Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' - GoFuckYourself.com

Anthony · 12-12-2005, 09:29 AM

Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

?I don?t give a goddamn,? Bush retorted. ?I?m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.?

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

I?ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ?a goddamned piece of paper.?

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that ?goddamned piece of paper? used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the ?Constitution is an outdated document.?

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn?t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn?t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine ? in the end ? if something is legal or right.

Every federal official ? including the President ? who takes an oath of office swears to ?uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a ?living document.?

?"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have?a 'living document,?? Scalia says. ?We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.?

As a judge, Scalia says, ?I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.?

President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a ?union between a man and woman.? Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.

Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.

?We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,? Scalia warns. ?Don't think that it's a one-way street.?

And don?t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.

But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just ?a goddamned piece of paper.?

© Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue

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It's time for a change.

tony286 · 12-12-2005, 09:32 AM

was this actually surprising to any one lol

who · 12-12-2005, 09:33 AM

U.S.A used to be so great.

cherrylula · 12-12-2005, 09:34 AM

They should nail him to a cross. I hear that does a lot for one's image.

KRL · 12-12-2005, 09:36 AM

Wake up.

The USA has been run by ultra wealthy special interests since its founding.

The government and constitution is just an illusion to make people think they have freedom.

KRL · 12-12-2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

U.S.A used to be so great.

LOL, the only thing that has made us so called "great" at times in our history is we've got less of a fucked up and corrupt government than many other countries. But its still quite fucked up and extremely corrupt.

NickPapageorgio · 12-12-2005, 10:03 AM

I truly would stand and cheer to see him assasina...

,,,nevermind. Who knows who really reads this board, ;)

who · 12-12-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I truly would stand and cheer to see him assasina...

,,,nevermind. Who knows who really reads this board, ;)

The man needs to be punished, not given a ticket to hell. He's already got one.

Screaming · 12-12-2005, 10:08 AM

yeah and how many more years do we have to put up with his god damned ass?

12-12-2005, 10:11 AM

He's a radical...

MrJackMeHoff · 12-12-2005, 10:11 AM

not a real reputable source unfotunately

JD · 12-12-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screaming

yeah and how many more years do we have to put up with his god damned ass?

forever. didn't you hear? he's been made king and is being cloned to live forever.

"United States of Bush"

gornyhuy · 12-12-2005, 10:12 AM

three more years.

gornyhuy · 12-12-2005, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

not a real reputable source unfotunately

yeah, that guy MIGHT just have an agenda. I'm not sure though.

NickPapageorgio · 12-12-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

The man needs to be punished, not given a ticket to hell. He's already got one.

You're right...death would be too simple. He needs to understand the error in his ways. Here's a good one.

Start off by tying him up with rope so his body forms sort of a mid-air "X". Then, blindfold him and put on some classical music. Give him about an hour to sit and think what's going to happen, then come in quietly so he doesn't realize you're standing right there then whisper in his ear "Hey there" and have two people at that second take full swings with baseball bats straight into his shins. They continue to bludgeon his shins until he passes out from the pain. Then be sure you wake him again with amonia capsules so he doesn't miss out on anything...

...shall I continue? I have lots more sick shit stored up. Some contains blowtorches and tourniquettes...some involves knitting needles and barbed wire...

...I could go on for days.

CDSmith · 12-12-2005, 10:15 AM

What publication did that article appear in?

I'm not trying to defend Bush, but the article itself seems to be a might fabricated.

Anthony · 12-12-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

What publication did that article appear in?

I'm not trying to defend Bush, but the article itself seems to be a might fabricated.

Link is on my post.

xclusive · 12-12-2005, 10:18 AM

Doesn't surprise me if it's true the guy is scum

NickPapageorgio · 12-12-2005, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

What publication did that article appear in?

I'm not trying to defend Bush, but the article itself seems to be a might fabricated.

I know you're not trying to defend Bush but you make a very good point even without knowing it.

We live in sad times when a story such as this has to even be questioned to it's truth. Everyone here can imagine Bush actually saying something like that, and that's just pitiful. Even if he didn't actually make those comments, it's sad that anyone would even have to say to themselves, "Gee I wonder if my president really DID say all those things..."

stickyfingerz · 12-12-2005, 10:19 AM

Wow cant believe a single one of you fell for that crap. Im really laughing at your naievity.

uno · 12-12-2005, 10:20 AM

The best satire is often the most plausible CDS.

CDSmith · 12-12-2005, 10:22 AM

By publication I meant newspaper.

I get the feeling this article is made up. For one thing, no reputable paper would print it. Words like "shit" aren't used by newswriters, at least not in any paper I've read.

Yes, many hate Bush and think him an idiot... but wouldn't it be better to prove it without conjecture and fantasy?

MacDaddyPlaya · 12-12-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

By publication I meant newspaper.

I get the feeling this article is made up. For one thing, no reputable paper would print it. Words like "shit" aren't used by newswriters, at least not in any paper I've read.

