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Old 12-04-2005, 04:38 PM   #1
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Rip Off NYC Porn Site: check this shit out

I've been hearing about these guy's for years here in NYC
They offer girls twice as much to shoot and then pay them with a bad check. These guy's have the balls to even put
up a site. Check out these links for the info

http://www.********.com/read.aspx?ID=10824

http://www.xxxporntalk.com//ubbthrea...b=5&o=&fpart=1
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:47 PM   #2
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Why would they take a check in the first place?

"If" they MUST take a check, they should have the producers drive them to their bank BEFORE the shoot to cash it.

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Old 12-04-2005, 04:49 PM   #3
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talent dont take no checks here in cali
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:55 PM   #4
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one looks like a sex offender, & the other i think sold me a kabob in nyc once

the girls should be smart enough to protect their interests

and in the sex industry you never take a check

what abunch of pukes though.....horrible
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:01 PM   #5
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Real super wise. Passing bed checks is a crime and can be a felony. It also would void any release since the model was not compensated, and to boot the model will have a paper trail prooving it.

Ya would think they are just actively looking for ways to get arrested.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:31 PM   #6
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Yea the one guy does look like a sex offender and the other is
just trash. I feel bad for the models though being paid with fake
checks could that also mean fake health test.
I guess all anyone can do is warn the people they know
in the business.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:41 PM   #7
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Ibill is an independent billing agent for Sexalot Pro

http://www.sexalotnyc.com/Member%20Sign%20Up.htm

LOL whats there addy? in NY?
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:42 PM   #8
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I think they were the guys that pulled one over on Amber Rayne (Rain). The talent she worked with had faked tests.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:43 PM   #9
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Ibill is involved. Go fucking figure.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:43 PM   #10
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LMFAO.... That has got to be the absolute WORST website design I have ever seen
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:44 PM   #11
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talent dont take no checks here in cali

that's weird??? I write checks everyday to talent . . hmmmmmm?
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:45 PM   #12
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I dont know why they would take a check. I even show the girl the cash on the few times that I have shot someone.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:46 PM   #13
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Ibill is an independent billing agent for Sexalot Pro

http://www.sexalotnyc.com/Member%20Sign%20Up.htm

LOL whats there addy? in NY?

According to their WHOIS public records:
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:53 PM   #14
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and in the sex industry you never take a check
Everybody should write that down!
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:54 PM   #15
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bump for you, so everone can know...
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:57 PM   #16
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I put it on the front page of my webcam girl site. http://www.webcamworkers.com
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:57 PM   #17
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According to their WHOIS public records:
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Thats A UPS Store Mailbox Addy. The "Suite" number corresponds to the box
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:57 PM   #18
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:58 PM   #19
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Why would they take a check in the first place?

"If" they MUST take a check, they should have the producers drive them to their bank BEFORE the shoot to cash it.

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I always pay by check. No exceptions.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:59 PM   #20
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:00 PM   #21
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WEll I am no lawyer, but....

If a model agrees to post and release copyright to her image in exchange for compensation and the check bounces then the release becomes null and void.

I would contact a lawyer and file suit Because they are using images that technically belong to someone else, i.e., the models.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:01 PM   #22
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hahaha, those fuckers stole graphics from the original bangbus tour.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:03 PM   #23
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:04 PM   #24
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isn't against the law to write a bad check
in this country
wouldn't you think the cops would have busted them
by now
I heard about these guys two years ago and if you
read the first post links, there still doing it, that's some
amazing shit.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:07 PM   #25
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THat sucks it gives us all a bad name, we pay with a company check. Things like this make it hard to pay that way and I dont blame the girls.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:09 PM   #26
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WEll I am no lawyer, but....

If a model agrees to post and release copyright to her image in exchange for compensation and the check bounces then the release becomes null and void.

I would contact a lawyer and file suit Because they are using images that technically belong to someone else, i.e., the models.

You said it. You are not a lawyer.

"Technically speaking" the images belong to the person who shot them. There is no law which states that a release is even required.

This is EXACTLY why you should always pay by check. A model could turn around and claim that you never paid her if you give her cash. By paying with a check it forces the model to cash it and that means that yet another person is checking her ID and that person is usually a bank employee which is connected to a federal system. So now you have yet another way to prove that she is who she says she is and is of age plus you get a copy of the cashed check showing that the model has been paid.

Could a model come back and sue you? Sure, you can be sued for anything these days but lets face it.....Most models are too broke to afford an attorney and most attorneys will not take a case like this on a contingency over a few hundred bucks.

The guys need to get their asses beat, nothing else will really relay the message correctly.
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:55 PM   #27
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:10 PM   #28
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Yea I love this post towards the end of the
xxxporntalk thread link, some model agent Eli that was
almost taken by these guys:

http://www.xxxporntalk.com//ubbthrea...=&fpart=2&vc=1

I've known about these guys since 2002. I booked with them also, but required they pay for the hotel upfront for our talent and then pay in cash. They paid for the room, but still tried the fake check thing. Fortunatly, I know they were going to do this and I booked a shoot with another client in the hotel they paid for.

As an agent, I have a policy that if a non-known company (someone other than Anabolic/Diabolic, Redlight, New Sensation, etc) can not provide at least 2 model references I only accept cash for the first assignment, after that checks are fine until there is a problem. As a company I certify that the models get paid. If the client screws over a girl, I pay her personaly out of my pocket. Needless to say, that hasn't happend to me yet.
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lol. they have webmaster likes to xbiz on a surfer site. thanks for the extra surfers on the boards yo! not.
http://exchange.xbiz.com/bpwork2.cgi...NonSSI&page=33
i bet their joins are through the roof with this link from the credit card submit button
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:42 PM   #30
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