Anyone very familiar with the tookie williams actual case? - GoFuckYourself.com

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 12:43 AM

I dont believe in the death penalty personally so I think you know where I stand on if he should be put to death.

But he claims to be innocent.

I only want to hear from people who have really spent some time looking at this case...

Is there ANY basis for this potential? I've heard no physical evidence and its based off of 2 people's testimony's.

Any light you could shed would be cool . thnx

bringer · 12-13-2005, 12:45 AM

http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams.pdf

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams.pdf

heh...i'm working at same time...was hoping for the cliff notes

StickyGreen · 12-13-2005, 12:46 AM

even if he didn't kill those 4 people just think about how much shit he caused by leading or even being involved with the crips. i could care less if he dies or not, as long as he is off the streets...but why waste space and food for his bitch ass? he got to chill for 20+ years after being sentenced to death i think that was good enough...

Doctor Dre · 12-13-2005, 12:48 AM

If somebody was to kill me tomorrow and I could live a bit longer if I appelaed it, I most likely would

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

even if he didn't kill those 4 people just think about how much shit he caused by leading or even being involved with the crips. i could care less if he dies or not, as long as he is off the streets...but why waste space and food for his bitch ass? he got to chill for 20+ years after being sentenced to death i think that was good enough...

I can name off about 10,000 more worthless wastes of money in the state of california alone

Splum · 12-13-2005, 12:52 AM

Does it really matter?

sicone · 12-13-2005, 12:52 AM

some thoughts to ponder...

we kill a person to show the people that killing is wrong ( I am for the death penalty btw, when its enforced as a proper and actual punishment)

the death penalty in California is a joke. In this case, even when put to death tonight all it did was prolong his life on the tax payers dollar. Had Tookie been mixed in with the GP, just by being the co-founder of the crips he would have been killed by another imate long ago.

bringer · 12-13-2005, 12:53 AM

he claimed he was brain-damaged during the long appeal process and denied writing the children's books. once the appeals were over he proclaimed his innocence and took credit for writing the children's books which got him nominated for the Nobel peace prize. guards at San Quentin say he's been very violent often throwing chemicals at them and attempting escapes. they also reported he still plays a major roll in the crips using his sons, who are in jail now, to carry out his orders. people who are making a stink are either against the death penalty all together or members of the "black man cant get a break" union. from what Ive hear, he's the first black man to be executed in California since they brought it back and 8 of the 12 executed thus far have been white. the race shit is just a ploy to get the mindless under their control.

StickyGreen · 12-13-2005, 12:54 AM

the death penalty is only a joke because it takes like 20 years to execute someone. if you were convicted of murder and sentenced to death the very next day, i bet the murder rate would drop...

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 01:06 AM

cliff notes..

It wasnt an all white jury, there was plenty of evidence, he admitted to shooting , and robbing people, and in a later court trial ( for a prison shanking ) he threatned to kill the jury members in front of the judge

of the 12 people executed in california , ony one has been black

bringer · 12-13-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

cliff notes..

It wasnt an all white jury, there was plenty of evidence, he admitted to shooting , and robbing people, and in a later court trial ( for a prison shanking ) he threatned to kill the jury members in front of the judge

of the 12 people executed in california , ony one has been black

racist

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 01:09 AM

From what i'm hearing, the only witnesses were his co-conspirators.

Backed up by people saying he "bragged"

No physical , no dna

I wouldnt call this open and closed....

but whatever, i'm sure this is just one of MANY murders ...he just happend to get caught for these

But i dont agree with death penalty

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

From what i'm hearing, the only witnesses were his co-conspirators.

Backed up by people saying he "bragged"

No physical , no dna

I wouldnt call this open and closed....

but whatever, i'm sure this is just one of MANY murders ...he just happend to get caught for these

But i dont agree with death penalty

Splum · 12-13-2005, 01:11 AM

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 01:11 AM

they didn't have dna testing back then

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

they didn't have dna testing back then

They can run the DNA tests now. They dont throw away evidence

They do it all the time

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

They can run the DNA tests now. They dont throw away evidence

They do it all the time

actually they did throw it away after his last appeal ,

StickyGreen · 12-13-2005, 01:14 AM

the main point is: he had 25 years to prove his innocence, i think that is enough time...

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 01:15 AM

they keep it now . but back then it didnt always happen

Splum · 12-13-2005, 01:16 AM

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

they keep it now . but back then it didnt always happen

I'm just basing off of newscast so I dont really know

But they are saying that there just wasnt any physical evidence against him , including dna...

not a matter of not collecting it.

Like i said though...i'm sure he killed hundreds of people

I just dont agree with death penalty

PixeLs · 12-13-2005, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum

Just asking--what exactly is your reason for posting this pic?

SmokeyTheBear · 12-13-2005, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

I'm just basing off of newscast so I dont really know

But they are saying that there just wasnt any physical evidence against him , including dna...

not a matter of not collecting it.

