Good point about no one compares to jordan or magic or bird

I just moved out here from Fort Lauderdale and I'm a huge Heat fan. I went to the home opener against the Pacers when Shaq got injured.
They're gonna be fine once J. Will, Posey and Walker all get in synch with the rest of the team. And Zo coming off the bench when Shaq is back. Oh my! :thumbsup

Again... we are talking facts.. What has kobe done ? Won championships.. please! He would have never passed the first round w/o Shaq! Actually HE DID NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITHOUT SHAQ :winkwink:

Tell me what has kobe done? How much better have his teams been since he's been playing? How many MVP has he won? Even what he is only good at.. scoring, how many scoring titles?

Punk! Kobe aint shit! bitch!

Even better.. just look up match ups.. Check the games where kobe and wade have played against each other.. look at the records and look at stats!!

And just in case.. This xmas.. we'll see it !! :winkwink: :thumbsup

You're all wiggers.

Every single last one of you bastards.

Let's see: In Wade's rookie season, they went to the second round of the playoffs--without Shaq btw. And in his second season, he and the Heat went to the Eastern Conference finals, playing with an injury as was Shaq.
Hey Kobe, :321GFY

This thread is saturated with people who THINK they know basketball. Lebron will never come anywhere close to breaking the amount of records that Michael Jordan has.

Read and Learn:

Five-time NBA Most Valuable Player (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98)

Ten-time All-NBA First Team selection (1986-87 to 1992-93, 1995-96 to 1997-98)

Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"

A member of six Chicago Bulls NBA championship teams (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97 and 1997-98)

Six-time NBA Finals Most Valuable Player

The 1987-88 NBA Defensive Player of the Year and record nine-time NBA All-Defensive First Team selection (1987-88 to 1992-93, 1995-96 to 1997-98)

Entering 2002-03, ranked first in NBA history in scoring average (31.0 ppg), second in steals (2,391), fourth in points (30,652) and in field-goals made (11,513), fifth in free-throws made (7,061), sixth in field-goals attempted (23,010) and eighth in free-throws attempted (8,448)

Closed the 1997-98 season as the Bulls' all-time franchise leader in points, rebounds (5,836), assists (5,012), steals, games (930), field-goals made and attempted and free-throws made and attempted (8,115)

Holds the NBA record for most seasons leading the league in scoring (10)

Shares the NBA record with Wilt Chamberlain for most consecutive seasons leading the league in scoring (seven, 1986-87 to 1992-93)

Holds the NBA record for most consecutive games scoring in double-digits (842)

Holds the NBA record for most seasons leading the league in field-goals made (10) and attempted (10)

Led the NBA in steals in 1987-88 (3.16 spg), 1989-90 (2.77 spg) and 1992-93 (2.83 spg)

Holds the NBA single-game records for most free-throws made in one half (20 against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92) and most most free-throws attempted in one half (23 in the same game)

Shares the NBA single-game records for most free-throws made in one quarter (14 against the Utah Jazz on 11/15/89 and against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92) and most free-throws attempted in one quarter (23 against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92)

Holds the NBA Finals record for highest single-series scoring average (41.0 ppg in 1993)

Entering the 2002-03 season, ranks as the all-time NBA Finals leader in three-pointers made (42), second in three-point attempts (114), third in points (1,176), fourth in steals (62), fifth in field-goals made (438), sixth in assists (209) and free-throws made (258), seventh in field-goals attempted (911) and eighth in free-throws attempted (320)

Holds the NBA Playoffs record for highest career scoring average (33.4 ppg)

Established an NBA Playoffs record with 63 points against the Boston Celtics on 5/20/86

Entering the 2002-03 season ranks as the all-time NBA Playoffs leader in field-goals attempted (4,497), free-throws made (1,463) and attempted (1,766), second in steals (376) and field-goals made (2,188), fifth in assists (1,022), seventh in three-point attempts (446) and ninth in three-pointers made (148)

Recorded two playoff career triple-doubles, both against the New York Knicks (5/9/89 and 6/2/93)

Participated in 13 NBA All-Star Games (1985, 1987-1993, 1996-98, 2002-03), starting 13 times, and missed another due to injury

Named the MVP of the 1988, 1996 and 1998 NBA All-Star Games

All-time NBA All-Star Game leader in steals (35) and ranks second in field-goal attempts (206), third in points (242), fourth in scoring average (20.2 ppg), and eighth in assists (52)

Notched the first triple-double in All-Star Game history, with 14 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists, in the 1997 NBA All-Star Game in Cleveland

Won the Slam Dunk Contest in 1987 and 1988, also participating in 1985

Notched his 28th career triple-double, with 30 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists, against the Toronto Raptors on 4/14/97

Returned from retirement against the Indiana Pacers on 3/19/95 and posted 19 points, six rebounds, six assists and three steals in 43 minutes





Remember Jordan went to college and STILL had this type of impact on the game. Lebron didn't go to college so he has a head start and he STILL wont even come to close. If you think he is the next Jordan, that man has a lot of work to do. Jordan broke A LOT of his records in the playoffs!

