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Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 06:22 AM

Simplicity.

I want to find my linking code with 10 seconds.
I want to download promo content with 10 seconds.
etc.

Adult elite for example has a great setup. Point and click and with 2, max 3 clicks you have everything you need.

Why am i not using a program like ARS for instance? I have no CLUE whats going in their webmaster area. I want to promote them. Not learn how to use them first.

demented · 12-16-2005, 06:26 AM

I'd say our program falls into those specs

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:28 AM

Frank why are you always crying?

man up, will ya?

FYI: ARS has great webmaster area. You just need to have half a brain and spend some time figuring things out.

Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 06:29 AM

Not crying. Giving opinion.

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Frank why are you always crying?

man up, will ya?

FYI: ARS has great webmaster area. You just need to have half a brain and spend some time figuring things out.

That's his point (not the half of a brain part though - lol)... he likes simplicity... I know exactly what he is talking about. Some webmaster areas can be very confusing, and confusing enough to immediately be turned off by them...

Quotealex · 12-16-2005, 06:31 AM

I want to be able to grab all the FHG and HFS within 5 secondes with a text description per gallery in the format I want.

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

That's his point (not the half of a brain part though - lol)... he likes simplicity... I know exactly what he is talking about. Some webmaster areas can be very confusing, and confusing enough to immediately be turned off by them...

Well, making money takes some work.

Why do you all think that adult business is some game where you just have fun, don't do much and get paid good money?

Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 06:32 AM

Its not that ARS is that hard to figure out but why would i? I simply move on to the next program with nice sites but ones where i can start sending them traffic instead of figuring out their webmaster area.

Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Well, making money takes some work.

Why do you all think that adult business is some game where you just have fun, don't do much and get paid good money?

Well, the thing is, if there were only 10 programs to promote i would spend time on the area webmaster area. But i can pick 100's of other programs that are potentially easier to work with.

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Well, making money takes some work.

Why do you all think that adult business is some game where you just have fun, don't do much and get paid good money?

Why be a dick? It's his opinion... sounds to me like you need some attention or at least a hug... calm down, everything is going to be okay

dissipate · 12-16-2005, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Simplicity.

I want to find my linking code with 10 seconds.
I want to download promo content with 10 seconds.
etc.

Adult elite for example has a great setup. Point and click and with 2, max 3 clicks you have everything you need.

Why am i not using a program like ARS for instance? I have no CLUE whats going in their webmaster area. I want to promote them. Not learn how to use them first.

I would say my expectations are about the same
Oh yeah, thier content needn't suck either.

Quotealex · 12-16-2005, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Well, making money takes some work.

Why do you all think that adult business is some game where you just have fun, don't do much and get paid good money?

Why can some sponsors Keep It Stupid and Simple, KISS?

DutchTeenCash · 12-16-2005, 06:37 AM

weve got point n click, once you login to the webbie area its all copy n paste, fhg export, links, potds etc etc.

We didnt and I can tell you with the new V2 version signups for DTC are a LOT more and questions a lot less. So copy n paste works yes.

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Why be a dick?

How am I being a dick?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

... sounds to me like you need some attention or at least a hug...

sounds to me like you need some attention.
stop replying to me with your nonsense, surfer.

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

stop replying to me with your nonsense, surfer.

And what do you do in this business? Let's see it... tool

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

And what do you do in this business? Let's see it... tool

If I showed you what I did, dumb surfers like would copy it to death and run it into the ground.

No thanks, I'd like to keep making money.

Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 06:42 AM

Now now girls, calm down.

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

If I showed you what I did, dumb surfers like would copy it to death and run it into the ground.

No thanks, I'd like to keep making money.

Listen, why would I copy it if I'm a surfer? Hello, this is your ass and that is your elbow... capiche?

You come into a thread where the guy is voicing his opinion (like you do every thread you post in) and you attempt to shit all over it. Every thread you create has absolutle NOTHING to do with this business...

Who's the surfer? Fuck off... you keep making yourself look more and more like a twat the more you post (or attempt to).

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Now now girls, calm down.

*Takes a deep breath*

DutchTeenCash · 12-16-2005, 06:45 AM

Harmon : camrabbit is a tool, worthless posts worthless replies nothing ontopic and a waiste of time

Harmon · 12-16-2005, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

Harmon : camrabbit is a tool, worthless posts worthless replies nothing ontopic and a waiste of time

Thanks... already realizing that. I'm ignoring him now... C'est la vie

Now, back on topic

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

You come into a thread where the guy is voicing his opinion (like you do every thread you post in) and you attempt to shit all over it.

I never did shit over it. I too, voiced my oppinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Every thread you create has absolutle NOTHING to do with this business...

