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				3 Day Special! 25% off SEO Classes! + check out this new top 10 google spot!
			 
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			I have posted here on GFY many times and I have now taught 25+ people from GFY etc everything they need to know about the SE's to get TOP TEN SPOTS! Before I go any further let me show you some examples of top ten spots I have now and the NEW exciting spot I just recently got for a client: HOT NEW TOP TEN SPOT - "GAY PORN" IN GOOGLE: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...:en&q=gay+porn - gaymoviedome.com Other examples: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...3Aen&q=nubiles - Nubilesgirls.com http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=nub...&cop=&ei=UTF-8 - Nubilegirls.com http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fre...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt - roccomovies.net http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fre...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt - roccomovies.net http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fre...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt - roccomovies.net http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fre...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt - roccomovies.net http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...n&q=sex+movies - roccomovies.net http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bus...&cop=&ei=UTF-8 - 995busty.com http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bus...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt - 995busty.com http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=big...&cop=&ei=UTF-8 - joggs.com http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...Aen&q=big+tits - joggs.com http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=han...&cop=&ei=UTF-8 - simplyhandjobs.deluxepass.com/index-main.html Course's Offered ------------------------ I offer 2 different courses: Full course (for seo noobs) - 4 to 6 hours of teaching + endless ongoing support - $1000 (sale price $750) Advanced course (for people who know seo but havent got results) - 2 to 3 hours of teaching + endless ongoing support - $500 (sale price $375) I do all teaching one on one via skype/phone/icq. It is also possible to purchase a transcript of a previous taught course for a further 10% discount where you take the info and read/learn it on your own time - then get back together with me to ask specific questions and devise a specific attack plan for your sites or for what you have in mind. All courses come with access to 100+ link trades from sites with PR Course Details ---------------------- I teach you everything from adult to mainstream to blackhat. I teach you how everything works and why it does. I teach you how to get top ten spots for huge keywords (like shown above). I teach you how to get traffic from google and yahoo within a week on smaller terms. I teach you how to grow your se traffic. I teach you how to effectively expand your se site portfolio. I review your sites and figure out the best strategy for maximzing its success. I give you an attack plan to follow once we are done on what to build etc. I provide endless ongoing support to answer questions, proof work before uploading etc. There is nothing you will need to "figure out" everything is laid out for you so you have a clear understanding of how evertying works and also a clear cut plan of what to build to achieve whatever you want. With my information there is absolutely no way you can fail. FAQ ---- Q. How much time does it take work on SEO for me to get anywhere? A. 1hr per day and you can build yourself quite a large revenue stream. Q. How long does it take before I notice results in the SE's? A. Approx 60-90 days for a competitive big terms in Yahoo (12months in google unless its an old domain) and 7-10 days for small terms in google and yahoo. Q. What kind of technical knowledge do I need to do this? A. Just basic understanding of html and the ability to make webpages. Q. What about other expenses for SEO sites? A. Your only expenses are domain registration and extremely cheap hosting. A cheap $35/mth hosting package is enough to sustain 8 websites. Q. Do I need content etc to put on my SEO sites? A. No. You can use 100% advertisements on your sites - there are no restrictions in that aspect. You have complete control to put what you want and change it anytime. Q. Who are you? A. My name is Mike and I live in Vancouver BC Canada. I have been involved in the adult industry since 2000. I have been offerring seo services for the last 2 years. I am responsible for many top ten rankings for clients (which you can see above) and I have taught 25+ people from this board SEO over the since I began offering teaching services. Q. Why is teaching better? Can't I just pay you to get my site ranked for me? A. By learning how to do it yourself you are able to create 10+ sites for ranking. This way you are guaranteed success because you arent limited to having 1 site get ranked or not. The nature of the se's is that even if you do everything right only a fraction 50-75% of your sites will rank well. By working on multiple sites you ensure success. Q. Isn't this kind of information available free on the internet? A. Some of it is yes. If you want to spend a year reading through all the information out there and try and determine what is true and what works etc... then go through all the trial and error wihtout knowing any shortcuts etc - be my guest - most people's time is worth more than this headache. There is also a lot of information I teach that you can not find anywhere on the net for free. The same can be said about the adult industry in general... every aspect of the adult industry has tutorials and info out there readily available and yet 80% of webmasters don't make more than $2k/mth. Those other 20% know something you dont - they are working a different plan of attack then you are. Q. What if the core fundamentals of how SE's rank sites changes drastically some day? A. I will figure out how to get ranked and then pass that info along to all my students. Q. If you are so good at seo - why offer these services at all - why not just make your own sites? A. I used to do this - then I sold all my sites to a program owner I have been consulting and teaching as my primary income for the last several years. This takes up much of my time and I'm content with the lifestyle this gives me. I have started working on my own sites again after now having totally refined the seo process so once my own sites are up and ranked I will no longer be offering consutling/teaching services. So take advantage of this while its still available ;) All of my students are very happy and some of them are starting to see great results already I can provide many references of happy students. I am the only seo consutlant to post on GFY with examples of top ten results and many happy references. If you have any questions or to get started and arrange a time for teaching or to purchase a copy of a transcript please hit me up on icq 333485092 or email at [email protected] 
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		 for everyone that doubts this guy he's solid and will give you what you pay for... what you're paying for is information 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			while he does offer trades from his own network YOU STILL HAVE TO WORK on your own from my experience, he'll give you a crash course on how to get started and also answer any future questions you may have... he hasnt kept any "secrets" or anything like that... you will get exactly what you need and so far i see lots of people bashing him yet he's one of the only guys that have actually posted PROOF of what he's capable of sure you can read up all you want on seo sites, dissect messageboard posts... and waste weeks to months on trial and error or you can hit the ground running by spending a few bucks 
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		 heh I have a bunch of top 10 spots for various nubiles girls. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I am currently moving up in SE's with jojojo's help and I am liking what I am seeing so far. I try to spend as much time as possible on SEO as possible. That being said my progress is a little slower than most, although I am pleased with the results. This is not a false statemnets on jojojo's part he can help you on your way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Hey JOJO... just wanted to let you know... this site you showed as example... I just took a look at it... http://www.gaymoviedome.com/... it's is far away from having a good SEO... it is there because it has some 1900+ links... the on page SEO sucks... lots of keyword stuffing... repeats... even the TITLE is not properly set... so if this is how you adviced your client to do... I have to tell you are not quite a good SEO guy.... and your prices are pretty high... so ppl if you want to learn almost all the SEO tips&tricks (because nobody in the world doesn't know them  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Btw pradaboy ... I can get you top 10 with that keyword... if you are interested hit me up at razvan at blackbookescorts dot com ... money paid only after you get the results so you don't have to worry about me trying to ripp you off  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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   wtf are you talking about  ![]() I did this work FOR a client who even with 1900+ links wasn't even in the top 500 for gay porn and now he is top ten. The title isn't set properly lol?? I'm looking at your site and this is your title tag: AngelsDesign angels design website design logos marketing webdesign seo banners LOL noob... ![]() My prices aren't high... my advanced course is only $375 You get what you pay for in life. But maybe you guys should hire this no name broken english noob who has no references and no examples of top spots - just his own site to go on which has this great title tag lol 
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