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dissipate 12-25-2005 09:49 AM

Hardware Question
 
So i got my little brother a new video card for x-mas, plugged it in, and the video wouldnt come through on the card, so i plug it back into the onboard video - and that wont work now either. I now know i should have disabled onboard video in the BIOS - but i have no clue why the onboard wouldnt be working now? (removed the new card).... the machine powers on, disks spin... everything seems right..

Any ideas?

PrintAdult 12-25-2005 09:52 AM

You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird

dissipate 12-25-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PrintAdult
You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird

Hard to do when i cant get video output from the on board or the new card , lol.

dissipate 12-25-2005 10:15 AM

I also noticed that the keyboard lights (num lock, caps lock) do not come on at boot - i suppose the bios isnt even booting?

Dirty F 12-25-2005 10:18 AM

format c:

dissipate 12-25-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
format c:

sure if the video would work :thumbsup

just trying to get my kid brother to the point where he can play WoW.lol

Yngwie 12-25-2005 10:22 AM

is the video card agp or pci-e? what kind of motherboard is it?

geedub 12-25-2005 10:22 AM

sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios

Pete-KT 12-25-2005 10:23 AM

open up the case and do the bios reset, usually its a jumper you need to move onto the reset pins and that should fix it

dissipate 12-25-2005 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geedub
sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios


i wouldnt be able to reformat if i wanted to - i have NO VIDEO! lol

I think resetting the BIOS may be a good bet here.... now to figure out where the hell the bios battery is

Yngwie 12-25-2005 10:24 AM

maybe it's not even the video card.. it may be the ram.. if 1 of the stick is bad you won't get any video. I had that problem when I had bought new ram. 1 of the dimms was fucked so I got no video.. just remove the ram and try it 1 dimm at a time to see what happens.

Yngwie 12-25-2005 10:28 AM

if it was a driver issue you would still get video. if it really was an issue with drivers you would get video on boot up til it gets to loading windows. then it may fuck up.

Spudstr 12-25-2005 10:30 AM

hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!

Yngwie 12-25-2005 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr
hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!


that would also be something that may have happened

dissipate 12-25-2005 10:34 AM

nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

Yngwie 12-25-2005 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissipate
nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

then just reset the bios. take the battery out, put it back it, reboot and see what happens.

devnull 12-25-2005 10:48 AM

Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

woj 12-25-2005 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devnull
Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

probably best tip so far :thumbsup

Yngwie 12-25-2005 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devnull
Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.


that could be it, but why would the onboard video stop working? It wouldn't have affected the onboard video.

Ace_luffy 12-25-2005 12:17 PM

i think windows must be detect the new card then.... if yes , install the driver's software .

if not maybe you using a built-in video card which window detect first rather than the new v-card..

CheneyRumsfeld 12-25-2005 01:09 PM

did you read the manual that came with the new video card?

dissipate 12-25-2005 02:58 PM

So took the BIOS battery out for about 10 minutes - enough time for it to reset if i remember correctly.

The system powers on, but there is no beep through the system speaker when the box powers up. i can hear the hard drive spin up, so all sounds well there. But still no video from the onboard video.....

Any ideas?

dissipate 12-25-2005 05:07 PM

Just tried reseting the CMOS with the jumper... no dice.

Yngwie 12-25-2005 05:23 PM

test out the ram for the hell of it. Take all the dimms out and test them 1 at a time.. Maybe it's not the ram, but you never know.

Project-Shadow 12-25-2005 05:26 PM

I was gonna suggest resetting the cmos but you've already done that.
I think your mobo has snuffed it. I had the same issue when switching a graphics card, something just died on the mobo and refused to start. Had to get a new one, hopefully thats not the case, but it sounds similar to a problem I had.

dissipate 12-25-2005 05:28 PM

Gonna leave the battery out for the night - 5 minutes probly wasnt enough.

If not im gonna test the ram.

If that doesnt work - new Mobo time

potter 12-25-2005 05:29 PM

If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.

dissipate 12-25-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter
If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.

probly either the RAM or the CPU - because the machine is still booting...

Yngwie 12-25-2005 08:14 PM

I kept saying it was the ram.. test out the ram. maybe only 1 dimm is fried so you will know. 1 dimm at a time..

Surferdamian2000 12-25-2005 08:22 PM

make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..

Barefootsies 12-25-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferdamian2000
make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..

True dat. I know on the last computer I built, I had to switch out the PS because of the new mobo, and GFX card. They have a min, and I was significantly below it. So that fixed the problem.

Sounds like some of the other advise given's dead on. You might have shorted something out when switching out cards, or messed up the BIOS setting. Also some of the new GFX cards need to be plugged in to the PS, have additional jumpers, etc.

best advise would be make sure to check your manuals (mobo/gfx card), and websites to make sure there is nothing small you are forgetting. if it's not that, and you've tried switching between slots, and updated BIOs and all that jazz. You may have shorted something out. But that would be the LAST thing to conclude before exhausting all other options.

A lot of times with computer stuff, it's something small you just forgot as you were breezing through everything. Hope you work it out brotha.

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