The Reason I Won't Go To A Webmaster Dinner That Is Thrown Together Last Minute - GoFuckYourself.com

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 07:59 PM

Honest answer because I will end up paying...

No offence to you at all Odie, you know how much I love ya but that is the reality. In LA a couple of weeks back, Magnus went out to dinner with a couple of our buddies from COHF and word quickly got around for anyone that wasn't attending a sponsored dinner that there were a few people having dinner in the hotel restaurant.

Anyways this dinner was very clearly a "non-sponsored dinner" from the getgo. But a whole pile of people ended up showing up..

Well inevitably the cheque showed up and everyone bolted like the cheap fucks that they were. Magnus, Joel from Gamma and a few other people got stuck with the bill.

This situation has happened to me personally so many times I care not to remember. Hence the reason I won't go to a dinner that will inevitably turn into a clusterfuck with people either forgetting their wallets or expecting me, Sleazydream or Platinum Dave to pay LOL!

Anyways I don't want to talk down or discourage a webmaster dinner it's just that if it's going down please make sure you bring your wallet and don't be a cheap fuck when the bill shows up.

We remember cheap asses ;)

DH

Sly · 11-29-2005, 08:01 PM

I'll never stiff you again. Next time just push me into the pool and I'll learn my lesson.

TDF · 11-29-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'll never stiff you again. Next time just push me into the pool and I'll learn my lesson.

tony286 · 11-29-2005, 08:04 PM

why not just say separate checks the moment you sit down. Saves you grief.

Oracle Porn · 11-29-2005, 08:05 PM

I find your post ironic....

Phoenix · 11-29-2005, 08:09 PM

that seriously sucks...but we will see you Saturday night right?

im going down expecting fully to pay my own way

this dinner is just people gettin together..nothing is "sponsored"

chadglni · 11-29-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

why not just say separate checks the moment you sit down. Saves you grief.

Give him a break, we're too nice for that in Canada.

WiredGuy · 11-29-2005, 08:29 PM

Actually, something similiar did happen at the same dinner last year. Most people did end up paying but that was because Odie went around with the bill collecting from people. But like you said a few people got stuck with a large bill. It is a pain but I think if you know who's going then it should be fine. Making it open invite does become a bit of a problem, especially with people you don't know very well.

WG

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'll never stiff you again. Next time just push me into the pool and I'll learn my lesson.

LOL!

DH

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

why not just say separate checks the moment you sit down. Saves you grief.

They did.

DH

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

that seriously sucks...but we will see you Saturday night right?

im going down expecting fully to pay my own way

this dinner is just people gettin together..nothing is "sponsored"

Brad I always buy you dinner, but you will have to put on your high school jacket and perform afterwards

DH

tony286 · 11-29-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

They did.

DH

Im confused then how did you have to pay for them lol

MaDalton · 11-29-2005, 08:34 PM

i would suggest a flat fee for dinner and drinks and everyone has to pay to get in...

and whoever wants to drink more than included has to pay directly

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Actually, something similiar did happen at the same dinner last year. Most people did end up paying but that was because Odie went around with the bill collecting from people. But like you said a few people got stuck with a large bill. It is a pain but I think if you know who's going then it should be fine. Making it open invite does become a bit of a problem, especially with people you don't know very well.

WG

Odie should'nt have to go knocking on doors to get people to pay for their own bills. She is kind enough to go out of her way to setup these great dinners and ask nothing in return but a thank you as you leave.

She's a saint in this business

DH

Sly · 11-29-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Im confused then how did you have to pay for them lol

The people bailed before the checks were delivered. Therefore, somebody had to pay the bill. Guess who? Anybody left at the table.

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Im confused then how did you have to pay for them lol

Because they walked out, the first cheque came to Magnus and as he took his wallet out to pay they all got up and left.

They figured he was a rich mofo and would just pick up the entire tab.

DH

Sly · 11-29-2005, 08:37 PM

I need to grow some tits so I can get free dinners, too. Brad how did you grow your beautiful breastses?

sickkittens · 11-29-2005, 08:37 PM

That sucks. It's bad enough going out w/ a bunch of friends and getting screwed; nevermind a bunch of webmasters who you barely know.

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i would suggest a flat fee for dinner and drinks and everyone has to pay to get in...

and whoever wants to drink more than included has to pay directly

That sounds like a great idea but what are you going to do have a debit/credit card machine out infront of the restaurant making sure everyone pays? Plus there are always "hanger ons" people that come along with people in the industry for free drinks/dinners.

Everyone is a friend of someone's.

DH

BradM · 11-29-2005, 08:38 PM

I fuck for food.

eroswebmaster · 11-29-2005, 08:38 PM

Phoenix 2004 there was a little get together that wasn't sponsored.
I owed someone a dinner for a few favors so I told him I would be picking up his tab.
Well there were about 4 people who worked for an unnamed sponsor, they were the only ones at the table drinking and of course ran up a huge bill.

