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Quotealex 12-25-2005 11:42 AM

more than 15%/yr return in passive investment, is it still feasible?
 
Can you still make more than 15% annually in passive investments over a long term period?

Pete-KT 12-25-2005 11:44 AM

if you have a business plan and work it correctly

woj 12-25-2005 11:50 AM

Doesn't sound too hard, if you invest in a growth index fund, you can probably do that over long time frames....

chadglni 12-25-2005 11:54 AM

15% lol. Yes.

andrej_NDC 12-25-2005 11:59 AM

my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt) :)

polish_aristocrat 12-25-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year,

awesome, is it sth local in your country or an US fund?

woj 12-25-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt) :)

which funds?

andrej_NDC 12-25-2005 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
awesome, is it sth local in your country or an US fund?

one US fund and one EURO fund

woj: I would need to look for the papers, I bought them through Generali, dont remember the symbols

azguy 12-25-2005 02:15 PM

BetOnMarkets.com

20% a month is a bad month for me

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 02:18 PM

i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture

Quotealex 12-25-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT
if you have a business plan and work it correctly

What business plan! I'm refering to investing money without doing any additional work on my part.

Quotealex 12-25-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
my 2 funds did grow by 30% and 60% last year, but thats a long term plan(20 years), so it can be 5% this year(even though I hope it isnt) :)

Are they gold and natural resources funds?
Over the last 12 months, I did an average return of 14.69%; and 12.46% over the last 5 years which is below my expectation...

Quotealex 12-25-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture

With 1 million cash, I could make over 25% on my equity in my area real estate market but i would have to manage it as well.

andrej_NDC 12-25-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal
Are they gold and natural resources funds?
Over the last 12 months, I did an average return of 14.69%; and 12.46% over the last 5 years which is below my expectation...

no, those are funds with many companies in each...its WIOF funds if Im correct, after 20 years, the average growth should be 15% yearly, what would be awesome, because with only few bucks spent monthly, it could get me a fat retirement

3M TA3 12-25-2005 05:50 PM

i laughed inside when a Merril Lynch rep told me that their investments were at 7%growth. I'm currently working on a $1.5m investment with $5.4m return where $2.1m is guaranteed by the government.

So the question shouldn't be is 15% feasible, but rather is there something better than 15%. Good luck with your investments.

andrej_NDC 12-25-2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 3M TA3
I'm currently working

we are talking about investments without working...or much thinking... :)

d00t 12-25-2005 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'll offer someone 18%

but i need more than a million. will secure with substaintial equity too.

can pay back in 1-3 years

stable with impressive 5+ year track record - both me and venture

heres the problem with that... you can easilly borrow, lets say 10mil, at 7-8% interest ... now if you can make 18% ..thats a 10% profit above what the loan would cost you on repayments.

If it were this easy, everyone would be doing it

Ron Bennett 12-25-2005 09:39 PM

This is an easy one ... domain names

100%+ annualized returns are common ... and this is for names that have been bought second-hand, not new ~$10 regs. Such returns are happening in all price ranges, including high-end 5, 6, 7+ figure domains.

Ie. I sold a domain just the other day for $2500 that I paid $499 about 2 years before. And another for $500 that I paid around $200 about a year before. Both names were undeveloped - just pointed to parking.

If "passive" is what you're seeking, domain names is where you should be looking ...

Click my sig below to get started ... see what is possible in the domain name business.

Ron

p.s. another benefit to investing in domains is there are no property taxes, no transfer taxes, no zoning issues, virtually no maintenance, etc - it doesn't get much easier than that.

Quotealex 12-28-2005 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by d00t
heres the problem with that... you can easilly borrow, lets say 10mil, at 7-8% interest ... now if you can make 18% ..thats a 10% profit above what the loan would cost you on repayments.

If it were this easy, everyone would be doing it

People with means do that all the time.

detoxed 12-28-2005 09:10 AM

It always is and always will be possible in any country or civilization you find yourself in.

Webby 12-28-2005 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal
Can you still make more than 15% annually in passive investments over a long term period?

Yep.. It's called land.

Choose carefully, - buy it cheap - sit on it, - and watch it increase in value.

15% is a modest increase for land values. They don't make land anymore :winkwink:

Quotealex 12-28-2005 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Yep.. It's called land.

Choose carefully, - buy it cheap - sit on it, - and watch it increase in value.

15% is a modest increase for land values. They don't make land anymore :winkwink:

Buying land is too much trouble. In some city, they make you pay twice the tax rate for a vacant land and force you to maintain the land.


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