Atleast I make SOME threads. You on the other hand have 6000 post and never posted a signgle thread. All you do is whore your sig in other peoples threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Who's the surfer? Fuck off...

You are the surfer. Or a sigwhore. Or both.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

you keep making yourself look more and more like a twat the more you post (or attempt to).

Sorry, you're confusing me with yourself.

CamRabbit · 12-16-2005, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

Harmon : camrabbit is a tool, worthless posts worthless replies nothing ontopic and a waiste of time

You're a waste of time yourself, idiot. 99% of your posts are your programs SPAM.

Too cheap to buy a banner space?

More Booze · 12-16-2005, 06:57 AM

I agree! I hate when I have to click through several pages with fancy flash graphic and popups and shit.... I tend to use such programs less than other sponsors were I can get the stuff I need fast.

Brujah · 12-16-2005, 06:58 AM

Franck, sounds like a great project for a simple but useful resource site with link codes organized by sponsor, niche, etc.

andrej_NDC · 12-16-2005, 07:03 AM

I have a special section for webmasters like you:
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/full_list.htm
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/fhg/

StuartD · 12-16-2005, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamRabbit

If I showed you what I did, dumb surfers like would copy it to death and run it into the ground.

No thanks, I'd like to keep making money.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=549091

Dirty F · 12-16-2005, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I have a special section for webmasters like you:
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/full_list.htm
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/
http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/fhg/

yeah that looks good.

Violetta · 12-16-2005, 07:31 AM

I agree... Keep it stupid and simple!

Juilan · 12-16-2005, 07:50 AM

time is money makes sense.

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

Why can some sponsors Keep It Stupid and Simple, KISS?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

There was a time when the webmaster made their own galleries, changed the FHG's to suit their purposes, bought their own content.

Why can't the webmaster get off his ass and do some work? They expect the sponsor to do all the work and still get a 40 dollar payout.

Sad to see this happen, in such a short period of time.

andrej_NDC · 12-16-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

yeah that looks good.

bigdog · 12-16-2005, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

There was a time when the webmaster made their own galleries, changed the FHG's to suit their purposes, bought their own content.

Why can't the webmaster get off his ass and do some work? They expect the sponsor to do all the work and still get a 40 dollar payout.

Sad to see this happen, in such a short period of time.

Thats the way it is now, sponsors made it that way. Also don't forget about the free hosting

Tom_PM · 12-16-2005, 08:11 AM

Thanks for using AE as an example of being simple to use. Both PimpRoll and AdultElite were designed to be very easy.
But seriously, ARS and others arent too hard either ;)
Even with simple to use interfaces, I always grab them in bulk and learn the variables/options so I can whip up whatever I need. Paste to a spreadsheet or simple database of some sort is a nice idea.

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

Thats the way it is now, sponsors made it that way. Also don't forget about the free hosting

A few did, and the rest followed suit. People are inherently lazy. Webmasters wonder why they make less money, ummm.... you are all using the same FHG's, doing the exact same thing.

It's a sad vicious cycle.

Matt_WildCash · 12-16-2005, 08:16 AM

I think you'll find Wildcash.com has one of the most simple promo material sections ever. Very easy and fast to find what your after. I totally agree, a few sponsors make it hard to find content but most aren't too bad these days.

Antonio · 12-16-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

There was a time when the webmaster made their own galleries, changed the FHG's to suit their purposes, bought their own content.

Why can't the webmaster get off his ass and do some work? They expect the sponsor to do all the work and still get a 40 dollar payout.

Sad to see this happen, in such a short period of time.

hey, nobody's forcing you to make FHGs, give free content, free hosting etc
you can do business like it's 1996 again

the webmasters will simply move to a sponsor that makes their life easier

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

hey, nobody's forcing you to make FHGs, give free content, free hosting etc
you can do business like it's 1996 again

the webmasters will simply move to a sponsor that makes their life easier

Of course. Then they complain they aren't making money or being shaved.

Vicious cycle.

Nickatilynx · 12-16-2005, 08:20 AM

So you all market the same programs with the same content and methods and then wonder why it doesn't convert.... ???

LOL

I prefer programs that say "Nick get the surfer to me anyway you can , I'll convert it"

Never use a banner where a text link will do...

andrej_NDC · 12-16-2005, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

There was a time when the webmaster made their own galleries, changed the FHG's to suit their purposes, bought their own content.

Why can't the webmaster get off his ass and do some work? They expect the sponsor to do all the work and still get a 40 dollar payout.

Sad to see this happen, in such a short period of time.

more sponsors = bigger and harder competition, thats normal, not good not bad, just normal

fedfest · 12-16-2005, 08:22 AM

There's a big difference in not wanting to work, and not wanting to waste time though.

