Why nobody is using MoneyTree?! - GoFuckYourself.com

stfuvt · 03-27-2002, 08:04 AM

why nobody is using MoneyTree I have never seen their banners on other sites except mines?
so what I am wondering is is there something that I don`t know about them ?

Altima · 03-27-2002, 08:31 AM

they have crapy blind link banners and there sites suck

zubr · 03-27-2002, 08:45 AM

there are actually used by many beginners, but they are not the best and thats why you dont see 'em often

boneprone · 03-27-2002, 01:09 PM

scratch scratch

4Pics · 03-27-2002, 01:21 PM

never tried them and didn't plan to try them

Dawgy · 03-27-2002, 01:22 PM

last time i tried them they had those fucking talking banners and got me banned on a lot of sites. took me weeks to get that mess fixed. thats why i dont use em.

Wiredoctor · 03-27-2002, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
last time i tried them they had those fucking talking banners and got me banned on a lot of sites. took me weeks to get that mess fixed. thats why i dont use em.

Exactly, they are very dubious in their tactics...Keep away.

lizzerd · 03-27-2002, 02:14 PM

Hey there all - Liz with MoneyTree here.

It appears we're comparing completely different programs here. MoneyTree is a lot of different programs all in one. Each post has commented on different programs. We offer per join, per impression and the dialer. Yes, the per impression banner is audio - but it is a per impression program, what do you expect in that situation? You are not forced to use the per impression program, it's your choice. You are being paid to display a banner - if it doesn't work for you, I would suggest trying the dialer or any of the other programs.

Now, the dialer, we have all sorts of options for you to decide where you want to send your traffic. We offer ways to filter your US traffic to the URL of your choice and your international traffic to the dialer - or you can send all your traffic to the dialer. Our system is designed in such a way that if you would like to, you can build and host your own dialer sales pages. If you would like to send specific traffic to a specific location - talk to us, it's possible we have the right solution for you. Our dialer rates are impressive as well - 8.50 per US call and .85cents/min for UK -

Also, to respond to the "stealing" accusation - We do not steal traffic. We do redirect some traffic based on its conversion potential - BUT, when we do these redirects we MAKE SURE that wherever your traffic is going, you get credit for it - and this function can be switched off if you prefer. If you have any questions about it - ask me and I'll tell you about it.

We all know that different sponsors work better for different webmasters - there is a total possibility MoneyTree may not be the program for you - but that does not mean it is a bad or "dubious" program. We are totally open to discuss our program, our system with any of you - I've personally spoken to a few of you and would be happy to discuss this further - I can be reached at [email protected] or ICQ at 81619446

-Liz

Gary · 03-27-2002, 02:24 PM

I tried them along time ago, couldnt get a sale if my life depended on it. But im sure some people have success with them.

brocklanders · 03-27-2002, 03:16 PM

Money doesn't grow on trees.

brutus · 03-27-2002, 03:16 PM

MoneyTree dialer works quite well for me = generates $$$.

What you're doing with your non-us traffic??? Let em waste their money on your pockets

MoneyTree is perfect target for foreing traffic - at least for me.

Mr.Fiction · 03-27-2002, 03:38 PM

We've used Money Tree for years and they have treated us very well.

I know that some people have problems with Sex Tracker, but our experience with the Flying Croc family, and specifically Money Tree, has been great. In fact, they have gone out of their way to make sure we are happy.

As Liz said, you can turn on and off the dialer stuff, and the annoying audio ads are optional.

Money Tree rocks and Liz is good people!

ez12 · 03-27-2002, 03:54 PM

let me explain this ....... uhhhhhhh well it's because ..... :

THEY SUCK BIGTIME

B.Diker · 03-27-2002, 04:22 PM

easypic.com is using them , at least they can earn money with them

boneprone · 03-27-2002, 05:23 PM

Pretty sure
its a paid ad spot.
Easy pic isnt using them, they are using him.

chrism · 03-29-2002, 10:40 AM

I tried them for a while but they didn't convert (that's what it said on the stats screen anyway!). All the re-directs annoyed me too.

DarkJedi · 03-29-2002, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ez12
let me explain this ....... uhhhhhhh well it's because ..... :

THEY SUCK BIGTIME

Fact

Wiredoctor · 03-29-2002, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
its a paid ad spot.
Easy pic isnt using them, they are using him.

Exactly.....

LoveAsianChicks · 03-29-2002, 11:26 AM

The impression program ad should not talk. That is just bullshit because no one wants to hear that fucking message.

The terms state you need to maintain a 1.5% CTR or something.
I wouldn't mind using the program if it didn't talk and forcing a CTR would ensure the webmaster puts it in a decent spot to meet the CTR... but I've never seen a single website using the stupid thing.

You should really drop the stupid sound or drop the required CTR. That program could have been great....but currently it sucks.

lizzerd · 03-29-2002, 02:36 PM

LoveAsianChicks -

As mentioned in my last post - you are not forced to use the per impression program - we have others. It's your choice, if you don't approve, don't use it.

Now, as for the CTR issue -

We do not have a minimum Conversion Ratio on any of our programs. We do have the minimum Click Through Ratio on the CPM program only. If you maintained the 1.5% Click Through Rate, it wouldn't matter how many conversions those clicks generated.

The text you're concerned about is just a clause to protect us if someone is really using up our bandwidth without being productive. We've never yet switched an account over, and we would never terminate an account over a Click Through or Conversion Rate.

For us to change or cancel an account, the webmaster pretty much has to be cheating us, or be sucking down our bandwidth enough that it causes a disturbance with our program. As far as I know, the bandwidth problem has never come up.

