RogerV

Lets say with and without trials?

post your numbers

Krille

1000 uniq if they all signup

xclusive

no way to tell

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FabianC

250,000 - 500,000k

woj

depends on the traffic source.....

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MetaMan

this question goes down with "how many sales can i make in a day by submitting to the hun?"

poe

what if some sign up twice?

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RogerV

its all numbers what do you think is the average from your own experience?

what do you convert at overall with all sponsors whats the average 1/1000, 1/2000 ? then times the average by a 1000

RogerV

You really are an idiot Have you ever made a sale in your life?

if so what was your average conversion use your head its not that difficult to come up with a number if you are a real webmaster.

if your overall average is 1/1000 on yur stats remote or whatever

times that by 1000 and its a Million hits a day

once again how many uniq hits a day do you think it takes to make 1000 sales

Doctor Dre

That's not really the way to see it...

That's traffic sent to sponsors... but how many hits are actually needed to send 1000 clicks to sponsors? that's the question... then you can count. but it depends so much on the kind of traffic and such, it can't be answered

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tony286

your talking lots and lots of traffic

joshuawk

100,000 PURCHASED uniques doing 1/600 is
166 signups a day from the program standpoint.

1/400 would be 250 sales a day.

1/200 would be 500 sales a day.

I sent dollarmachine 5000 uniques the other day at 1/423.
but all typein traffic.

if dollarmachine has 19 other guys like me they are probably doing
200 something a day in signups.

What ratio does PURCHASED pay per sale traffic usually convert at?

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WiredGuy

We talking about SEO traffic, gallery traffic, TGP/MPG traffic, P2P traffic, mail traffic? There's way too many factors to generalize like that.
WG

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MattO

Here's some math. I have a site that does 10K SE hits a day, and makes 10-12 PPS a day. So to do 1000 a day, that same site would have to get 96 to 100 times the traffic, or about 1 million search engine hits a day.

RogerV

whats your overall average then times it by 1000 I'm sure you have one I know I do..

I want to see what it is for everyone so I can average it out

get my drift

joshuawk

If rough numbers are okay, then you can. They might not be right on but theyll generally be consistent.

You can estimate anything to a pretty good degree of accuracy.

Just average all the sources, SEO, TYPEIN TGP, ALL of them into one.

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RogerV

would you say thats a on a good or bad day?

joshuawk

so you're converting at 1/1000? is that normal for google traffic?

I own typein domains so I'm used to 1/167 ratios even unfiltered, as commonplace, I dont know anything about any other traffic.

if youre a program owner, your whole system have a AVERAGE conversion ratio. like epiccash, whatever, has a TOTAL system AVERAGE.

some program owner should tell us affiliates a true average ratio for ALL their traffic combined.

first or second page clicks.

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RogerV

Exactly every talks about how easy it is. they cant even give me an estimate

its not rocket sience

my average with our program and sending to others is about 1/3000

so I would say about 3 mil hits a day


even if I converted 1/100 someone I send to converts at 1/6000

All I'm looking for is a guestimate on your experience so we can come up with an average

joshuawk

a few affiliates with shitty traffic would fuckup your whole system wide ratio but post it anyways

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RogerV

Exactly also webmasters can tell through Stats remote or unified stats etc.

What our program does and what others we send to is very mixed but there is an average

we can come close to how many hits it takes for a program or site to do 1000 sales a day

RogerV

what is considered shitty? 1/5000 might be great for a tgp?

SleazyDream

too general a question - all depends on the quality of the traffic

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Doctor Dre

How do you generate that traffic thought ? for every 1000 hits I send to sponsors, I must get at least 10 000... that's with awesome CTR for tgp traffic...

If you are talking about paysite traffic, then you can count...

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RogerV

is 1/167 your average then it would take 167,000 hits a day for you to do 1000 sales a day is that average on with or without trials?

RogerV

what I'm asking is whats your average to all sponsors you send to some might be better than other but there is an average on your traffic.

then times it by 1000 to get how many hits it takes to do a 1000 sales per day

AmateurFlix

Just to estimate, for average TGP traffic 5% CTR and a sponsor converting at 1:1000, would be 20 million uniques per day.

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RogerV

I'm asking for your guestimate of course its going to be differant for everyone but everyone should have an idea off there own numbers.

then once everyone gives me what they think off there own info we can average it out.

