Important Update Regarding VISA Lolita, Peda, Preteen Rule - GoFuckYourself.com

Epoch · 04-03-2002, 04:38 PM

VISA has communicated to their Acquiring Banks today that they are extending this rule to prohibit settling transactions for content which is considered to be 'child erotica'.

VISA considers child erotica to be 'suggested' child pornography and they are now including this type of content in their prohibition.

Merchants are no longer allowed to settle transactions for any sites (commonly referred to as lolita sites), which have images of unclothed boys or girls under the age of 18. The penalty for settling transactions with this type of content (as well as Bestiality) is termination from the VISA program.

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Pipecrew · 04-03-2002, 05:07 PM

Good!

here comes the big debate

Lensman · 04-03-2002, 05:11 PM

It's about time.

Wizzo · 04-03-2002, 05:15 PM

Thumbs up to Visa

Jayson · 04-03-2002, 05:19 PM

This one I agree with, wasnt so sure about the beastie descision but this one is different, while they claim that the pictures are art etc its the mass collection of them in one place that is really objectionable.

Jayson

FATPad · 04-03-2002, 05:25 PM

Good.

Gary · 04-03-2002, 05:29 PM

First they took my beast sites, now they take my "art" sites, next they're gonna stop processing for my sites with animals shitting on teens. *sigh*

spacedog · 04-03-2002, 05:31 PM

So.. this means no Animals getting fucked by underage teens who shit in an arty setting..

Gary · 04-03-2002, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
So.. this means no Animals getting fucked by underage teens who shit in an arty setting..

TIme to leave the business.

zubr · 04-03-2002, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
So.. this means no Animals getting fucked by underage teens who shit in an arty setting..

thats right... and no underaged dogs fucked in space

Shoplifter · 04-03-2002, 05:46 PM

This is the right decision. There is no way that these kids are not being exploited economically or otherwise.

spacedog · 04-03-2002, 05:49 PM

I think it's the right decision to be made.. put those fuckers out of business.. now they just need to get all the other CC's & billing companies to follow suit...

Techie Media · 04-03-2002, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
It's about time.

Agreed

TheFLY · 04-03-2002, 06:47 PM

more traffic and more $$ for me ;)

RAM · 04-03-2002, 06:55 PM

I have to say I agree to....but what is next.....?

Will they say no more interracial or how about Toys ...?

But I would like to see them say something about the Rape sites or sites that impley rape

m0rph3us · 04-03-2002, 07:28 PM

Good. bye bye Most erotic Teens

Va2k · 04-03-2002, 09:36 PM

About fucking time

I agree 100% on BOTH

HeadPimp · 04-03-2002, 09:42 PM

Next they will pull the plug on the drunks fucking trees sites! (Yes I have seen someone doing this...)

Aussie Rebel · 04-03-2002, 09:43 PM

Good On Ya Visa Bout Time

ihateastro · 04-03-2002, 09:46 PM

FUCKING A.

Visa should have done this shit Loooong ago.

Jamdin · 04-03-2002, 09:47 PM

Does that include all the anime/hentai/toon sites that has the Simpsons & the Jetsons doing each other?

And why is there two lightbulbs in the Message Icon at the top of the reply page?

jimmyf · 04-03-2002, 09:49 PM

Oh shit and I just bought a bunch of teen dogs
fucking older women content.... Wonder if I can get my money back...

Brad Mitchell · 04-03-2002, 10:16 PM

I'm quite glad that Visa's doing this with the child stuff, finally a way to get 'em in the pocket.

Brad

MikeEP · 04-03-2002, 10:23 PM

I agree as there was never a question about simulating underage porn.

I just curious what they'll ban next. Seems typical...ban all the shit everyone hates, get them on your side, then slowly move your way into banning mainstream porn.

I hope im wrong.

Brad Mitchell · 04-03-2002, 10:28 PM

I don't like censorship but I hate the CP so much I'm thrilled that they made that decision. However yes, it does beg the question when the other 'shoes' will drop... Will they ban sites that use certain keywords even if there aren't illicit visual depictions... will they ban bdsm or some other fetish area. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Perhaps they'll just leave it as it stands now, wouldn't that be nice.

Brad

ADIDAS · 04-03-2002, 10:32 PM

Its about fuckin time they crack down!

Good job VISA! Finally behind your decisions! At least for this one!

MikeEP · 04-03-2002, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Perhaps they'll just leave it as it stands now, wouldn't that be nice.

I don't think this industry is that lucky.

421Fill · 04-03-2002, 10:34 PM

ServerGenius · 04-04-2002, 01:31 AM

First of all let me say I totally agree that these kind of sites need
to get shutdown asap...they are a plague to our industry! However......I don't like Visa to be the censor!!!! These sites
will still not dissapear there will always be a dialer company
who is clapping at Visa and sends them a box of chocclates with
a thank you for the business card attached to it.

Let governments adjust laws so that this kind of content will be
illegal....I fully understand that that is not going to happen soon
but I totally dissagree that Visa is going to decide for the world
what is good for visa cardholders to see and what is not. This
is the second ban within a month...and I have a feeling it's not
going to stay with this one.....