Long story short in the end I ended up paying something like $50-$60 over what I owed for my tab only to find out later that the person I bought dinner for still had to throw in $25 after I left because those bozos wouldn't take care of their own shit.

I see it all the time at our local webmaster dinner, and once again the ones who seem a bit preoccupied when it comes time to pay the bill are the ones who buy the bottles of wine, the appetizers etc...and me my $7 burger and $2.50 glass of diet coke ends up costing me $25...LOL

RogerV · 11-29-2005, 08:39 PM

Happens to me all the time.. Thats why I dont do dinners with those who dont make me money

Juicy D. Links · 11-29-2005, 08:39 PM

Mark,

Same shit has happened to me at stripclubs.

WiredGuy · 11-29-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Odie should'nt have to go knocking on doors to get people to pay for their own bills. She is kind enough to go out of her way to setup these great dinners and ask nothing in return but a thank you as you leave.

She's a saint in this business

DH

Thank god for her too! She knew people would bolt and good thing she did go around asking people to pitch in or she would have been stiffed even worse by the end of the night. She did a great job even when there was at least 30 extra people than originally invited. It does suck that we need someone to go around collecting, but let's face it, a lot of people in this business try to stick the tab on someone else. Its sad but a reality

WG

LiveDose · 11-29-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

That sucks. It's bad enough going out w/ a bunch of friends and getting screwed; nevermind a bunch of webmasters who you barely know.

Seriously, that sucks... Somethings happen over and over in every circle...

Sly · 11-29-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

It does suck that we need someone to go around collecting, but let's face it, a lot of people in this business try to stick the tab on someone else. Its sad but a reality

Now I'm kind of curious... is it predominantly the pikers that don't last long anyway, or is it also people that have been around for years and make a good living? I've never personally seen it happen so I don't really know, I've heard plenty of stories though.

dynastoned · 11-29-2005, 08:44 PM

what i don't understand is if you know your shit costed like 15-18 bucks just throw down a 20 and that would be the end of it.. instead it seems everyones a fuckin penny pinching whore who wants to make sure they pay the exact amount on the bill and it just becomes a cluster fuck. so i know exactly what you're talking about and i think its lame..

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Long story short in the end I ended up paying something like $50-$60 over what I owed for my tab only to find out later that the person I bought dinner for still had to throw in $25 after I left because those bozos wouldn't take care of their own shit.

Oh fuck $60 consider yourself blessed! I've been stuck with bills in the hundreds from cheap fucks that won't pay their own way and run out on bills.

DH

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Mark,

Same shit has happened to me at stripclubs.

LOL! Juicy, Scores ain't cheap buddy ;)

DH

Juicy D. Links · 11-29-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Oh fuck $60 consider yourself blessed! I've been stuck with bills in the hundreds from cheap fucks that won't pay their own way and run out on bills.

DH

DH when you buying me dinner?

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Happens to me all the time.. Thats why I dont do dinners with those who dont make me money

So that is why I am never invited haha! ;)

DH

tony286 · 11-29-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Because they walked out, the first cheque came to Magnus and as he took his wallet out to pay they all got up and left.

They figured he was a rich mofo and would just pick up the entire tab.

DH

thats very fucked up

I would of posted their names on gfy as the deadbeat club

WiredGuy · 11-29-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Now I'm kind of curious... is it predominantly the pikers that don't last long anyway, or is it also people that have been around for years and make a good living? I've never personally seen it happen so I don't really know, I've heard plenty of stories though.

I don't know. I can't imagine why the old timers wouldn't put in, after all why would someone who's been around this business for years wanna ruin their rep for bailing on a $40 - $60 meal? Its possible I suppose but I can't see it happening that often. I'm guessing the majority of this is the friend of someone in this business type dealio.

WG

dynastoned · 11-29-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Oh fuck $60 consider yourself blessed! I've been stuck with bills in the hundreds from cheap fucks that won't pay their own way and run out on bills.

DH

ahhh so people just straight up left without paying? man i would be fucking pissed lol... some people really have the nerve..

Juicy D. Links · 11-29-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

LOL! Juicy, Scores ain't cheap buddy ;)

DH

Nah it wasnt scores loll

It was at a few shows , we got some people going and shit and same scenario, we get vip section , I lay amex down and shit and then at the end few people left n shit.

But i know what you mean bro.

RogerV · 11-29-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Now I'm kind of curious... is it predominantly the pikers that don't last long anyway, or is it also people that have been around for years and make a good living? I've never personally seen it happen so I don't really know, I've heard plenty of stories though.

