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DutchTeenCash 12-08-2005 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dopy
Give HSBC a call and they will allow you to talk to one of their offshore advisors.

I have part ownership in a Thai disco/bar where money is pushed out to an offshore HSBC account in Singapore because I do not like the restrictions Thai banks impose. I think the opening amount was $10000.

hsbc doesnt accept adult, maybe under the umbrella of a bar/club but if you state adult revenue porn sites theyll refuse

Rhesus 12-08-2005 10:46 AM

thinkx, judging from your comments across various threads i think you must be one of the dumbest guys around here

DutchTeenCash 12-08-2005 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhesus
thinkx, judging from your comments across various threads i think you must be one of the dumbest guys around here

right Einstein. A few 100 posts and posting 'ok' once a week. Youre a real winner lol.

justsexxx 12-08-2005 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhesus
thinkx, judging from your comments across various threads i think you must be one of the dumbest guys around here

Just curious, what are you doing?

webair 12-08-2005 11:55 AM

talk to [email protected]

Webby 12-08-2005 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sheken
indeed, but how do you make sure that an "online" BVI bank is secure ?

what if they close shop within 2 weeks and take your money with them ?

I need something safe. I may not have 500k to deposit up-start, but I could definetely start with 20k.

I just called Credit Suisse and they told me that for offshore businesses, I need to either bring up 400 000$ and deposit it with them OR provide assets worth 400k US or more.

nice.

guess I can try UBS too but I think I know what they will tell me

Banks don't close shop in a couple of weeks and there are 1000's of em with online banking facilities - how else do their clients have current data? They have "procedures" for this.

For under $100K any bank, within reason, is secure enough for that level. (Tho.. it's good practice to have a number of banks and split larger sums - that even applies to "onshore").

People like Credit Suisse are no longer "the" Credit Suisse, but an amalgamation of First Boston and the old Credit Suisse - a place to avoid :winkwink:

If you are in the EU right now.. it's going to be hard to do this without being armed. Banks want total disclosure, including offshore and a pile of paper and recommendations if possible plus source of funds info blah.

Understand your caution in wanting security, but it seems over the top with the level of funding you are talking about. It's gonna be hard to see many banks running away with $20K - $100K worth! :winkwink:

Suggestion... open four accounts and stuff $5K in each and build on that depending how ya feel about the bank.

teomaxxx 12-11-2005 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
If you are in the EU right now.. it's going to be hard to do this without being armed. Banks want total disclosure, including offshore and a pile of paper and recommendations if possible plus source of funds info blah.
.

its possible. I wouldnt reccommed Latvian banks since they ask from where is your income. I was even kicked from Parex Bank because of this, but it was not problem to withdraw all money and closed that account.
I would reccomed HVB in austria, having there account for about year, and its without problems. However they online user interface is only in german language (but they provide english informations how to deal with it).

Webby 12-11-2005 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx
its possible. I wouldnt reccommed Latvian banks since they ask from where is your income. I was even kicked from Parex Bank because of this, but it was not problem to withdraw all money and closed that account.
I would reccomed HVB in austria, having there account for about year, and its without problems. However they online user interface is only in german language (but they provide english informations how to deal with it).

Thanks for that info teomaxxx! :thumbsup

Not sure what the nature of the problem was... was it "porn"? :winkwink: I just tell banks the truth and not one has shown any interest. Tho noticed the main interest is not really the adult biz, but to comply with their monitoring body and cover stuff like drugs and money laundering etc.

If someone does not really need an "offshore" bank - ie one for an offshore corp - there is normally no need (depending on personal circumstances). In our instance, we genuinely are offshore and nothing to hide or taxes to pay - so any bank is fine.

David - PG 12-11-2005 09:27 AM

Try these guys http://www.postfinance.ch/

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Originally Posted by sheken
On the other hand they do work with Switzerland, and that's why I thought my best bet would be with a Swiss bank!


loxapinedreams 12-11-2005 11:14 AM

hey there
yes there are those canadian banks that have off shore services they are mainly for business purposes meaning foriegn countries to establish some sort of connection
to canada but avoid paying canadian taXES. For canadian citz.. using these banks while a resident of canada ie living in the country.. yes.. your in massive shit like your lawyer kinda hinted.. mainly because they want you to claim the interest and be taxed on it. Now if your a canadian citz and applied for tax free status from rev canada and will out of the country for longer than two years plus a day. then you can use offshore banks with out fear. but if your on a holiday, use a local bank .. leave money there.. go back to canada.. you dont declear the interest.. as its considered world income.. your in shit if they figure you out.

off shore bank options.. isle of man is a tax free haxen
bank of scotland.. is good hi int rates but not tax free.
i used jskye.dk bank a danish bank that service was outstanding min dep 5k usd if i remember righ.