RogerV

not all sponsors convert at 1/1000

what is the average between all the sponsors you send to? there is a number

DirtyDanza

we count first page hits... and if we were to to 1000 signups a day then you figure if our program converts say 1:900 then we would need about 1mil uniques a day to reach a 1000 sales... and I been doing paysites for a while now and it's very hard to see better than say 1/600 program wide.. meaning all your sites all your traffic combined... cause we all have affiliates that send blind/popup/exit/gallery/ectect so the traffic is not always targeted... I have some affiliates that convert 1/2k but get alot of sales a day and some that convert 1/100 but only send like 200 hits a day so it will all differ for an affiliate to get 1000 sales depending on his traffic source... if you had a million of ebony uniques comming in on one of my sites I would prolly only do like 50-100 joins because my niche is hardcore throat fucking or solo girl hardcore throatfucking.. know what I mean... lots of traffic is good but lots of non targeted traffic is not good... I mean you will get sales but out of a million uniques you will just get a giant spike in bandwith and prolly only break even on the deal know what I mean? give us a try... today program wide were converting 1/643 thats all sites total and all traffic... not to bad.. but also not alot of traffic today... http://www.danzabucks.com I would say if you can send up 1000 sales in a day I will give you a 1000 dollar bonus as well.... I am curious to see it as well... it's also safe to say if you send a program something like 5mil uniques you shuold have 1000 sales easy... thats only if it's semi targeted traffic

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SleazyDream

it's too general.

example.

with one sponser i may get 200,000 page views - 1000 clickthoughs - and 6 sales

with another i get 150,000 page views, 8500 clickthoughs and 8 sales


on one site i advertise with i get 200 clickthoughs for every sale - on another it's 1500 - and i make money on both.... so i don't get caught up in traffic numbers cause it leads me to think all traffic is the same and it isn't. I just worry about my bottom line. that's it. money in money out and i never try and talk conversions. i talk about profitability - replace the term conversions with profitability and you'll go a LOT further.....

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RogerV

not all sponsors convert at 1/1000

what is the average between all of the sponsors you send to? there is a number what is yours maybe all you have is shit traffic and it takes 1/10000 thats ok you can still profit depending on what you paid for it

just because someone does 1/50 doesnt mean they make more or do more sales so dont be ashamed to post your overall conversion between all sponsors

DirtyDanza

thats a good one.. I like that

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RogerV

what is the average between all of the sponsors you send to? there is a number what is yours maybe all you have is shit traffic and it takes 1/10000 thats ok you can still profit depending on what you paid for it

just because someone does 1/50 doesnt mean they make more or do more sales so dont be ashamed to post your overall conversion between all sponsors

so what is your overall average between all sponsors

PAR

if you already have a site then you have all thst stats you already need
raw hits/page 1 tour hits/sighup hits / signups or just raw hits / sighups
8/4/2/1
would mean you would need 8000 hits to get 1000 sales
if you convert at 1:300 (page 2 tour hits to 1 signup)
then you would need
1200/600/300/1
1200 * 1000 = 1,200,000 hits per month to make 1000 sighups

joshuawk

thats my average with trials, typein traffic.

no MATTER what my traffic, if this was nasdaq and affil programs had to file SEC and more specific data

There would be general averages for affiliate programs, probably in the 1/3000 range or whatever you said because youre an owner who isnt BS and isn't afraid of releasing numbers.

no MATTER what doctor dre or whoever says its not possible to count, there would be a pretty consistent average from the affiliate owners side of things.

In any other business besides adult, executives would not even move forward on a plan, if they couldn't make generalizations and average projections.

you dont even have to rely on a projection, but atleast look at it as a possibility. if we convert 1/3000 system wide, we would need this many hits, if we convert
1/6000 we would need this many hits, and if we convert 1/10000 we would
need this many hits.

atleast you would know a minimum of hits you'll need and a maximum.

That is only THREE scenarios, that is narrowed down PLENTY and far from impossible to figure out.

fuck the affiliates. yea, maybe some guys like karups or private programs would be just amazingly better than the average, but in general if you had a list of system wide ratios for the top 100 affiliate programs like 75% of them would be in the same area.

it's simple math and not impossible at all. so what if the traffic sources are
different. there are INDUSTRY wide averages.

i dont believe you cant figure out how many hits it takes. 10th grade algebra teaches you to do extremely accurate estimations.