Again how good it may seem because of the type of content which
should be illegal and should be banned no discusson possible on
that....But Visa is moving in the direction of slowly banning any adult content....'becuase that's where it is going!

DynaMite

Theo · 04-04-2002, 01:42 AM

good news

what's next? celebrities
stay tuned

Brujah · 04-04-2002, 02:00 AM

Dammit think about this.

Why did VISA need to make this rule ? Why did the processors even ALLOW it in the first place ?

[Labret] · 04-04-2002, 02:07 AM

Cause it was legal.

ServerGenius · 04-04-2002, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Why did VISA need to make this rule ? Why did the processors even ALLOW it in the first place ?

Because sadly enough it complies with the law, it's not illegal
and at first they just thought dollars!

DynaMite

kmanrox · 04-04-2002, 02:09 AM

i am a bit delirious, so excuse me if i am naive... but this means only NUDE underage girls?

or does it mean provacitely clothed girls like that lilamber.com site as well?

they are both bad, just wondering if lilamber type of site is above the law??

DarkJedi · 04-04-2002, 02:34 AM

i dont think celebs are going to get banned - there is nothing illegal there. Public content so what.

ServerGenius · 04-04-2002, 02:37 AM

Quote:

i dont think celebs are going to get banned - there is nothing illegal there. Public content so what.

So was animal and this "Art" content and yes I know that in some
countries this was illegal...Visa never billed in those countries...
in some countries harcore porn or even showing pubic hair is illegal too....

DynaMite

bhutocracy · 04-04-2002, 02:51 AM

it's a slippery slope...

we can do without beast and simulated CP... it's just the next one that im worried about.. watersports? celeb? voyeur? after this we're really starting to get into grey areas of good and bad..

Brujah · 04-04-2002, 03:04 AM

Visa should *NOT* be the one making these decisions. If its legal, the ones needing to address it are the lawmakers. I don't want a company like VISA making all the rules. Fuckers.

Be afraid.

Theo · 04-04-2002, 04:14 AM

i hope i'm right. I made a single A.Kourn.... gallery for personal use that i enjoy often

04-03-2002, 04:38 PM	#1
Epoch Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marina del Rey, CA Posts: 193	Important Update Regarding VISA Lolita, Peda, Preteen Rule VISA has communicated to their Acquiring Banks today that they are extending this rule to prohibit settling transactions for content which is considered to be 'child erotica'. VISA considers child erotica to be 'suggested' child pornography and they are now including this type of content in their prohibition. Merchants are no longer allowed to settle transactions for any sites (commonly referred to as lolita sites), which have images of unclothed boys or girls under the age of 18. The penalty for settling transactions with this type of content (as well as Bestiality) is termination from the VISA program. Clay Epoch http://www.epochsystems.com/sales

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04-03-2002, 10:23 PM	#24
MikeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 464	I agree as there was never a question about simulating underage porn. I just curious what they'll ban next. Seems typical...ban all the shit everyone hates, get them on your side, then slowly move your way into banning mainstream porn. I hope im wrong.

04-03-2002, 10:28 PM	#25
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	I don't like censorship but I hate the CP so much I'm thrilled that they made that decision. However yes, it does beg the question when the other 'shoes' will drop... Will they ban sites that use certain keywords even if there aren't illicit visual depictions... will they ban bdsm or some other fetish area. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Perhaps they'll just leave it as it stands now, wouldn't that be nice. Brad

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ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	First of all let me say I totally agree that these kind of sites need to get shutdown asap...they are a plague to our industry! However......I don't like Visa to be the censor!!!! These sites will still not dissapear there will always be a dialer company who is clapping at Visa and sends them a box of chocclates with a thank you for the business card attached to it. Let governments adjust laws so that this kind of content will be illegal....I fully understand that that is not going to happen soon but I totally dissagree that Visa is going to decide for the world what is good for visa cardholders to see and what is not. This is the second ban within a month...and I have a feeling it's not going to stay with this one..... Again how good it may seem because of the type of content which should be illegal and should be banned no discusson possible on that....But Visa is moving in the direction of slowly banning any adult content....'becuase that's where it is going! DynaMite __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good news what's next? celebrities stay tuned

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04-04-2002, 02:07 AM	#32
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04-04-2002, 02:09 AM	#34
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,295	i am a bit delirious, so excuse me if i am naive... but this means only NUDE underage girls? or does it mean provacitely clothed girls like that lilamber.com site as well? they are both bad, just wondering if lilamber type of site is above the law?? __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

04-04-2002, 02:34 AM	#35
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i dont think celebs are going to get banned - there is nothing illegal there. Public content so what.

04-04-2002, 02:51 AM	#37
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	it's a slippery slope... we can do without beast and simulated CP... it's just the next one that im worried about.. watersports? celeb? voyeur? after this we're really starting to get into grey areas of good and bad..

04-04-2002, 03:04 AM	#38
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Visa should NOT be the one making these decisions. If its legal, the ones needing to address it are the lawmakers. I don't want a company like VISA making all the rules. Fuckers. Be afraid. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-04-2002, 04:14 AM	#39
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