if your in holland ing is a great bank.

just remember off shore banks that are in tax free havens.. low interest and med-large dep requirements..

there alot of new offshore banks popping up.. and i would avoid them and there are little rules regarding insurances for failure to pay. plus there is always the mob issues. ie most banks in cyprus.. are russian mob money related.
most banks will have an offshore branch .. just have to check them out and see what their tos. some will not do services if your in the country of origin.. living in the uk and using a uk offshore bank... no go.

if your looking to hide money from the old lady whom your going to divorce in the next year.. austria. they have the strict bank laws there.. most think switzerland but since the issues of holocoust money and nazi treasure issues.. the government was forced to lift law and the banks now have to report whom have accounts.. In austria that is not the case...

if your looking to just hold money.. bearer bond is the way to go.

bottom line.. if you have a offshore account.. you have to declear the interest..
which kinda defeats of having your money off shore.
if you wish to discuss this further.. hit me up

Marshal 12-11-2005 11:18 AM

http://www.offshore-services.biz/
Try this one, they are doing great... Ask for an explanation first, and mention nettrust as a refferal... ;)

Marshal 12-11-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx
its possible. I wouldnt reccommed Latvian banks since they ask from where is your income. I was even kicked from Parex Bank because of this, but it was not problem to withdraw all money and closed that account.
I would reccomed HVB in austria, having there account for about year, and its without problems. However they online user interface is only in german language (but they provide english informations how to deal with it).

i agree in total! latvian banks along with panamanian are the best banks for this biz... ;)

Webby 12-11-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by loxapinedreams
hey there
yes there are those canadian banks that have off shore services they are mainly for business purposes meaning foriegn countries to establish some sort of connection

Yep.. ScotiaBank is kinda nice!! All over the Caribbean and Latin America! :thumbsup

Webby 12-11-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust
http://www.offshore-services.biz/
Try this one, they are doing great... Ask for an explanation first, and mention nettrust as a refferal... ;)

Bloody hell nettrust! :winkwink: They sure got premium prices for Panama corps! Looks like $1500 each. I got deals of corps (just cos we buy a number for another biz), but even as one-off's I've never paid more than around $700 tops complete with lawyers or justices as nominees.

RayBonga 12-11-2005 11:55 AM

If you're serious about this you should first take your time to plane your move and second hire a specialist (lawyer) to help you with the legal details.

Also you should pick up a copy of the book "The offshore money book"

http://83.149.116.23/preview/941492322.jpg

If your looking to move just small ammounts of money offshore you may consider E-Gold it's not really pratical but very private, they won't ask you for any info and they only freeze accounts by order of american courts (they are located in Nevis).

sickbeatz 12-11-2005 11:57 AM

most swiss banks require a minimum balance of between 250,000$ and 1,000,000$

sfera 12-11-2005 12:06 PM

i wouldnt trust offshore banks unless you know some high governtment official that will skin anyone that fucks with your money

Webby 12-11-2005 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sfera
i wouldnt trust offshore banks unless you know some high governtment official that will skin anyone that fucks with your money

Hell.. they are no different to "onshore" banks sfera. In fact, there are probably more screwups with onshore banks than anything else.

A classic case was Bank of America who decided to launder money and turn a blind eye. The "little" amount of money was $750 mill and this was then split and directed on to a number of banks worldwide - including offshore banks and caused these banks no end of grief because their financial regulatory authories picked up the scam.

Most offshore jurisdictions have tight controls on their banks - they can't afford screwups.

polish_aristocrat 06-24-2006 04:05 PM

hmmmmmm


good thread but no bank recommendations ;)

Webby 06-24-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
hmmmmmm


good thread but no bank recommendations ;)

Part of the reason PA.. least from my side, is that I'd be *very* reluctant to pass someone over to any bank - either onshore or offshore, unless I know em personally.

Try Googling for "offshore banking" .. tho really depends on many other factors and what jurisdiction you want banking PA. "Daily trading" type accounts can often be opened online (with notorized corp paperwork to follow). Most banks are fine for normal trading, but some others more relevant for "motherloads" of funding - these banks are often not suitable for daily corp trading - more investment - and usually with a requirement to visit the bank personally and present credentials.


RayBonga is 100% correct - first stage is "you" and where you are resident. If you are legitimately resident offshore - there are no problems and plenty banks to choose from.

PS Better add the usual "US citizen" clause... which is the exception to almost all other countries. The whole concept of offshore is decimated for US folks in that there is a requirement to declare and interest annually - even in relatively small corps. Flipside is the IRS gives around $80K allowances for foreign residency. But there is still a requirement for annual filings whether resident within the US or elsewhere.