I've allways made my own stuff when promoting and never used fhg's and other hosted/premade stuff because i find that the self made promos simply sell better and make me more money, and i've never minded spending that time and work..

..however when having to search through a program to find my reff codes 4-5 pages deep just because the script comes with some options that aren't activated for the site anyways, then that's wasting the time i could have spent working.

Something that anoys me even more is downloading a lot of content that i can't use anyways because there wasn't a propper preview of what i was getting, programs like that i pretty soon just stop using as they just waste the time i could otherwise have been working with something more productive.

Good thing about it all though, is that when you get tirred enough of things like that you can make your own program and try to make things right

Don't know if we did this with rewardthem, guess that would be for our affiliates to judge, but we sure did make things easy to get and made good previews for everything.

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

more sponsors = bigger and harder competition, thats normal, not good not bad, just normal

I agree mate. Don't get me wrong. I've had Franck as an affiliate, he is one of the few out there that knows what the Hell he's doing. It's the others who think just because Franck can do it, they can too and have no idea the time he spends or the quality of traffic he has.

Antonio · 12-16-2005, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Of course. Then they complain they aren't making money or being shaved.

Vicious cycle.

I honestly don't get, if you don't like your affiliates then cut them off and use your own traffic

hell, if I was a program owner I'd love to have affiliates that send at least 50 signups a day, never bitch, never seek support, never bother me on ICQ, but unfortunately in real that doesn't happen

andrej_NDC · 12-16-2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

I agree mate. Don't get me wrong. I've had Franck as an affiliate, he is one of the few out there that knows what the Hell he's doing. It's the others who think just because Franck can do it, they can too and have no idea the time he spends or the quality of traffic he has.

yup, I got your point, man

RogerV · 12-16-2005, 08:32 AM

I understand thats why ours is easy to grab what you need and fast. and we are going to streamline it even more..

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

I honestly don't get, if you don't like your affiliates then cut them off and use your own traffic

hell, if I was a program owner I'd love to have affiliates that send at least 50 signups a day, never bitch, never seek support, never bother me on ICQ, but unfortunately in real that doesn't happen

Every one want's affilaites that can send 50 signups a day, the sad truth is that anyone who can send 50 signups a day opens up their own program.

"Better to have 100 sending 1 a day, then 2 sending 50 a day" rings true. Unfortuantely, out of that 100, maybe 30 can send 1 or more a day.

You think it's complaining, I'm voicing my views on how different webmasters have become. Take it for what it's worth.

bigdog · 12-16-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Every one want's affilaites that can send 50 signups a day, the sad truth is that anyone who can send 50 signups a day opens up their own program.

"Better to have 100 sending 1 a day, then 2 sending 50 a day" rings true. Unfortuantely, out of that 100, maybe 30 can send 1 or more a day.

You think it's complaining, I'm voicing my views on how different webmasters have become. Take it for what it's worth.

i see more of the guys who do real well with tgps and galleries in particular opening up their own paysites

Antonio · 12-16-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Every one want's affilaites that can send 50 signups a day, the sad truth is that anyone who can send 50 signups a day opens up their own program.

"Better to have 100 sending 1 a day, then 2 sending 50 a day" rings true. Unfortuantely, out of that 100, maybe 30 can send 1 or more a day.

You think it's complaining, I'm voicing my views on how different webmasters have become. Take it for what it's worth.

well, I'm hoping to have my own program by the end of next year (knocking on wood) so may be then I'll understand your point better, but I've seen so many threads on GFY where it's US vs THEM (sponsors vs affiliates) and they don't really make sense to me

are the affiliates more spoiled and demanding than 2-3 years ago? I'm sure they are but take a look how many programs they can choose from...

Nickatilynx · 12-16-2005, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

i see more of the guys who do real well with tgps and galleries in particular opening up their own paysites

Might have something to do with when you send traffic to yourself you see signups from the same traffic go up 30% or more... ;-))

5k to the right outsourced design company gets you a handful of your own paysites ...spend a thou a mth on content...and you are away.

Anthony · 12-16-2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

well, I'm hoping to have my own program by the end of next year (knocking on wood) so may be then I'll understand your point better, but I've seen so many threads on GFY where it's US vs THEM (sponsors vs affiliates) and they don't really make sense to me

are the affiliates more spoiled and demanding than 2-3 years ago? I'm sure they are but take a look how many programs they can choose from...

Good luck to you on opening your own program.

Affiliates are about the same 2 to 3 years ago, that's when all this FHG mania took off. Notice as well that having affiliate managers got real big to handle the affiliaite service.

As I said earlier, we had alot of traffic and signups, so we opened up our own pay sites circa 2000/2001.

