So many skewed points to destroy, it's impossible to know where to start.

It's like a smorgasboard of idiocy. :xomunch

Doesnt' change the fact that the Monkees were good enough to get a TV show, and the beatles never could.

Monkees 1
Beatles 0

People born around '80 or so have no concept of good music unless they were fortunate enough to have someone really well rounded musically in their lives to expose them to music before sampling, hiphopping and "fixing" it in the mix. It truly was the year that the music died....

The monkees were a comedy act who couldn't even play their own instruments at first.

Beattles 1,000,000
you: idiot.

They were good merchandising. That's it.

They had some catchy tunes..like the I love you ..yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...ect ect etc.

But their music was NOT as outstanding as some would have you believe and John Lennon was not the greatest musician in history or of the 20th century or even the 1960's.

He was by 1980 a washed up ex-rock star that had been holed up in his NYC apartment for 10 years and was mostly outdated and no one really considered his music to be relevant anymore.

Shit, remember in the early 70's when him and his flake of a wife holed up in an Amsertdamn hotel room and had a love in for peace? The guy was a fucking flake, prancing around it is all white suits, hair down to his ass and a Jesus beard.
If he wasn't killed, he'd probably still be doing the same thing now, except hopefully everyone would see him for the nutjob, deadbeat dad and heroin addict that he was.

OVER. HYPED.

That you bought into the whole Beatles thing speaks volumes about your intelligence.

The Beatles didn't need a TV show, every show wanted them, though. In those days doing series TV after movies was generally a step down for the broke and washed/washing out...


The Monkees laid a turd of movie though :upsidedow

Thank goodness we have you and your elitist attitude to set us straight. Do explain to us the relevance of "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da".

Sure its easy, today, to critizise them...and to say what they did was nothing...and yes they're better bands out there today....

The trick is to be the first to do it!...
You say the Beatles are just another boys band?? Thing is, there were no boys band in 1950-60...

Being the 2093433th poprock band today is no big deal...being the first one out there, almost 50 years ago, is something else...wheter you admit it or not, they had a huge influence on music....(and yes I know they were probably other bands BEFORE them and blah blah, but they were the first to really hit it big)

Its like saying Alexander Graham Bell shouldnt get credit for inventing the phone because we have cell phones today...You can't discredit someone for being the first to do something just because there are better things today...

Your school girl crush on them tells me you probably have sex with men.

50 john lennons

(damn i'm getting good at this :1orglaugh)

obladi is great tune.

Show some respect FFS, you dont have to watch the news or listen to the radio, change if you are not satisfied.

Let the people that loved Lennon be

I dont care, its not my music taste, but i can let those that want to put their time on him without a terdball like yourself hanging around..... bashing

Look at who the fans were erly in the Beatles career, particularly when they came to the USA. They were amost exclusivly preteen age girls who SCREAMED as loud as they could.

Brian Epstien most certainly did sculpt them into a boy band, before that the Beatles were playing in nudie clubs in Frankfurt West Germany.

Brian Epstein created the Beatles and all the hype surrounding them. Before the Beatles came to the USA they were a big local hit in the UK, when they got to the US they because a creation of Brian Epstein.
Later on in the late 60's when they broke away from Brian Epstein the Beatles started to fall apart, because they just didn't give a shit about their music anymore.

Afterthe Beatle broke up none of the guys were evr as bigsolo as they had been in the 60's as The Beatles.

The Beatles were 99% and 1% talent.

No more "relevance" than, "My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump,
My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump." :winkwink:

Yeah ok.

Here's a question though. If the almighty John Lennon was so talented, and was such a great musician, how come he couldn't hear that his wife sounded like shit?

Have you ever heared yoko sing? It sounded like a badger getting fucked with a rake. I'm sorry love may be blind, but it aint fucking deaf. There's no reason to put that on an album. None.

John Lennon lost all credibility when he started promoting his wife's singing.

That's funny. I have an attitude. Go back and read all your posts in this thread dude!

Hey you don't like The Beatles or Lennon. That's fine. No disputing taste. But to thrash them and him the way your are tells me that you don't have an appreciation of music history. For example I hate KISS. But, I totally see what they did to shock rock/glam rock. Same with NY DOLLS.

I am not a Dylan fan but the man writes the GREATEST lyrics.

Hard Days Night was a parody of themselves and was funny.

*cough* Dylan *cough* =)

Granted Yoko was shit, but earlier in this thread you where saying the Monkeys were better than the Beatles, you do know the Monkeys were a manufactured boy band like Backstreet Boys, NSYNC and all those Shit boy bands, right??

Most any GFY regular could tell you that I have sex with men :winkwink:

Lennon rocks!

Lennon rocked

Yup, they were a manufactured band, and they were STILL better than the beatles. Sucks, huh?

Ya sure :1orglaugh

The Monkees had 3 #1 hits... The Beatles had how many? Oh yeah, enough to put out an entire CD (27 tracks) called 1 featuring them :upsidedow

I can't think of a single song the Beatles did that I do not like. They are simply one of the best bands ever in my opinion.

Lennon was a great artist.

Popularity doesn't equal talent.

Otherwise Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys would have been considered great musicians.

prolly drinking my milk or having my gerber...

yo bro listen to the lyrics of Imagine for once and hopefully you will come to your senses. And maybe you could ask your parents or grandparents what Lennon and the Beatles meant to their generation. If you can't see the value of that cultural heritage, you're lost.

I hear yeah.. I have a copy of the documentary film " Imagine" :thumbsup .. really nice!

hahahahahaha :thumbsup

Im so opposed to people talkin shit about a musician so close to my family and i ....

In my opinion you suck ;)
John Lennon and the Beatles did a ton for rock and roll. I'm sure you have no idea what achievements they made. What kind of music do you listen to anyways?

The Beatles are the shit. Rubber Soul all the way to Abbey Road are the best albums ever written. Period.

HAHA, you think the Monkeys are better than the Beatles? You are an idiot. hahahaha

Because the generation that now controls the news media considered him to be the voice of their generation. When my generation is in that position Kurt Cobain will get similiar but not as well deserved attention.

The whole Lennon shooting has so much drama to it aside from the fact that he wrote the soundtrack to a generation that it is little wonder if gets remembered.

Head is the single most drug induced movie I have ever seen.

Well first off, why will anyone care 25 yrs after you die? If there are any left I would imagine your friends and family or anyone you made a difference in their life if you have ever even done that... Judging from your post here I assume not though.

Are the Beatles my favorite band no, more of a Mr. Mojo Risin man, but I still like and respect their status in Rock History and there unique sound and songs.

For you to bash a day fans, friends and family remember a legend who was gunned down by a psycho, whether you liked the Beatles or not, makes you an asshole.

But for you to state "Your Opinion" as fact and the only correct one, that everyone else having an opinion opposite yours is wrong makes you a moron too.

For you to say that the Monkees were better than the Beatles simply makes you retarded.

The beatles were never my favorite band by a long shot, and I certainly didn't "buy into the whole hype" thing as you put it.... but I did live through that era and know first-hand just how huge and world-wide their impact was, and still is.

Hey, if 25 years after your death people are still celebrating your life then I will put stock in your opinion on this. Until then you're just another nobody cocking off on a message board about someone who actually had a high-profile productive life that millions still mark after his passing.

If he was alive today I'm sure you're right, he would be having more bed-ins and prancing around for the camera in order to bring the issue of ending the war in Iraq before millions more people.

What have YOU done for mankind lately? :1orglaugh

Were you in your Moms body? Were you alive?

Lennon, like most of us here, was a flawed human being.

And Yoko does/did sound like a badger getting fucked with a rake. :1orglaugh