UtahSaints 06-24-2006 04:33 PM

get account with latvian banks.. most ebay fraudsters bank with those dudes...

chupachups 06-24-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
hmmmmmm


good thread but no bank recommendations ;)

These are good and solid - Singer & Friedlander IOM + Bank of Saint Lucia

Avoid list:

Barrington (and probably many many more - be selective)

czarina 06-24-2006 05:17 PM

not for a company, but for a person, you can open one very easy in mexico.

Jamie 06-24-2006 07:26 PM

I'm looking to setup an offshore company just to be able to process with EU IPSP's.

Any recommendations on where to incorporate and which bank to use?

This is what I've been told so far.
http://www.fletcherkennedy.com
http://www.offshoregibraltar.com to set up a Gibraltar non-resident company
http://www.treppides.com - $2,000 for Cyprus incorporation, $1,500 annual fees including the provision of nominee director, company secretary, and registerred office address.

Webby 06-24-2006 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie
I'm looking to setup an offshore company just to be able to process with EU IPSP's.

Any recommendations on where to incorporate and which bank to use?

This is what I've been told so far.
http://www.fletcherkennedy.com
http://www.offshoregibraltar.com to set up a Gibraltar non-resident company
http://www.treppides.com - $2,000 for Cyprus incorporation, $1,500 annual fees including the provision of nominee director, company secretary, and registerred office address.

You are not asking for much Jamie, so would suggest you just get the simplest of the lot - and this is probably going to be Gibraltar. Fidelity at offshoregibraltar.com are fine for this.

Before proceeding.. noticed you are in the US - it would be worth checking with your accountant and legal guy regarding "offshore" to avoid raising red flags with the IRS.

Alternatively, is there any reason why you can't just get a "non offshore" corp - eg, a UK non-resident company? (Costs less anyways).

Here's some relevant links:

http://www.jordans.co.uk/jordans3.ns...dent+companies

http://www.jordans.co.uk/jordans3.nsf/Main/UK+benefits

Banking can be anywhere you like - with the exception of a Gibraltar corp. A non-resident Gib corp can not have a bank account within Gibraltar.

Only my :2 cents: but since you are prob a US citizen, I'd be inclined to keep everything open and transparent. (Also take some professional advice on this as regards US law).

Choppa 06-24-2006 08:21 PM

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oxford1 06-25-2006 04:25 AM

Al Queda Thread
 
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Originally Posted by BRISK
You can't transfer funds from online processors to a Caribbean bank?

Special Agent 86 (don knotts) is on your ass rag head ....

gooddomains 06-25-2006 04:52 AM

interesting thread

Timon 06-25-2006 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
lol n00b youre clueless, name one English bank allowing adult and offshore.

You're a pretty big moron in my book if you tell your bank you deal in porn when setting up your account so it's not relevant :)

Timon 06-25-2006 05:00 AM

A friend of mine uses this Swiss bank. They take small accounts from foreign individuals/companies:

http://www.swissquote.ch/index_e.html

Timon 06-25-2006 05:03 AM

Stay away from Latvian Banks... several of them have simply closed shop and disapeared with their clients money.

Others will every few years freeze all their accounts and demand all sorts of business and financial documents to unfreeze it, obviously hoping some of their clients can't produce all the required documents.

polish_aristocrat 06-25-2006 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Timon
A friend of mine uses this Swiss bank. They take small accounts from foreign individuals/companies:

http://www.swissquote.ch/index_e.html

interesting, but do they require references?

or ask detailed questions about the source of funds?

and what do you mean by small accounts? ( what $$ range )

chupachups 06-25-2006 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
interesting, but do they require references?

or ask detailed questions about the source of funds?

and what do you mean by small accounts? ( what $$ range )


After 9/11 all banks ask very detailed questions on the source of funds, though you would have nothing to fear unless you say you are a smutpeddler :1orglaugh

polish_aristocrat 06-25-2006 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chupachups
After 9/11 all banks ask very detailed questions on the source of funds,

well sure thing

but for some reason Timon recommended that bank

samsam 06-25-2006 05:28 AM

panama, latvia are more risky (remember what happened to George Jung)

jersey, guernsey, isle of man all have stable offshore governments and if youre in europe, the tax is deducted from your interest and paid to your government anonymously. but if the bank you are depositing into has a branch in your home contry its possible they can force the bank to give up your info. this happened in the usa and in ireland and most recently in uk:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4761851.stm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/...326evasion.htm

http://www.investorsoffshore.com/asp...toryname=23569

if you want privacy then you should look at swiss only as its against the law there for them to disclose your private details to anyone even the government and there are stiff penalties.

Timon 06-25-2006 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
interesting, but do they require references?

or ask detailed questions about the source of funds?

and what do you mean by small accounts? ( what $$ range )

fill out their online application form and they'll let you know ;)


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