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Old 12-05-2005, 06:51 PM   #1
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America is doomed - "outsourcing jobs thread"

i now know that our economy is doomed


i was just called by a telemarketer from bengladesh


america cant even afford to use the ole automated telemarketing machine anymore so now they are paying PHDs in asia to do it for cheaper.


what has this world come too.



i am sad now
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:55 PM   #2
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there are new laws on telemarketing, outsourcing it is actually smart

americans & europeans (as well as australians) are being groomed to become managers for the new world

someone has to organize work for india, china & the likes...& god knows they've shown they can't do it themselves

chin up sunny, chin up
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:56 PM   #3
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I made a phone call to my cell phone provider last week. After waiting quite a long time to get ahold of someone to help me, I couldn't even understand the guy. I finally gave up and told him I would just go to the store here locally.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:00 PM   #4
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:04 PM   #5
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there are new laws on telemarketing, outsourcing it is actually smart

americans & europeans (as well as australians) are being groomed to become managers for the new world

someone has to organize work for india, china & the likes...& god knows they've shown they can't do it themselves

chin up sunny, chin up

its brilliant, with a global economy a few countries will be managers and the rest will be employees, lol. i never thought of it like that before
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:11 PM   #6
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...& god knows they've shown they can't do it themselves
Thats todays truth Pr0!
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:13 PM   #7
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Wow this is funny...

Two days ago I performed a major debate on why offshoring (outsourcing) is actually beneficial to the U.S. (in my MicroEconomics class) and I raped the crap out of the other side. Don't make me do it here....
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:35 PM   #8
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microeconomics... you can't learn the real world from a classroom. sure you can blab your ass off but at the end of the day outsourcing is not good for the average american working as an employee for a moderate to large sized company. which is the majority of americans.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:44 PM   #9
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I don't give a fuck what country someone is in. If they can do the job better and cheaper they get the money.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:08 PM   #10
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I don't give a fuck what country someone is in. If they can do the job better and cheaper they get the money.
I agree. In the end what's important is where you get your money's worth
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:11 PM   #11
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:14 PM   #12
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Maybe for line jobs? but the others are secure!
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:27 PM   #13
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dont be sad, peope get the wrong idea about otusourcing..


You cant even sell cheap foreign made shit if nobody has a job..

Outsourcing just basically means , everyone who used to do those jobs will now move onto less menial , less work , higher paying jobs..
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:29 PM   #14
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I agree. In the end what's important is where you get your money's worth
100% agree!
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:36 PM   #15
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dont be sad, peope get the wrong idea about otusourcing..


You cant even sell cheap foreign made shit if nobody has a job..

Outsourcing just basically means , everyone who used to do those jobs will now move onto less menial , less work , higher paying jobs..
Could not agree more, we see a trend with people that hire from the western countries and from the bigger companies, they keep their existing employees which are used for managing the outsourced employees so that more product/services can be delivered.
They are adding to their business, not downsizing to save money with outsourcing, but using it to take a competitive advantage.

Where as the smaller companies tend to add one outsourced employee one at time, it can give these companies a chance to move forward faster by using outsourcing as a tool to do this.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:41 PM   #16
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As long as we can thin out the American population by 25 - 50 million people, outsourcing will be great. The down side is that if we don't, it's going to cause a revolution in the next 10 years when the combination of the new bankruptcy laws keep people from being able to Chapter 7 their way out of their upside down houses. Unemployed, lazy, fat, spoiled people who's jobs were shipped overseas because they'll do it cheaper and work harder don't tend to take it well when they can't feed their unemployed, lazy, fat,spoiled kids.

It'll take a major world war or a pandemic, but 10% to 20% of the population has to go, one way or the other. We're breeding ourselves into pandemonium.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:13 PM   #17
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Wow this is funny...

Two days ago I performed a major debate on why offshoring (outsourcing) is actually beneficial to the U.S. (in my MicroEconomics class) and I raped the crap out of the other side. Don't make me do it here....
Are you a master debater?
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:58 AM   #18
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Outsourcing just basically means , everyone who used to do those jobs will now move onto less menial , less work , higher paying jobs..
ideally. now this example isn't oursourcing directly but a result of NAFTA. i used to live in a small rural area where most of the jobs were either agricultural or industrial. now about 10 years ago lots of factories shut down and moved to mexico or china to produce things cheaper. these people did not get better jobs. maybe some did, if they moved but if they stayed there was simply nothing left after 3 of the major factories left. most ended up on welfare, some took minimum wage jobs like security guard or cashier. what about those people? people who worked for a place for 20 years and get the boot? do you really think they can be re-educated for a better job?
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:00 AM   #19
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i now know that our economy is doomed


i was just called by a telemarketer from bengladesh


america cant even afford to use the ole automated telemarketing machine anymore so now they are paying PHDs in asia to do it for cheaper.


what has this world come too.



i am sad now
Time to move to a 3rd world country and set up shop !

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Old 12-07-2005, 07:15 AM   #20
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send as much work as possible overseas.
eventually the buck a day drones will figure it all out for themselves and start their own biz, faster, cheaper and better.
then their will be no use for you.
and that is a good thing.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:28 AM   #21
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i think its a big mistake

outsourcing is a bad move for a company

companies need to keep up with greedy competition which drives these moves
in the workforce market.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:33 AM   #22
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outsourcing is a bad move for a company

companies need to keep up with greedy competition which drives these moves
in the workforce market.
Is it just me, or do those two statements contradict each other?
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:37 AM   #23
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they have always used people from other countries to help them grow faster...but now people in US will start loosing their jobs to people outside US....soon US will be jobless...heheheh
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:43 AM   #24
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imao, this is a good thing for asian countries like mine, the economy will rise due to 24 hour service. US is doing this for a reason, a good and beneficiary one.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:49 AM   #25
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I don't give a fuck what country someone is in. If they can do the job better and cheaper they get the money.
I agree with you, BUT, if the person on the other end of the phone can't speak clear English, than they're NOT doing the job better.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:19 AM   #26
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Is it just me, or do those two statements contradict each other?

you are right saying they can contrdict.
a company looses more than cash when they outsource, letting their info and knowledge spread out without control.

on the other hand they say they need to stay competitive or die.

so its a catch 22 situation.

i say not,

you need balls to pay more and raise your game in other fields.
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Wrong, you outsource to earn things and the profit of the outsource thing comes back to you. IN the end the guy that outsources things 'owns' the company to which things are outsourced since he pays the money. So it is a smart move.

The alternative would be to let them develop alone and then they will be competition not 'slaves'.

Do the math...

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sure you can blab your ass off but at the end of the day outsourcing is not good for the average american working as an employee for a moderate to large sized company. which is the majority of americans.
The majority of Americans work as employees for a moderate to large sized companies?

That funny, because more than 50 percent of the workforce is employed by small businesses, which provide for more than half of the GDP. Small businesses are also the principal source of new jobs in the US economy.

Carry on though.
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microeconomics... you can't learn the real world from a classroom. sure you can blab your ass off but at the end of the day outsourcing is not good for the average american working as an employee for a moderate to large sized company. which is the majority of americans.
I didn't study this, but as an observer of the real world I conclude this:

Outsourcing = Competition
And competition is a key to the global marketplace

The ones that whine are the lazy Americans who are afraid of losing their jobs to more educated, respectful and hard-working people. Oh, and who work for much lower wages.

In the long run, this will make Americans overall smarten up and improve their own workforce.
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