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Chris · 12-14-2005, 09:49 AM

Is it true that a new domain wont even get looked at by google for like a year?

or can I get around that by getting good hard link trades?

JD · 12-14-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Is it true that a new domain wont even get looked at by google for like a year?

or can I get around that by getting good hard link trades?

bullshit. The sandbox only affects you if you go crazy with trades. I've got LOADS of top 10s and no sandboxing here

newbreed · 12-14-2005, 09:57 AM

You should google that question.

JD · 12-14-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

You should google that question.

Chris · 12-14-2005, 09:59 AM

thnx for the input ;)

Just finding out the glory of rss lol

lilspup · 12-14-2005, 10:23 AM

1. Find 3+ year old domain that Google crawls (that?s not in the sandbox)
2. Create subdomain on it (widget.ageddomain.com)
3. Copy entire ?newsite that?s in sandbox? to the subdomain
4. Modify dates on these files to just a few months after the old domain was first registered (make site appear older)
5. Get the subdomain indexed (summon googlebot with an inbound link to widget.ageddomain.com)
6. After the subdomain is indexed, 301 redirect it to the newsite that you want out of the sandbox.

Read that the other day on a few SEO blogs.

JD · 12-14-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lilspup

1. Find 3+ year old domain that Google crawls (that?s not in the sandbox)
2. Create subdomain on it (widget.ageddomain.com)
3. Copy entire ?newsite that?s in sandbox? to the subdomain
4. Modify dates on these files to just a few months after the old domain was first registered (make site appear older)
5. Get the subdomain indexed (summon googlebot with an inbound link to widget.ageddomain.com)
6. After the subdomain is indexed, 301 redirect it to the newsite that you want out of the sandbox.

Read that the other day on a few SEO blogs.

heh. thats pretty nifty

Chio The Pirate · 12-14-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Is it true that a new domain wont even get looked at by google for like a year?

or can I get around that by getting good hard link trades?

YARGH! Generate sitemap every time site is updated. Sandbox may be real, but it's never affected me. Most of my new autoblogger pro site demos get index within a week or so with no linking at all.

mortenb · 12-14-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate

YARGH! Generate sitemap every time site is updated. Sandbox may be real, but it's never affected me. Most of my new autoblogger pro site demos get index within a week or so with no linking at all.

Yep.. sitemaps are great.. :-)

Thrawn$ · 12-14-2005, 10:45 AM

register your domain for couples years

sfera · 12-14-2005, 10:45 AM

so fukin complicated. just let google crawl it

lilspup · 12-14-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrawn$

register your domain for couples years

Thats another good one. Register a new domain for like 5 years or so then Google knows you are "serious". Also, yes sitemaps are awesome

NoWhErE · 12-14-2005, 11:50 AM

For the SE clueless... what do you guys mean by sandbox?

gornyhuy · 12-14-2005, 11:53 AM

Its where you should go play, n00b.

;)

baddog · 12-14-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate

YARGH! Generate sitemap every time site is updated. Sandbox may be real, but it's never affected me. Most of my new autoblogger pro site demos get index within a week or so with no linking at all.

Getting indexed is the easy part. Getting good SERPs is something else.

baddog · 12-14-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

For the SE clueless... what do you guys mean by sandbox?

you can Google that

Kevsh · 12-14-2005, 12:00 PM

The sandbox is the theory that new sites (as in, new domains) are withheld from Google rankings for a period of time to avoid spamming techniques. For example, an SEO registers a whole bunch of domains, builds cookie-cutter sites and then goes crazy getting inbound links to get top positions. The sandbox is designed to avoid that, basically.

PrivateEye · 12-14-2005, 12:04 PM

I never had any problems with google sandbox ;-)

msmar · 12-14-2005, 12:07 PM

Yeah, sandbox has nothing to do with indexing. New domains go to sandbox for competitive keywords for some time (usually a bit under year.).
There is no sandbox for uncompetitive keywords.

EviLSuperstaR · 12-14-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

You should google that question.

Nice one

poisson · 12-14-2005, 12:19 PM

Interresting thread. Thanks for the tips.

96ukssob · 12-14-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Is it true that a new domain wont even get looked at by google for like a year?

or can I get around that by getting good hard link trades?

no, you can get easily "looked at" no problem.

however, if you plan to seo for competitive terms, domain reg length is a key player.

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12-14-2005, 10:23 AM	#6
lilspup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 716	1. Find 3+ year old domain that Google crawls (that?s not in the sandbox) 2. Create subdomain on it (widget.ageddomain.com) 3. Copy entire ?newsite that?s in sandbox? to the subdomain 4. Modify dates on these files to just a few months after the old domain was first registered (make site appear older) 5. Get the subdomain indexed (summon googlebot with an inbound link to widget.ageddomain.com) 6. After the subdomain is indexed, 301 redirect it to the newsite that you want out of the sandbox. Read that the other day on a few SEO blogs.

12-14-2005, 10:45 AM	#11
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	so fukin complicated. just let google crawl it

12-14-2005, 11:53 AM	#14
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Its where you should go play, n00b. ;) __________________ icq:159548293

12-14-2005, 12:00 PM	#17
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	The sandbox is the theory that new sites (as in, new domains) are withheld from Google rankings for a period of time to avoid spamming techniques. For example, an SEO registers a whole bunch of domains, builds cookie-cutter sites and then goes crazy getting inbound links to get top positions. The sandbox is designed to avoid that, basically.

12-14-2005, 12:04 PM	#18
PrivateEye Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dirty South Posts: 1,784	I never had any problems with google sandbox ;-) __________________ Arkansas Escort Ads

12-14-2005, 12:07 PM	#19
msmar Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	Yeah, sandbox has nothing to do with indexing. New domains go to sandbox for competitive keywords for some time (usually a bit under year.). There is no sandbox for uncompetitive keywords.

12-14-2005, 12:19 PM	#21
poisson Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sea Posts: 6,474	Interresting thread. Thanks for the tips. __________________