I dont know why everybody on here refuses that there could be an accurate estimation made. Most likely the average last grade completed in this industry/GFY is 11th grade, hence, the reluctance to do any math more than 3 steps long.

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RogerV

you guys cant even give me a simple number how can you even guess how many sales programs do. but everyone is so easy to say many programs do 100 sales a day or 1000 LOL

a few of you did and thanks the bottom line is I was trying to prove a point

I personally think it takes any program aprox. 3mil hits a day to do 1000 trial sales

now how many programs do that?

AmateurFlix

my own ratios fluctuate constantly as does everyones; this month overall 1:1141 last month 1:1036

of course this also includes lots of traffic sent to programs that turned out to be duds that don't convert very well (1:6000 or worse) and programs that get under 1:300 (some under 1:100) consistently with tgp traffic

CTR also varies greatly from gallery to gallery, anywhere from 40%+ (blind links) to <1% and that I have no way of tracking overall as easily. 5% is a good estimate though.

So my 20 million estimate for overall traffic is pretty close.

I do have one sponsor that for a while was getting 10% CTR from custom galleries I made and converting at 1:200. So in that instance it would only take 2 million hits to galleries to generate 1k sales per day, but that was a special case. And doing the math on it now, I'm really kicking myself for not putting more effort into getting more traffic to that sponsor LOL

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SleazyDream

i talk profitability - not conversion averages. sorry. just how i define my business.

i'm not going to slam a high traffic site that doesn't convert as well as a lower traffic site but makes me more sales and more money bottom line. I just look for profitability - bottom line. that's it. I end it there.

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RogerV

thank you maybe everyone is afraid to give there average or most dont have traffic or a clue

not sure why anyonwe would be afraid its an average off your traffic if everyone did it we would get a good guesstimate and put all the bullshit aside

RogerV

come on sleazy I understand that. you can still give me an average without involving the name of the programs

I know you have an average between them all?

BTW i was just giving you an example not saying you have shit traffic

I/m just trying to get an average from everyone

SleazyDream

won't do it or say it cause my average is nowhere near my median if that gives you an hint.


besides - i'm just a lowly TGP guy. I don't make any money. I just give away porn to try and make people happy!

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joshuawk

apparently roger they dont believe in AVERAGES

personally I do, was trying to help you. but everyone here is affiliates and you need to know the average from the program owners side.

is GFY like 70% affiliates and like 30% program owners, or is it like 50/50
hmmmmm

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MetaMan

lol lol a lil testy tonight are we? i responded in both your threads you should be happy that i read them.

your question made little sense to me, it totally depends on the sponsor, what niche i am pushing the most at the time etc etc.

i really dont understand how i could have answered this question unless i owned my own program, in which i do not.

RogerV

giving me an average on what your traffic overall does with sponsors wont give away how much traffic you have or money you make.

my overall sending to all sponsors so far this month is 1/2250 on uniq hits just checked my stats remote actually I expected it to be worse

so over all I would guess it takes

2,250,000 uniq hits a day to do 1000 trial sales without trials I would double it to
5 mil hits a day to do 1000 sales

so my question to you all is how many programs do 5 million hits a day?

AmateurFlix

whatever the figure is it's going to be damn hard or impossible for any one person or program to send that much traffic to ONE site, at least with TGP traffic anyhow. Those capable of getting 1k joins per day are more likely to be promoting a large variety of sites.

If it was possible for one person to get that much TGP traffic to one site, issues of saturation would probably alter the ratios so much that it wouldn't scale up the same way that these little guestimates do.

There might be some SEO guys that could generate enough traffic to get those results though.

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RogerV

either way everyone should be able to give me an average

But thanks I was just trying to prove there is no program doing a 1000 sales a day but everyone is afraid of bursting there bubble and not that many doing 100 either alot less than most people think

but anyway back to would you hit this threads

BV

RogerV

Sorry i wast just getting fustrated

you dont have to be a sponsor to have an overall average

if you used stats remote it would do it for you on all the traffic and sales you send to all programs its just an average or you could do it on your own but it would take a while since you would have to go into each program to get the average numbers you did with them then calculate it all.

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