12-16-2005, 06:22 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Program owners - this is why i do use your program or not Simplicity. I want to find my linking code with 10 seconds. I want to download promo content with 10 seconds. etc. Adult elite for example has a great setup. Point and click and with 2, max 3 clicks you have everything you need. Why am i not using a program like ARS for instance? I have no CLUE whats going in their webmaster area. I want to promote them. Not learn how to use them first.

12-16-2005, 06:28 AM	#3
CamRabbit Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 574	Frank why are you always crying? man up, will ya? FYI: ARS has great webmaster area. You just need to have half a brain and spend some time figuring things out. __________________

12-16-2005, 06:32 AM	#8
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Its not that ARS is that hard to figure out but why would i? I simply move on to the next program with nice sites but ones where i can start sending them traffic instead of figuring out their webmaster area. Last edited by Dirty F; 12-16-2005 at 06:34 AM..

12-16-2005, 06:37 AM	#13
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	weve got point n click, once you login to the webbie area its all copy n paste, fhg export, links, potds etc etc. We didnt and I can tell you with the new V2 version signups for DTC are a LOT more and questions a lot less. So copy n paste works yes. __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

12-16-2005, 06:45 AM	#20
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	Harmon : camrabbit is a tool, worthless posts worthless replies nothing ontopic and a waiste of time __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

12-16-2005, 06:26 AM	#2
demented Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,388	I'd say our program falls into those specs

12-16-2005, 06:29 AM	#4
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Not crying. Giving opinion.

12-16-2005, 06:31 AM	#6
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	I want to be able to grab all the FHG and HFS within 5 secondes with a text description per gallery in the format I want.

12-16-2005, 06:42 AM	#17
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Now now girls, calm down.

12-16-2005, 06:57 AM	#24
More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	I agree! I hate when I have to click through several pages with fancy flash graphic and popups and shit.... I tend to use such programs less than other sponsors were I can get the stuff I need fast.

12-16-2005, 06:58 AM	#25
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Franck, sounds like a great project for a simple but useful resource site with link codes organized by sponsor, niche, etc. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-16-2005, 07:03 AM	#26
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	I have a special section for webmasters like you: http://www.nextdoorcash.com/full_list.htm http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/ http://www.nextdoorcash.com/content/fhg/

12-16-2005, 07:31 AM	#29
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I agree... Keep it stupid and simple! __________________ M&A Queen

12-16-2005, 07:50 AM	#30
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	time is money makes sense. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

12-16-2005, 08:11 AM	#34
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Thanks for using AE as an example of being simple to use. Both PimpRoll and AdultElite were designed to be very easy. But seriously, ARS and others arent too hard either ;) Even with simple to use interfaces, I always grab them in bulk and learn the variables/options so I can whip up whatever I need. Paste to a spreadsheet or simple database of some sort is a nice idea. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

12-16-2005, 08:16 AM	#36
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	I think you'll find Wildcash.com has one of the most simple promo material sections ever. Very easy and fast to find what your after. I totally agree, a few sponsors make it hard to find content but most aren't too bad these days. Last edited by Matt_WildCash; 12-16-2005 at 08:17 AM..

12-16-2005, 08:20 AM	#39
Nickatilynx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: International Gypsy Posts: 819	So you all market the same programs with the same content and methods and then wonder why it doesn't convert.... ??? LOL I prefer programs that say "Nick get the surfer to me anyway you can , I'll convert it" Never use a banner where a text link will do...

12-16-2005, 08:22 AM	#41
fedfest Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,334	There's a big difference in not wanting to work, and not wanting to waste time though. I've allways made my own stuff when promoting and never used fhg's and other hosted/premade stuff because i find that the self made promos simply sell better and make me more money, and i've never minded spending that time and work.. ..however when having to search through a program to find my reff codes 4-5 pages deep just because the script comes with some options that aren't activated for the site anyways, then that's wasting the time i could have spent working. Something that anoys me even more is downloading a lot of content that i can't use anyways because there wasn't a propper preview of what i was getting, programs like that i pretty soon just stop using as they just waste the time i could otherwise have been working with something more productive. Good thing about it all though, is that when you get tirred enough of things like that you can make your own program and try to make things right Don't know if we did this with rewardthem, guess that would be for our affiliates to judge, but we sure did make things easy to get and made good previews for everything. __________________ RewardThem Now Paying Up To 70% Revshare ! Top Converting CCbill affiliate program that will keep your members rebilling. No Traffic Leaks, No Popups, No Bullshit.. You get Credited For EVERYTHING !

12-16-2005, 08:32 AM	#45
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	I understand thats why ours is easy to grab what you need and fast. and we are going to streamline it even more..