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Old 12-25-2005, 11:42 AM   #1
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more than 15%/yr return in passive investment, is it still feasible?

Can you still make more than 15% annually in passive investments over a long term period?
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:44 AM   #2
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if you have a business plan and work it correctly
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:50 AM   #3
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Doesn't sound too hard, if you invest in a growth index fund, you can probably do that over long time frames....
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:54 AM   #4
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15% lol. Yes.
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:59 AM   #5
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my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt)
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:59 AM   #6
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my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year,
awesome, is it sth local in your country or an US fund?
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:02 PM   #7
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my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt)
which funds?
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:10 PM   #8
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awesome, is it sth local in your country or an US fund?
one US fund and one EURO fund

woj: I would need to look for the papers, I bought them through Generali, dont remember the symbols
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:15 PM   #9
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20% a month is a bad month for me
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:18 PM   #10
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i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture
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Old 12-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #11
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if you have a business plan and work it correctly
What business plan! I'm refering to investing money without doing any additional work on my part.
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Old 12-25-2005, 03:31 PM   #12
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my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt)
Are they gold and natural resources funds?
Over the last 12 months, I did an average return of 14.69%; and 12.46% over the last 5 years which is below my expectation...
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:14 PM   #13
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i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture
With 1 million cash, I could make over 25% on my equity in my area real estate market but i would have to manage it as well.
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:24 PM   #14
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Are they gold and natural resources funds?
Over the last 12 months, I did an average return of 14.69%; and 12.46% over the last 5 years which is below my expectation...
no, those are funds with many companies in each...its WIOF funds if Im correct, after 20 years, the average growth should be 15% yearly, what would be awesome, because with only few bucks spent monthly, it could get me a fat retirement
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:50 PM   #15
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i laughed inside when a Merril Lynch rep told me that their investments were at 7%growth. I'm currently working on a $1.5m investment with $5.4m return where $2.1m is guaranteed by the government.

So the question shouldn't be is 15% feasible, but rather is there something better than 15%. Good luck with your investments.
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:37 PM   #16
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we are talking about investments without working...or much thinking...
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:18 PM   #17
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i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture
heres the problem with that... you can easilly borrow, lets say 10mil, at 7-8% interest ... now if you can make 18% ..thats a 10% profit above what the loan would cost you on repayments.

If it were this easy, everyone would be doing it
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:39 PM   #18
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This is an easy one ... domain names

100%+ annualized returns are common ... and this is for names that have been bought second-hand, not new ~$10 regs. Such returns are happening in all price ranges, including high-end 5, 6, 7+ figure domains.

Ie. I sold a domain just the other day for $2500 that I paid $499 about 2 years before. And another for $500 that I paid around $200 about a year before. Both names were undeveloped - just pointed to parking.

If "passive" is what you're seeking, domain names is where you should be looking ...

Click my sig below to get started ... see what is possible in the domain name business.

Ron

p.s. another benefit to investing in domains is there are no property taxes, no transfer taxes, no zoning issues, virtually no maintenance, etc - it doesn't get much easier than that.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:08 AM   #19
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heres the problem with that... you can easilly borrow, lets say 10mil, at 7-8% interest ... now if you can make 18% ..thats a 10% profit above what the loan would cost you on repayments.

If it were this easy, everyone would be doing it
People with means do that all the time.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:10 AM   #20
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:13 AM   #21
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Can you still make more than 15% annually in passive investments over a long term period?
Yep.. It's called land.

Choose carefully, - buy it cheap - sit on it, - and watch it increase in value.

15% is a modest increase for land values. They don't make land anymore
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:30 AM   #22
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Yep.. It's called land.

Choose carefully, - buy it cheap - sit on it, - and watch it increase in value.

15% is a modest increase for land values. They don't make land anymore
Buying land is too much trouble. In some city, they make you pay twice the tax rate for a vacant land and force you to maintain the land.
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