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neverlearn · 12-25-2005, 01:42 PM

100 bottles of beer on the wall...

potter · 12-25-2005, 01:47 PM

I think everyone should go to AA. Why the hell not? It's a damn good learning experience.

Cheers.

Barefootsies · 12-25-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by neverlearn

100 bottles of beer on the wall...

Choker · 12-25-2005, 06:01 PM

Wow, lot's of armchair alchoholism experts here.

Fact is that alcholism is a disease not a addiction. Ask any doctor, any medical group, any social worker, any expert and they will tell you this. The AMA has recognized alcholism as a disease for some time now. The genome project is even supposedly close to isolating the gene that can trigger alchoholism.

There is no one sympton that defines a alchoholic, but the most common sign is if you get a buzz and have a hard time stopping then chances are you are a alchy. Of course there are all the other indicaters that you may have, letting booze interfere with your job, relationships, etc. Being able to not pick up the first drink means nothing, many alchys can go months even years without drinking. It's their ability to put down the drink that matters.

Crack, cocaine, etc addictions are NOT diseases, there is a big difference. Alcholics and addicts suffer from totally different problems.

SleazyDream · 12-25-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Wow, lot's of armchair alchoholism experts here.

Fact is that alcholism is a disease not a addiction. Ask any doctor, any medical group, any social worker, any expert and they will tell you this. The AMA has recognized alcholism as a disease for some time now. The genome project is even supposedly close to isolating the gene that can trigger alchoholism.

There is no one sympton that defines a alchoholic, but the most common sign is if you get a buzz and have a hard time stopping then chances are you are a alchy. Of course there are all the other indicaters that you may have, letting booze interfere with your job, relationships, etc. Being able to not pick up the first drink means nothing, many alchys can go months even years without drinking. It's their ability to put down the drink that matters.

Crack, cocaine, etc addictions are NOT diseases, there is a big difference. Alcholics and addicts suffer from totally different problems.

not sure i agree that drug users cann't be classified as diseases

SleazyDream · 12-25-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Cool. I asked because most hardcore 12 step people say that you are never cured and can never take a drink etc. again without completely falling off the wagon and becoming a raving drunk/druggie. I've always disagreed, so its interesting to hear a real person's perspective.

i disagree as well. my dad was aa. he's been clean for about 35 years. stopped going to meetings about 20 years ago. started havin wine with dinner about 10 years ago. he never has more than a glass and a half. rarly has a drink at night - then only one. he says he just doesn't feel the same urges he used to. but he said he didn't start feeling like that till he was sober for over 20 years.

MikeHawk · 12-25-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

the disease model of addiction is debatable both ways. quite a bit has been written on it each way.

its really hard to say anything is wrong or for the weak, that can bring a person from misery to happiness. join a program. join a church. join a community, sell books in an airport, dive into work. join a gym. be part of something that makes you happy.

i will be the first one to say that there is no right way or wrong way to live a better life. i do think that there are heathier things to rely on other than alcohol.

many many people drink without a problem.

The Irish pimp knows his shit....he walks the walk......

happy holidays brotha...

Great post, enlighten and discussion is good....it?s the very heart of recovery.

Religion is really not part of the deal, "turn your life over to God ...as YOU understand him" That is the great fail safe message to choose what ever you choose your higher power is...just so long as its NOT YOU.

I consider myself Spiritual....the mere definition of the two could be written like this:

Religion is for those who don?t want to go to hell.....

Spirituality is for those who have been to hell and don?t want to go back!

Another thing I found over the years for me were the very reasons we do this to ourselves and why? I think for me it was a deep rooted ?I don?t deserve it? thought of myself. I used drugs and booze to just sabotage all good that came my way?some do it with food, gambling and other things that can make you self destruct.

MikeHawk · 12-25-2005, 09:04 PM

Much better word than disease could be epidemic

Jman · 12-25-2005, 09:23 PM

"Spirituality is for those who have been to hell and don?t want to go back!"

A fucking Men my brother ;-)

Dukes · 12-25-2005, 09:30 PM

AA is for quitters

TreasureBucks · 12-26-2005, 01:18 AM

alcholism isnt a disease.

its pretty damn good sign of stupidity and carelessness though.

My sister died of ovarian cancer at age 27.
Watching her slip away from us in her hospital bed, and when she would stare at me, knowing she was going to die. Her eyes said hopelessness and fear... She was so scared. If she could have done something to stop it, like something as easy as quitting drinking. She would have done it. She would done anything to hold on to see her kids grow up.

Alcohol isnt a disease, and I dont feel sorry for people who have a choice and choose to slowly kill themselves and destroy other peoples lives around them. Calling it a disease just gives these idiots something else to blame it on, other then themselves.

Kimmykim · 12-26-2005, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bjjb

I spent about 6 years in AA. Didnt drink or do any drugs at all for about 9. Then I figured it out. I really didnt have a drinking problem. My life was just fucked up. Alcohol was a factor but it wasnt the big thing I thought it was.

Interesting... someone I used to work with, years ago, ended up doing a stint in rehab for partying, mostly to appease his family, since he wasn't behaving very nicely at all.

Now, years later, he's got a new family, can have a few glasses of wine with dinner or cocktails out and about, no issues at all with the partying taking over.

He really just needed a new life, it seems.

Juicy D. Links · 12-26-2005, 02:33 AM

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