If you have any other questions, contact me directly at [email protected] or ICQ at 81619446

-Liz

03-27-2002, 08:04 AM	#1
stfuvt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: my website Posts: 856	Why nobody is using MoneyTree?! why nobody is using MoneyTree I have never seen their banners on other sites except mines? so what I am wondering is is there something that I don`t know about them ? __________________ my ICQ 129-839-858 I am selling these sites cheap!!! CELEBRITY SITES THAT CONVERT AND RETAIN!!!

03-27-2002, 08:45 AM	#3
zubr Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,227	there are actually used by many beginners, but they are not the best and thats why you dont see 'em often __________________ Alex - ICQ:61889253 - MSN:zubr_zubr at hotmail.com - Skype:zubrzubr

03-27-2002, 01:09 PM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	scratch scratch __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 03-30-2002 at 02:05 AM..

03-27-2002, 01:22 PM	#6
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	last time i tried them they had those fucking talking banners and got me banned on a lot of sites. took me weeks to get that mess fixed. thats why i dont use em. __________________ the revolution is coming.

03-27-2002, 02:24 PM	#9
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	I tried them along time ago, couldnt get a sale if my life depended on it. But im sure some people have success with them. __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

03-27-2002, 08:31 AM	#2
Altima Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 221	they have crapy blind link banners and there sites suck

03-27-2002, 01:21 PM	#5
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	never tried them and didn't plan to try them

03-27-2002, 02:14 PM	#8
lizzerd Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 110	Hey there all - Liz with MoneyTree here. It appears we're comparing completely different programs here. MoneyTree is a lot of different programs all in one. Each post has commented on different programs. We offer per join, per impression and the dialer. Yes, the per impression banner is audio - but it is a per impression program, what do you expect in that situation? You are not forced to use the per impression program, it's your choice. You are being paid to display a banner - if it doesn't work for you, I would suggest trying the dialer or any of the other programs. Now, the dialer, we have all sorts of options for you to decide where you want to send your traffic. We offer ways to filter your US traffic to the URL of your choice and your international traffic to the dialer - or you can send all your traffic to the dialer. Our system is designed in such a way that if you would like to, you can build and host your own dialer sales pages. If you would like to send specific traffic to a specific location - talk to us, it's possible we have the right solution for you. Our dialer rates are impressive as well - 8.50 per US call and .85cents/min for UK - Also, to respond to the "stealing" accusation - We do not steal traffic. We do redirect some traffic based on its conversion potential - BUT, when we do these redirects we MAKE SURE that wherever your traffic is going, you get credit for it - and this function can be switched off if you prefer. If you have any questions about it - ask me and I'll tell you about it. We all know that different sponsors work better for different webmasters - there is a total possibility MoneyTree may not be the program for you - but that does not mean it is a bad or "dubious" program. We are totally open to discuss our program, our system with any of you - I've personally spoken to a few of you and would be happy to discuss this further - I can be reached at [email protected] or ICQ at 81619446 -Liz

03-27-2002, 03:16 PM	#10
brocklanders Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 297	Money doesn't grow on trees.

03-27-2002, 03:16 PM	#11
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	MoneyTree dialer works quite well for me = generates $$$. What you're doing with your non-us traffic??? Let em waste their money on your pockets MoneyTree is perfect target for foreing traffic - at least for me.

03-27-2002, 03:38 PM	#12
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	We've used Money Tree for years and they have treated us very well. I know that some people have problems with Sex Tracker, but our experience with the Flying Croc family, and specifically Money Tree, has been great. In fact, they have gone out of their way to make sure we are happy. As Liz said, you can turn on and off the dialer stuff, and the annoying audio ads are optional. Money Tree rocks and Liz is good people!

03-27-2002, 03:54 PM	#13
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	let me explain this ....... uhhhhhhh well it's because ..... : THEY SUCK BIGTIME __________________ Main sites: Duclerck.com & Diderote.com My Hosting: AmeriNOC My Sponsors: NewNudeCash, Silvercash, Sapphic Cash, BCash4you Email: webmaster @ duclerck.com

03-27-2002, 04:22 PM	#14
B.Diker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,286	easypic.com is using them , at least they can earn money with them

03-27-2002, 05:23 PM	#15
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Pretty sure its a paid ad spot. Easy pic isnt using them, they are using him. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 03-30-2002 at 02:06 AM..

03-29-2002, 10:40 AM	#16
chrism Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 256	I tried them for a while but they didn't convert (that's what it said on the stats screen anyway!). All the re-directs annoyed me too.

03-29-2002, 11:26 AM	#19
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	The impression program ad should not talk. That is just bullshit because no one wants to hear that fucking message. The terms state you need to maintain a 1.5% CTR or something. I wouldn't mind using the program if it didn't talk and forcing a CTR would ensure the webmaster puts it in a decent spot to meet the CTR... but I've never seen a single website using the stupid thing. You should really drop the stupid sound or drop the required CTR. That program could have been great....but currently it sucks. Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 03-29-2002 at 11:28 AM..

03-29-2002, 02:36 PM	#20
lizzerd Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 110	LoveAsianChicks - As mentioned in my last post - you are not forced to use the per impression program - we have others. It's your choice, if you don't approve, don't use it. Now, as for the CTR issue - We do not have a minimum Conversion Ratio on any of our programs. We do have the minimum Click Through Ratio on the CPM program only. If you maintained the 1.5% Click Through Rate, it wouldn't matter how many conversions those clicks generated. The text you're concerned about is just a clause to protect us if someone is really using up our bandwidth without being productive. We've never yet switched an account over, and we would never terminate an account over a Click Through or Conversion Rate. For us to change or cancel an account, the webmaster pretty much has to be cheating us, or be sucking down our bandwidth enough that it causes a disturbance with our program. As far as I know, the bandwidth problem has never come up. If you have any other questions, contact me directly at [email protected] or ICQ at 81619446 -Liz