Also remember that the NBA today is different from the NBA of yesterday. Jordan went through Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas and all the other greats of that time to get his championships. He's played with and beat the best.

Lebron is good but he aint that good.

If anyone will come close, it will be Duane Wayde.

Jordan? Please.

However, I think you can compare him to another Bull... Scottie Pippen. Lebron will be better than Pippen, but only in the sense that he'll get 7-10 more points a game and be the go to guy. Overall skills wise I don't think he'll top Pippen though.

I don't see anybody currently in the NBA who can fill Jordan's shoes within the next decade.

Have to start by saying up front I am a Kobe Hater. His punk ass needs to give those rings back. He is the most overated player in the NBA. Man felt good to get that off my chest.

D$ keep C-town alive with me bro.

Don't talk about something you know nothing about

Grant Hill............hot wife....game is lame
Kobe Bryant..........little cry baby
Vince Carter.............scrub
Lebron james.............I agree
Dwyane Wade..............I agree
Penny Hardaway................has been
Jerry Stackhouse...............Bum
Tracy McGrady............had 1 good game, too bad it wasn't in the playoffs

Thats my wrap up...Holla

:1orglaugh

D-Money, we know you're sorry and will never make the mistake of making a thread like this again :winkwink:

When he wins some championships then he is the next jordan till then hes a maybe

LOL

I just felt like getting mad views. Didn't know people were so passionate about this topic.

But I will still say, if anyone has the ability to do it, it's LeBron. All those stats you pull out on Jordan, well of course, he's Jordan and LeBron has many years ahead of him to live up to my projection. So let's not jump on the "D$ don't know shit about basketball wagon". The only way I can prove my statement to be correct will take years. So to say I'm wrong, you'll have to wait and see. I'm not wrong yet and I'm not right yet either.

You guys need to specify what it is you are comparing. Are you talking about raw talent, or someone who makes his team better and makes them win. If you compare VC, Kobe, Dwade and Lebron, you'd have to give raw abilities/talent to either Kobe or Vince Carter, and if you want to argue this, see Vince's games, or his dunk contests, or kobe's games. In terms of making his team better, Lebron and DWade get that, but I can't see which of the two are better, because they are both doing good things. Whoever said this was right, Lebron will reach his potential quickly, and it won't be in the same ballpark as Michael Jordan. In terms of excitement, I still think TMAC or VC or Kobe or Iverson, are the best and most exciting players in the game, followed by Lebron. There's a LOT of guys you people fail to mention in terms of building a legacy or being amazing, just because of all the stupid Lebron hype. I will not be surprised if Lebron doesn't win a ring during his entire career.

Very true.. There's only one Michael Jordan. :thumbsup

Besides, James still needs strong back up ffrom th bench to ensure the team a spot on the play offs..

No one is going to be the next MJ.. but he sure is a player with uber raw talent.

Fuck, for old times sake, let's throw in Harold Miners name also :1orglaugh

IMO, no one can compare MJ to some other NBA players. they can step up in their teams but they won't be able to play like MJ's.

I need to watch more NBA

lebron will be lebron and cement his own legacy

no one willl be the next MJ

100 wojjjjjjjjjjj.

yes! I won..

fuck you woj...I'm the greatest

Anyone believe me yet?

Man, last time I posted and bumped this old thread, not one person contested my controversial thread.

Why?

Cause Lebron is silencing the haters with his record setting playoff start.

Anyone still doubt my words?

There will always be one Jordon, no one will be exactly like him as no one will be exactly like Lebron.

Lebron has size, smarts, moves, jumps and can take over a game without another big time player.

You are all witnessing greatness.

Kobe got game too. But Lebron has the potential to be the best ever.

Potential.

Lebron James is the next Michael Jordon, Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson and a bag of chips.

I hate to tell ya but I will supass Micheal and have my own name. I got more all around skill than he did .. no disrespect.

He can't rebound or assist like I can. In 5 years, people will say that I am the best to ever play the game.

Im with ya D$

players should try to make their own legacy on the game and not try to "be the next". make your own mark and be recognized :)

Lebron is a great player and one day i am sure he will win a title or two :)

He has the potential, you are correct.

maybe if you made the prediction while he was in jr high it'd be noteworthy, but by his senior year in HS, the whole "next michael jordan" label was already placed on him.

D, I see what you're saying and I agree. He's not the next Jordan per se, but he is the next uncontested wizard with incredible skill on the court and will one day be ranked as one of the best players to ever play the game.

...Jordan is a legend!!! :smokin

there wont be another sory

he could be the next coming.... not quite as sure as you though YET

I'd say he's a damn good player, 2nd best after Kobe IMO. He's a different player than Jordan though. Kobe more resembles Jordan than Lebron. Lebron has no D or clutch.