plugged it in, and the video wouldnt come through on the card, so i plug it back into the onboard video - and that wont work now either. I now know i should have disabled onboard video in the BIOS - but i have no clue why the onboard wouldnt be working now? (removed the new card).... the machine powers on, disks spin... everything seems right.. Any ideas?

12-25-2005, 09:52 AM	#2
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12-25-2005, 10:22 AM	#7
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	is the video card agp or pci-e? what kind of motherboard is it? __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-25-2005, 10:24 AM	#11
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	maybe it's not even the video card.. it may be the ram.. if 1 of the stick is bad you won't get any video. I had that problem when I had bought new ram. 1 of the dimms was fucked so I got no video.. just remove the ram and try it 1 dimm at a time to see what happens. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-25-2005, 10:28 AM	#12
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	if it was a driver issue you would still get video. if it really was an issue with drivers you would get video on boot up til it gets to loading windows. then it may fuck up. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-25-2005, 10:15 AM	#4
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I also noticed that the keyboard lights (num lock, caps lock) do not come on at boot - i suppose the bios isnt even booting?

12-25-2005, 10:18 AM	#5
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	format c:

12-25-2005, 10:22 AM	#8
geedub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: concrete jungle Posts: 3,489	sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios

12-25-2005, 10:23 AM	#9
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	open up the case and do the bios reset, usually its a jumper you need to move onto the reset pins and that should fix it

12-25-2005, 10:30 AM	#13
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12-25-2005, 10:34 AM	#15
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

12-25-2005, 10:48 AM	#17
devnull Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 65	Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

12-25-2005, 12:17 PM	#20
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12-25-2005, 01:09 PM	#21
CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	did you read the manual that came with the new video card?

12-25-2005, 02:58 PM	#22
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	So took the BIOS battery out for about 10 minutes - enough time for it to reset if i remember correctly. The system powers on, but there is no beep through the system speaker when the box powers up. i can hear the hard drive spin up, so all sounds well there. But still no video from the onboard video..... Any ideas?

12-25-2005, 05:07 PM	#23
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Just tried reseting the CMOS with the jumper... no dice.

12-25-2005, 05:23 PM	#24
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	test out the ram for the hell of it. Take all the dimms out and test them 1 at a time.. Maybe it's not the ram, but you never know. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-25-2005, 05:26 PM	#25
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	I was gonna suggest resetting the cmos but you've already done that. I think your mobo has snuffed it. I had the same issue when switching a graphics card, something just died on the mobo and refused to start. Had to get a new one, hopefully thats not the case, but it sounds similar to a problem I had.

12-25-2005, 05:28 PM	#26
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Gonna leave the battery out for the night - 5 minutes probly wasnt enough. If not im gonna test the ram. If that doesnt work - new Mobo time

12-25-2005, 05:29 PM	#27
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video. You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu. __________________

12-25-2005, 08:14 PM	#29
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I kept saying it was the ram.. test out the ram. maybe only 1 dimm is fried so you will know. 1 dimm at a time.. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-25-2005, 08:22 PM	#30
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