Well, the protocol is the attributed blog should be the more senior, which in this case is mine, so that is fine. Mike, would normally link to me, having excerpted me. And I would not be able to link to Mike. I might not even know Mike, he might have just found my blog and liked the story. But, when you have a friend named Mike with a blog, or just two blogs, you can arrange it so the subject of the article is the bloogging blog, and (THEREFORE) also being blogged -- make sense. This throws the spider for a tizzy. I guess this is a good time to say that just making the spider have to look at something really hard, becasue it's never seen anytrhing like that is a good thing -- :)


2hp

It should be no secret to anyone at this point that there IS a difference between blogroll links and link in posts.

:)

Google is EXTREMELY familiar with the structure of vBulletin. There are tens of thousands of well-indexed vB boards out there. When it comes in here, it already knows what a sig is -- and think about, just logically -- if there is this wad of code in the same place every time you post, and the spider sees it is there whenever "you" are there, it simply integrates into You. Like If I am a doctor, I know what a hand is, I have studied-up on hands real good in anatomy class. When I new patient comes into my office, I don't run to him in amazement and wonder what those 5-pointed things are at the ends of his arms. I presume to look for DIFFERENCE -- "How is this specimen NOT like the rest?" The doctor thus forms his diagnosis, the spider its place for you in its heart.

Links in posts are where a blogger would indicate his INTENTIONS, his ACTIVE VOLITION AND PREJUDICES would be in evidence there. Those are the things that blogsbyhumans have plenty of. Now, the blogroll on that there blog, is not link any blogroll you've ever seen -- :)


2hp

Well, you have completely succeeded in confusing me

Whoops, sorry about that. Let's try that again.

Long before blogs and blogging had reached the staggering popularity they have today, there

was an understanding of Reciprocal Linking in the Adult Biz. Simple "You gimme a link, I'll

give ya a link" evolved into complex scripts that balance not only for volume but for

converting "quality", developed by some of the most talented innovators in all of e-marketing,

people who post right here on this board. Later, a greater awareness of SEO principles

introduced relative PR into the list of issues you had to consider when you recipped with

another site. The impact of linking relationships between blogs, both to their respective

Page Rankings AND the WAYS in which the SE's will index them is built on the principles of

Relevancy (an arithmetical calculus), BUT also begin to integrate some of the new principles

of TRUST. TRUST IS REPLACING RELEVANCY, FYI, as the basis of Page Rank. See PDF linked

above.

To continue with the example of my blog (*******************.com) and Mike's new blog

(internextlive.com), we have an imbalance of PR, an imbalance of "maturity" (DB size/# of

posts) and an imbalance of age (inception date).

Normally, all that would be recommended is the now conventional "blogging it" link, which

happens when a blogger wants to excerpt another blogger's post on his site. As I describe in

the article, you should always link up, never down (save for the loophole 5:1). Google

rewards this when done right, because #1) you have proven yourself capable of identifying

"quality" (as determined by the Spider's opinion of the site you choose to link to), and #2)

because you are adding descriptive value to a pre-existing item in the index. You do this

with a "more" link on the basic end of the spectrum, or more complexly, via careful selection

of anchor text for the link to the single-post permalink of the article you are blogging.

That would be as illustrated by link 1. in the sketch below.


http://profitlabinc.com/PROFITBLOG/G...KING_BLOGS.png

However (and I can already here my Uber-rationalist friends from across the pond and up north begin

to froth at the mouth), something rather trippy happens when two blogs recip as

illustrated in link 2. Remember, blogs are not expected to be in a (let's call it) "tight" recip

with other blogs. By tight recip I mean post-to-post. A "loose" recip would be

[blogA/post5]>[blogB/post33]:[blogB/post40]>[blogA/post7], for example. There is a formula in

the PDF above that lets you resolve a hard value for TrustRank from such a relationship. But

the beauty of TrustRank is it's intuitive, assuming you have any familiarity with trust or

bein trusted -- lol.

Look at at this way: The senior blog has conferred "trustability" upon the junior blog by

linking to it from an ORIGINAL post (that's KEY), which the junior blog has blogged. If the

senior blog just blogged one of the junior blogs posts, that would (under most circumstances)

violate TrustRank and hurt the Senior blog, and do nothing for the junior blog. This gets

around that -- :)


2hp

Let's make this simple.

The ultimate reciprocal link in blogging is called the trackback.

You can not trackback to yourself. In this post ( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...6&postcount=64 ) it appeared to me that was what you were trying to accomplish.

That is where you lost me.

No, that's completely different. What I did above was, essentially force a liason between elements by bringing them together inside a "content unit" (a blog post, a BBS post, etc.) and other elements which would add definition to that liason for being indexed.

It's like if I don't know Harry and I know Joe and I know that Joe has a friend Sam who speaks French, and I see Harry and Joe and Sam in a room, speaking French, it tells me something about all of them that I did not know.


2hp

Well, to be precise, unless one is signing, and you can sign in French, you can't really see anyone speaking French. So, if you hear Harry speaking French you know that about him no matter what Joe or Sam are doing, no matter their relationship.

I guess I just don't get it . . . but would not be the first time.

Oh, you know what I mean, silly.


2hp

Hi,

I've just made some changes that will at least double the traffic to this site:

http://profitlabinc.com/SEO/IN.png

Within 5 days.


Watch -- :)


2hp

"DivisionTrust"

Line-making and Line-tending in Light of Trustrank

"
The classification systems we use everyday and all over the world are based almost entirely on arbitrary and subjective diferences between things. That two people can disagree on whether Object A belongs in Category 1 or Category 2 begins to illuminate an important problem faced by the Google Spider, as it is today. If two persons, with all five senses in good working order, can disagree on fundamental classification, how can the Spider, which is blind, serve them both...more

Keys are for "doors".

To cross a bridge, all you need is to pay the toll -- :)

hi! nice read... you hvae established good arguments and i must agree with some of them.

Dont be a troll Jack ! only trolls want a fee to cross the bridge :winkwink:

i am the bridge

aha you bumped this old thread... thats surprising :1orglaugh

always a little bit of time left out there :glugglug :glugglug

me too...another bridge :glugglug :glugglug

You sir are insane. Coming from someone that is trying to make sense of it all thanks. :thumbsup

but, of couse, totally insane in a good way :thumbsup :thumbsup

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