Yes, many hate Bush and think him an idiot... but wouldn't it be better to prove it without conjecture and fantasy?

FROM THE SITE THAT PUBLISHED THE STORY:
Should we believe what you print simply because you say it is so?

Absolutely not. You should read many publications and draw your own conclusions. We insist that every story published on Blue have at least two independent, verifiable sources for any and all of the information in that story. We have a good track record but, as with any product produced by human beings, we can -- and do -- make mistakes. But when we are wrong, we admit it. Thankfully, we seldom have to.

stickyfingerz · 12-12-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

By publication I meant newspaper.

I get the feeling this article is made up. For one thing, no reputable paper would print it. Words like "shit" aren't used by newswriters, at least not in any paper I've read.

Yes, many hate Bush and think him an idiot... but wouldn't it be better to prove it without conjecture and fantasy?

It is made up this DOUG THOMPSON Guy has done this before. He wrote up fake articles prior to the election too. Shows desperation to say the least.

CDSmith · 12-12-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I know you're not trying to defend Bush but you make a very good point even without knowing it.

We live in sad times when a story such as this has to even be questioned to it's truth. Everyone here can imagine Bush actually saying something like that, and that's just pitiful. Even if he didn't actually make those comments, it's sad that anyone would even have to say to themselves, "Gee I wonder if my president really DID say all those things..."

Point taken.

But it wouldn't be the first time in history someone printed fiction as news and people believed it.

Even the reputable can be libeled.

AmateurFlix · 12-12-2005, 11:10 AM

I sincerely hope this is made up....

SmokeyTheBear · 12-12-2005, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

We live in sad times when a story such as this has to even be questioned to it's truth.

i dont think its ever "sad times" that we should question the validity of things.

Translation · 12-12-2005, 12:48 PM

now that was a real unbiased fair article. put on the tinfoil hats, idiots.

bringer · 12-12-2005, 12:51 PM

i heard bush eats babies

crockett · 12-12-2005, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Wow cant believe a single one of you fell for that crap. Im really laughing at your naievity.

It seems yahoo fell for it too. If it's a fake...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...NlYwN5bmNhdA--

bringer · 12-12-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

It seems yahoo fell for it too. If it's a fake...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...NlYwN5bmNhdA--

and from a bush supporter too!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Kwiatkowski

directfiesta · 12-12-2005, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

It is made up this DOUG THOMPSON Guy has done this before. He wrote up fake articles prior to the election too. Shows desperation to say the least.

Americans do that all the time ... pick up an Iraqi paper ....

NickPapageorgio · 12-12-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think its ever "sad times" that we should question the validity of things.

No you're absolutely correct. But what is sad times, is when the one person, who is supposed to be the symbol of democracy and freedom, and the guy who kids look to and say, "Daddy...could even I be the president someday..." is mentioned in a story like this...and there is even a possibility in anyone's mind that it could be true.

NickPapageorgio · 12-12-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Translation

now that was a real unbiased fair article. put on the tinfoil hats, idiots.

I sale horse blinders and holes in sand for cheap american dollar...

MandyBlake · 12-12-2005, 01:03 PM

not surprising but still scary

smack · 12-12-2005, 01:13 PM

of course it is just "a goddamned piece of paper" to him.

you need to be able to read above a 3rd grade level for it to mean anything.

tristan_D · 12-12-2005, 07:20 PM

how stupid for him to say that, when in fact its the constitution that gives him all those powers that he kept on fucking abusing

12-12-2005, 09:29 AM	#1
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' By DOUG THOMPSON Dec 9, 2005, 07:53 Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act. Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal. GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. ?I don?t give a goddamn,? Bush retorted. ?I?m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.? ?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.? ?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!? I?ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ?a goddamned piece of paper.? And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that ?goddamned piece of paper? used to guarantee. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the ?Constitution is an outdated document.? Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn?t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn?t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine ? in the end ? if something is legal or right. Every federal official ? including the President ? who takes an oath of office swears to ?uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States." Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a ?living document.? ?"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have?a 'living document,?? Scalia says. ?We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.? As a judge, Scalia says, ?I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.? President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a ?union between a man and woman.? Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion. Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights. ?We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,? Scalia warns. ?Don't think that it's a one-way street.? And don?t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States. But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just ?a goddamned piece of paper.? © Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artma...cle_7779.shtml It's time for a change.

12-12-2005, 09:36 AM	#5
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12-12-2005, 10:03 AM	#7
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12-12-2005, 10:08 AM	#9
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12-12-2005, 09:32 AM	#2
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12-12-2005, 09:34 AM	#4
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12-12-2005, 10:11 AM	#10
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12-12-2005, 10:12 AM	#13
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12-12-2005, 10:15 AM	#16
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12-12-2005, 10:19 AM	#20
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12-12-2005, 10:20 AM	#21
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12-12-2005, 10:22 AM	#22
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12-12-2005, 12:48 PM	#28
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12-12-2005, 07:20 PM	#37
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