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Marshal · 12-17-2005, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uvort

Check it out www.live.com

Pretty fucking quick search engine. Much faster then google.

I think it's pretty cool.

I've read uvort's old post about AJAX,
Microsofts response to Google.

I wanted to see results of my site. I was looking for 'latina ass' and look what I saw:

My site is on the first position!!!

I'm too excited, so flame me now... :D

Aside with jokes, I don't want to say that I know too much about SEO (hehe!) and would really like to be helpful to all of you...

Feel free to contact me on ICQ for any help about this...

pussyluver · 12-17-2005, 09:46 PM

Faster than google - smaller databas and hits too. So big fuckin deal.

Been watching my SERPS for awhile on live.com and they bounce all over the place. So it is a work in progress yet.

Hardlinks · 12-17-2005, 09:48 PM

Live is nothing without humans searching.

ry0t · 12-17-2005, 09:53 PM

When you type "web host" gotwebhost.com is the second webhost. Good job.

nofx · 12-17-2005, 09:57 PM

cool

killpolice.com is #1st for 'kill police' on both sites

Marshal · 12-17-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

Faster than google - smaller databas and hits too. So big fuckin deal.

Been watching my SERPS for awhile on live.com and they bounce all over the place. So it is a work in progress yet.

do you say that msn.com database is small one (live.com is using this one)?! i would not agree... though it's smaller than google's, it is the third search engine database according to the amount of spidered links... i still appreciate google's traffic, but google is covering only around 53% of the US search engine traffic. MSN has big piece of the cake for the other 44%... There are also Yahoo, Altavista, etc, too...

2HousePlague · 12-17-2005, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettrust

I've read uvort's old post about AJAX,
Microsofts response to Google.

I wanted to see results of my site. I was looking for 'latina ass' and look what I saw:

My site is on the first position!!!

I'm too excited, so flame me now... :D

Aside with jokes, I don't want to say that I know too much about SEO (hehe!) and would really like to be helpful to all of you...

Feel free to contact me on ICQ for any help about this...

Very funny -- see now THIS I appreciate. The man has a sense of humor and he's workin' the crowd --

2hp

Marshal · 12-17-2005, 10:17 PM

i agree with you pussyluver, but only in one part of it...

Marshal · 12-17-2005, 10:18 PM

ok, let this thread die... do not post anymore here... i wanted only to share my excitement with you... i would definitely change this place for some other...

pocketkangaroo · 12-17-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettrust

but google is covering only around 53% of the US search engine traffic. MSN has big piece of the cake for the other 44%... There are also Yahoo, Altavista, etc, too...

MSN has a big piece of the 44%? Not quite.

Google - 56.9%
Yahoo - 21.2%
MSN Search - 8.9%
AOL Search - 3.2%

If 8.9% is a big piece of the rest, my statistics minor was not worth it.

Not to knock your ranking, but it's MSN. The term is decent, but still, MSN. I just couldn't imagine selling search engine optimization services and bragging about it for some rankings for a search engine that is well behind the big 2.

Marshal · 12-17-2005, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

MSN has a big piece of the 44%? Not quite.

Google - 56.9%
Yahoo - 21.2%
MSN Search - 8.9%
AOL Search - 3.2%

If 8.9% is a big piece of the rest, my statistics minor was not worth it.

Not to knock your ranking, but it's MSN. The term is decent, but still, MSN. I just couldn't imagine selling search engine optimization services and bragging about it for some rankings for a search engine that is well behind the big 2.

I don't doubt this results, but which source did you use?

I already have decent results on Yahoo and on Google, but that's less important here. I was pointing that live.com would take bigger share comparing to this position. And where is Altavista? Is it under Yahoo? I'm only being curious...

All I wanted is to point that nearly 10% of MSN's share is not useless. I agree that Google is major SE, but: Why do you use MS Microsoft? Why are you buying Office? Do not consider MS stupid! Who's the reachest man on the planet?!

I'm not Microsoft's fan, but with the use of AJAX (do not remind new Vista!), MS would hit at least %25 of the market, I have no doubts about that.

MSN (live.com) + Yahoo would hit around 1/2 of the market soon, I'm totally positive!

