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Old 12-24-2005, 11:25 PM   #51
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either way everyone should be able to give me an average

But thanks I was just trying to prove there is no program doing a 1000 sales a day but everyone is afraid of bursting there bubble and not that many doing 100 either alot less than most people think

but anyway back to would you hit this threads
i can guarentee you adult friend finder is doing more than 1000 sales a day
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:25 PM   #52
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1000 sales a day... that's a shitload of cash
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:26 PM   #53
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i can guarentee you adult friend finder is doing more than 1000 sales a day

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Old 12-24-2005, 11:31 PM   #54
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thank you! so your average overall was 1/842 very close to ours
not bad at all I personally think its great and not many do this well


do you have exit traffic? what is the average to all the sponsors you send too?
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:32 PM   #55
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either way everyone should be able to give me an average

But thanks I was just trying to prove there is no program doing a 1000 sales a day but everyone is afraid of bursting there bubble and not that many doing 100 either alot less than most people think

but anyway back to would you hit this threads
im starting a board for real math is that against the rules to say that?

im exactly on your thinking, even if some people have these sales questions figured out, i dont know why there can never be threads that try and discover things in the good nature of learning or discourse.

even if people KNEW some of this I don't see whats wrong with going through it. seems like people really wanna keep the threads to interpersonal stuff
or try and hide their trade 'secrets'.

BVCASH nice post hehe. so like 100 joins a day.\ off how many uniques i gotta hit back.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:37 PM   #56
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i can guarentee you adult friend finder is doing more than 1000 sales a day
if everyone posted there average with them we would have a good idea

they do have a shit load of traffic but is that new traffic joining daily or people just checking it out and coming back to log in etc.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:41 PM   #57
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im starting a board for real math is that against the rules to say that?

im exactly on your thinking, even if some people have these sales questions figured out, i dont know why there can never be threads that try and discover things in the good nature of learning or discourse.

even if people KNEW some of this I don't see whats wrong with going through it. seems like people really wanna keep the threads to interpersonal stuff
or try and hide their trade 'secrets'.

BVCASH nice post hehe. so like 100 joins a day.\ off how many uniques i gotta hit back.

Personally I think everyone inflates there numbers alot

there are no trade secrets with numbers because we were working on averages.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:41 PM   #58
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thank you! so your average overall was 1/842 very close to ours
not bad at all I personally think its great and not many do this well


do you have exit traffic? what is the average to all the sponsors you send too?
We don't send our exit traffic to other sponsors as our consoles only have our own sites on them. Our affiliates get full credit for the sales and they can also choose to turn them on or off if they wish.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:44 PM   #59
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BVCASH nice post hehe. so like 100 joins a day.\ off how many uniques i gotta hit back.
More like 200+ sales per day.

Very respectable in this day and age, BV!



I remember the days at CE when we were doing 5,000+ sales EVERY DAY without fail ... DAMN, that was 5 years ago!



Funny though, I know affiliates networks in mainstream that are doing that NOW!

Times have certainly changed!

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Old 12-24-2005, 11:47 PM   #60
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We don't send our exit traffic to other sponsors as our consoles only have our own sites on them. Our affiliates get full credit for the sales and they can also choose to turn them on or off if they wish.

I bet that helps the conversions as well either way those are great numbers. I send to alot of programs and not many do that well
that is almost exactly our numbers amazing and congrats and here I thought we were the best
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:47 PM   #61
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if everyone posted there average with them we would have a good idea

they do have a shit load of traffic but is that new traffic joining daily or people just checking it out and coming back to log in etc.
SOME THINGS I NEVER POST PUBLICALLY. SORRY
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:11 AM   #62
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I can understand not singling out one sponsor but and average between all your sponsors is not a big deal
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:24 AM   #63
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More like 200+ sales per day.

Very respectable in this day and age, BV!



I remember the days at CE when we were doing 5,000+ sales EVERY DAY without fail ... DAMN, that was 5 years ago!



Funny though, I know affiliates networks in mainstream that are doing that NOW!

Times have certainly changed!



Either your holding out or I call BS what mainstream anything is doing that many sales a day except for amazon or ebay etc. with paper money
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:32 AM   #64
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I can understand not singling out one sponsor but and average between all your sponsors is not a big deal
UMMM, that would be your opinion. Not mine. sorry.
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:51 AM   #65
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Either your holding out or I call BS what mainstream anything is doing that many sales a day except for amazon or ebay etc. with paper money
I AM holding out AND you can call bullshit if you want - the world outside of Adult is a BIG PLACE

There are more than several companies in mainstream that you have never heard of doing 4 - 6000 sales per day AND MORE, brotha!

IMHO, the mainstream affiliate world is where adult was in 1999/2000 but with WAY MORE OPPORTUNITIES!

Today, Adult content may be the most searched for on the web, but has MORE BANDWIDTH SUCKING FREELOADERS than buyers.

Plus, it has more savvy and educated buyers that know the game and just buy trials and cancel and move from site to site. The smart surfer that uses online porn to bust a nut KNOWS that he can take $1 or $2.95 trials CANCEL immediately, rub one out and comeback again a couple times per month going from site to site.