Normally the sales reps for companies most business owners understand and always pic up the tab.. at least thats been my experience thats why I mostly only deal with the owners who make the decisions

eroswebmaster · 11-29-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Oh fuck $60 consider yourself blessed! I've been stuck with bills in the hundreds from cheap fucks that won't pay their own way and run out on bills.

DH

LOL I'm sure. Like I said I see it all the time at the small dinners.

I guess my story wasn't so much about how much it cost me, but the fact that I tried to do something nice for someone who did me a favor and he still had to pay

ShaneRyale · 11-29-2005, 08:50 PM

Thanks to Magnus and DH for picking up part of the bill with us, and of course for the passes to the Mansion!

We always have a great time with you guys.

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I don't know. I can't imagine why the old timers wouldn't put in, after all why would someone who's been around this business for years wanna ruin their rep for bailing on a $40 - $60 meal? Its possible I suppose but I can't see it happening that often. I'm guessing the majority of this is the friend of someone in this business type dealio.

WG

Old timers always pitch in or pick up the next dinner. It's always sales reps or independents...

DH

RogerV · 11-29-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

So that is why I am never invited haha! ;)

DH

I take care of my peeps real nice... I've learned over the years to reward those who do biz with me from those I want to do biz with..

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneRyale

Thanks to Magnus and DH for picking up part of the bill with us, and of course for the passes to the Mansion!

We always have a great time with you guys.

Poppers you cheap fuck, stop skipping out on the bills LOL!

Sorry I forgot you guys paid for the tab too, I get sketchy alcoholic 2nd hand information when I talk to Magnus about anything these days ;)

DH

CDSmith · 11-29-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I would of posted their names on gfy as the deadbeat club

The deadbeat club.... I like that.

"Who's going to the ShitCash dinner?"

"Oh ME ME! I want 4 tickets!!"

"Sorry, (checks list).... you're in the deadbeat club. No soup for you"

:D

Martin · 11-29-2005, 08:58 PM

I wish I could get invited to these "free dinners" hehe....

elitetec · 11-29-2005, 08:59 PM

you guys shouldve walked out too

stevo · 11-29-2005, 09:00 PM

Why not just ask the waiters to split the bill before ordering? Then everyone knows they're paying for themselves.

eroswebmaster · 11-29-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo

Why not just ask the waiters to split the bill before ordering? Then everyone knows they're paying for themselves.

Big groups they don't like to do that..too much work.

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elitetec

you guys shouldve walked out too

DH

beemk · 11-29-2005, 09:05 PM

damn, if i would have known GTS was sponsoring a dinner i woulda showed up and ordered 5 prime ribs.

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elitetec

you guys shouldve walked out too

And let the poor waiter eat the bill? No thanks I have more class than that.

DH

GTS Mark · 11-29-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

damn, if i would have known GTS was sponsoring a dinner i woulda showed up and ordered 5 prime ribs.

LOL! See I always add in about $600 extra at every dinner I go to with you.

DH

11-29-2005, 07:59 PM	#1
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	The Reason I Won't Go To A Webmaster Dinner That Is Thrown Together Last Minute Honest answer because I will end up paying... No offence to you at all Odie, you know how much I love ya but that is the reality. In LA a couple of weeks back, Magnus went out to dinner with a couple of our buddies from COHF and word quickly got around for anyone that wasn't attending a sponsored dinner that there were a few people having dinner in the hotel restaurant. Anyways this dinner was very clearly a "non-sponsored dinner" from the getgo. But a whole pile of people ended up showing up.. Well inevitably the cheque showed up and everyone bolted like the cheap fucks that they were. Magnus, Joel from Gamma and a few other people got stuck with the bill. This situation has happened to me personally so many times I care not to remember. Hence the reason I won't go to a dinner that will inevitably turn into a clusterfuck with people either forgetting their wallets or expecting me, Sleazydream or Platinum Dave to pay LOL! Anyways I don't want to talk down or discourage a webmaster dinner it's just that if it's going down please make sure you bring your wallet and don't be a cheap fuck when the bill shows up. We remember cheap asses ;) DH

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eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Phoenix 2004 there was a little get together that wasn't sponsored. I owed someone a dinner for a few favors so I told him I would be picking up his tab. Well there were about 4 people who worked for an unnamed sponsor, they were the only ones at the table drinking and of course ran up a huge bill. Long story short in the end I ended up paying something like $50-$60 over what I owed for my tab only to find out later that the person I bought dinner for still had to throw in $25 after I left because those bozos wouldn't take care of their own shit. I see it all the time at our local webmaster dinner, and once again the ones who seem a bit preoccupied when it comes time to pay the bill are the ones who buy the bottles of wine, the appetizers etc...and me my $7 burger and $2.50 glass of diet coke ends up costing me $25...LOL __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

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