Like i said though...i'm sure he killed hundreds of people

I just dont agree with death penalty

i dont agree with it either.. just stating the facts..

by his own words he was a bad bad guy..

some of his last words were " im not here (deathrow) because of what i did , but ALL the things i got away with "

Splum · 12-13-2005, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PixeLs

Just asking--what exactly is your reason for posting this pic?

Its one of Tookies victims. Justice buddy justice.

BlueWire · 12-13-2005, 02:14 AM

Couldnt agree more

But this is America man...so he better of actually killed those people he was accused of.

I could give a shit about Tookie Williams to be honest. Personally I just dont like death penalty...and also I want to see proper justice based on facts...not people's interpretation of what the facts WOULD be if they were all found

reed_4 · 12-13-2005, 02:33 AM

Justice for those who were victims of his crimes.

reynold · 12-13-2005, 02:40 AM

GAll I know is that there were four helpless victims killed that day and he's the convicted suspect. Never had enough chance to follow the case but I am pretty much sure he's guilty and that he deserve such punishment..

Pete-KT · 12-13-2005, 07:11 AM

ya fuck him and he deserved to die

Dirty Dane · 12-13-2005, 07:15 AM

I dont even know who he is

12-13-2005, 12:43 AM	#1
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Anyone very familiar with the tookie williams actual case? I dont believe in the death penalty personally so I think you know where I stand on if he should be put to death. But he claims to be innocent. I only want to hear from people who have really spent some time looking at this case... Is there ANY basis for this potential? I've heard no physical evidence and its based off of 2 people's testimony's. Any light you could shed would be cool . thnx

12-13-2005, 12:45 AM	#2
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams.pdf __________________ 333-765-551

12-13-2005, 12:46 AM	#4
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	even if he didn't kill those 4 people just think about how much shit he caused by leading or even being involved with the crips. i could care less if he dies or not, as long as he is off the streets...but why waste space and food for his bitch ass? he got to chill for 20+ years after being sentenced to death i think that was good enough... __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

12-13-2005, 12:52 AM	#8
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	some thoughts to ponder... we kill a person to show the people that killing is wrong ( I am for the death penalty btw, when its enforced as a proper and actual punishment) the death penalty in California is a joke. In this case, even when put to death tonight all it did was prolong his life on the tax payers dollar. Had Tookie been mixed in with the GP, just by being the co-founder of the crips he would have been killed by another imate long ago. __________________

12-13-2005, 12:53 AM	#9
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	he claimed he was brain-damaged during the long appeal process and denied writing the children's books. once the appeals were over he proclaimed his innocence and took credit for writing the children's books which got him nominated for the Nobel peace prize. guards at San Quentin say he's been very violent often throwing chemicals at them and attempting escapes. they also reported he still plays a major roll in the crips using his sons, who are in jail now, to carry out his orders. people who are making a stink are either against the death penalty all together or members of the "black man cant get a break" union. from what Ive hear, he's the first black man to be executed in California since they brought it back and 8 of the 12 executed thus far have been white. the race shit is just a ploy to get the mindless under their control. __________________ 333-765-551

12-13-2005, 12:52 AM	#7
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Does it really matter?

12-13-2005, 12:54 AM	#10
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	the death penalty is only a joke because it takes like 20 years to execute someone. if you were convicted of murder and sentenced to death the very next day, i bet the murder rate would drop... __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

12-13-2005, 01:06 AM	#11
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	cliff notes.. It wasnt an all white jury, there was plenty of evidence, he admitted to shooting , and robbing people, and in a later court trial ( for a prison shanking ) he threatned to kill the jury members in front of the judge of the 12 people executed in california , ony one has been black __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

12-13-2005, 01:09 AM	#13
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	From what i'm hearing, the only witnesses were his co-conspirators. Backed up by people saying he "bragged" No physical , no dna I wouldnt call this open and closed.... but whatever, i'm sure this is just one of MANY murders ...he just happend to get caught for these But i dont agree with death penalty

12-13-2005, 01:11 AM	#15
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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	they didn't have dna testing back then __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

12-13-2005, 01:14 AM	#19
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	the main point is: he had 25 years to prove his innocence, i think that is enough time... __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

12-13-2005, 01:15 AM	#20
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	they keep it now . but back then it didnt always happen __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

12-13-2005, 01:16 AM	#21
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195

12-13-2005, 02:14 AM	#26
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Couldnt agree more But this is America man...so he better of actually killed those people he was accused of. I could give a shit about Tookie Williams to be honest. Personally I just dont like death penalty...and also I want to see proper justice based on facts...not people's interpretation of what the facts WOULD be if they were all found

12-13-2005, 02:33 AM	#27
reed_4 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,640	Justice for those who were victims of his crimes. __________________

12-13-2005, 02:40 AM	#28
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	GAll I know is that there were four helpless victims killed that day and he's the convicted suspect. Never had enough chance to follow the case but I am pretty much sure he's guilty and that he deserve such punishment..

12-13-2005, 07:11 AM	#29
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	ya fuck him and he deserved to die

12-13-2005, 07:15 AM	#30
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I dont even know who he is