Marshal · 12-17-2005, 11:52 PM

btw, what do you think of AJAX? as far as i know google was the first that used it in public on gmail... (i might be wrong???)

pussyluver · 12-17-2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettrust

do you say that msn.com database is small one (live.com is using this one)?! i would not agree... though it's smaller than google's, it is the third search engine database according to the amount of spidered links... i still appreciate google's traffic, but google is covering only around 53% of the US search engine traffic. MSN has big piece of the cake for the other 44%... There are also Yahoo, Altavista, etc, too...

OK, at least they have fewer hits. I'm not sure about the msn database = live.com database. Will take your word for it.

That would take a few bucks to equal the all of all of googles servers & bandwidth. I doubt MS is there yet.

I have more SERPS on google than yahoo or any other SE. Love 'em or hate 'em, they make or break me.

Marshal · 12-18-2005, 12:15 AM

SE traffic is the best traffic ever... lower CTR, better sales, less bandwidth... what could make you ask for more? :D

Marshal · 12-18-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettrust

btw, what do you think of AJAX? as far as i know google was the first that used it in public on gmail... (i might be wrong???)

this was my question... any answer?

pocketkangaroo · 12-18-2005, 01:19 AM

My source was:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/?p=9043

Altavista is such small volume it apparently wasn't worth mentioning. They fall well below other engines like Ask. Under 1% for sure. They use Yahoo! results also so I'd just consider that part of Yahoo!.

Those statistics don't take into account what other small engines power their search by either. Remember that AOL uses Google results, so ranking high on Google also gets those benefits. Yahoo! also syndicates results to other engines like AltaVista, AlltheWeb, and more. Comcast, Firefox, and more use Google. I don't know of a single engine using MSN results.

Again, I'm not trying to knock your results, but high rankings on Google and Yahoo! make MSN search volume almost laughable.

Manowar · 12-18-2005, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ry0t

When you type "web host" gotwebhost.com is the second webhost. Good job.

damn, nice

Marshal · 12-18-2005, 09:27 PM

hehe, nice...

sfera · 12-18-2005, 09:31 PM

looks great i think it has potential

CamRabbit · 12-18-2005, 09:33 PM

live.com is showing MSN result.

big fucking deal.

Marshal · 12-19-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

My source was:

Those statistics don't take into account what other small engines power their search by either. Remember that AOL uses Google results, so ranking high on Google also gets those benefits. Yahoo! also syndicates results to other engines like AltaVista, AlltheWeb, and more. Comcast, Firefox, and more use Google. I don't know of a single engine using MSN results.

Again, I'm not trying to knock your results, but high rankings on Google and Yahoo! make MSN search volume almost laughable.

Live is using MSN results. Try www.PileDog.com too... Good one...

I could and I couldn't agree with youl. Though MSN volume is small, MSN accompanied with Yahoo is making more than %33 of the market. Compare the speed of optimizing for Google and for Yahoo. Yahoo likes new content, and Google likes a lot of inbound links (this means: the older site, the better).

So, new players targeting keywords with competition, don't have much chance comparing with the big fishes...

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Marshal Biz Dev and SEO Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15,181	btw, what do you think of AJAX? as far as i know google was the first that used it in public on gmail... (i might be wrong???) __________________ --- Busy ranking websites on Google...

12-17-2005, 09:46 PM	#2
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Faster than google - smaller databas and hits too. So big fuckin deal. Been watching my SERPS for awhile on live.com and they bounce all over the place. So it is a work in progress yet.

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ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	When you type "web host" gotwebhost.com is the second webhost. Good job.

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Marshal Biz Dev and SEO Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15,181	SE traffic is the best traffic ever... lower CTR, better sales, less bandwidth... what could make you ask for more? :D __________________ --- Busy ranking websites on Google...

12-18-2005, 01:19 AM	#16
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	My source was: http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/?p=9043 Altavista is such small volume it apparently wasn't worth mentioning. They fall well below other engines like Ask. Under 1% for sure. They use Yahoo! results also so I'd just consider that part of Yahoo!. Those statistics don't take into account what other small engines power their search by either. Remember that AOL uses Google results, so ranking high on Google also gets those benefits. Yahoo! also syndicates results to other engines like AltaVista, AlltheWeb, and more. Comcast, Firefox, and more use Google. I don't know of a single engine using MSN results. Again, I'm not trying to knock your results, but high rankings on Google and Yahoo! make MSN search volume almost laughable.

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