RINSE AND THEN REPEAT!

They know they don't have to get banged for $39.95 or even $24.95 recurring and can spend far less doing the aforementioned

Times have changed there's several hundred million more shoppers online today than were online in 1999/2000 ... and when they are looking for something in the mainstream - they're willing to pull out their credit cards in larger numbers than ever!

You don't have to take my word for it, but it's true!

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Old 12-25-2005, 02:20 AM   #66
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Little info on the world outside of adult... http://www.wilsonweb.com/cat/cat.cfm...at=cd_Demograf

There are some highly searched terms on the net that have nothing to do with adult, casino, eBay and Amazon. These terms also have fewer websites even trying to get any part of each $.

Also you were asking why people don?t post there stats (for the most part... I would post stats but really what would they mean to you. I work with some people that convert at less then 1:10 and other that send the wrong traffic to the wrong sites. (gay traffic to MILF site etc...) So you can see how posting the over all General Stats would mean as much as me just pulling a number out of my ass.

Personally I use as a rule 1:500, If something does not convert better then 1:500 then there is a problem... with the (to name just a few) the site, marketing, traffic, link location, targeted traffic, images being used, etc... You also need to keep in mind that tgp, LL, MGP, exits, PPC, SEO, etc.... traffic all have a different rate of conversion. If I was to see 1:800 ration on a 6th page exit I may not change a thing (other then my expectations of getting a better then 1:500 ratio) But if I saw 1:800 off well targeted PPC traffic, I would see this as a big problem.
So as you can see each website has its own traffic, layout, ... And will have to find what works best for them and the traffic they are getting.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:36 AM   #67
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:47 AM   #68
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over 1mil, close to 1.5mil i would say
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Either your holding out or I call BS what mainstream anything is doing that many sales a day except for amazon or ebay etc. with paper money

on the 1000s range
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:00 AM   #70
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The net is no different to direct response advertising in print or TV media. Depends if it's a sunny day, what bad news is floating around etc - far to many variables to generalise.

Tho... on the net there is probably more of a "leveling" when ya wind in the "net buying continents" where regional variances may not have a major effect on the overall.

The "average" has gotta be in the range 200:1 thru 2000:1, but with variances either side of that.

Very happy to see 500:1 or less, twitching at 1000:1 and "why are we here?" when conversions are over 1000:1.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:10 AM   #72
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I AM holding out AND you can call bullshit if you want - the world outside of Adult is a BIG PLACE

There are more than several companies in mainstream that you have never heard of doing 4 - 6000 sales per day AND MORE, brotha!

IMHO, the mainstream affiliate world is where adult was in 1999/2000 but with WAY MORE OPPORTUNITIES!

Today, Adult content may be the most searched for on the web, but has MORE BANDWIDTH SUCKING FREELOADERS than buyers.

Plus, it has more savvy and educated buyers that know the game and just buy trials and cancel and move from site to site. The smart surfer that uses online porn to bust a nut KNOWS that he can take $1 or $2.95 trials CANCEL immediately, rub one out and comeback again a couple times per month going from site to site.

RINSE AND THEN REPEAT!

They know they don't have to get banged for $39.95 or even $24.95 recurring and can spend far less doing the aforementioned

Times have changed there's several hundred million more shoppers online today than were online in 1999/2000 ... and when they are looking for something in the mainstream - they're willing to pull out their credit cards in larger numbers than ever!

You don't have to take my word for it, but it's true!

This industry hasn?t changed much the recurring has always been about the same and the sales are still very high. The only thing that has changed is the number of programs and sites its all divided by. Yes there are many savvy surfers who know how to get it free and just as many new surfers coming on daily who don?t.

As far as mainstream goes people are allot more comfortable purchasing items online now then they were before.

Money is easy to make in any field if you know what you are doing whether it?s adult, online or a brick and mortar biz there is money everywhere you just need to know how to obtain it.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:15 AM   #73
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I thought you bought the source code...

WTF...

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In about a month or so you will be surprised that?s all I can say right now. So I can?t comment on it yet.

There are many reasons why I haven?t bought it yet. And I still feel it?s a superior product haven?t had any issues with it at all yet. Just haven?t had the times to implement a few things that are not of great importance to our success
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:19 AM   #74
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over 1mil, close to 1.5mil i would say

thank you!
I asked for two very simple questions how many uniq hits do you think it would takes to do a 1000 sales and whats your average conversion between all your traffic.
there is a madness to my thinking
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:44 AM   #75
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The sponsor I send the most traffic to takes me 331,000 uniques per thousand sales I make.
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Roger does pornopushers do 100 joins a day yet?
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Roger does pornopushers do 100 joins a day yet?
yes we do but that because I've been in the biz for a short while

I doubt we would be if I just started new in the biz
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The sponsor I send the most traffic to takes me 331,000 uniques per thousand sales I make.
that sounds great but you only deal with one sponsor?
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Lets say with and without trials?

post your numbers
Didnt I just make that thread?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=556029
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:38 PM   #81
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