For those who don't support the Iraq war: What can Bush say to change your mind? - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 11-29-2005, 04:06 PM

Just sitting here listening to the news and they were talking about the President going on another leg of his "tour" tomorrow including a major speech to drum up support from the American public for the Iraq war.

Is there anything he hasn't already said that he can say now that will bring those of you who have changed your mind about the war or never supported it in the first place to solidly standing behind him and the administration's "strategy" in Iraq?

tony286 · 11-29-2005, 04:15 PM

nothing the lying puppet can say to change my mind

StuartD · 11-29-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

nothing the lying puppet can say to change my mind

jawanda · 11-29-2005, 04:17 PM

at this point, nothing.

in the beginning there were things he could have done differently that would have softened my stance, but it's really too late.

adultchica · 11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

Yeah, nothing at this point could change my mind now.

StickyGreen · 11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

i wish we had a working crystal ball that could show you what the middle east would be doing to us 20 years from now if we don't intervene and do something about it...

MikeyFingaz · 11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

that if he resigns immediately the seat of president

11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

If he told me he was suiting up, shipping out to Iraq and fighting with the other soldiers, I'd support him.

Until then, he can kiss my pasty white ass.

Sam Granger · 11-29-2005, 04:19 PM

Jack all.

dinkz · 11-29-2005, 04:20 PM

"We did it for the oil!"

Violetta · 11-29-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

that if he resigns immediately the seat of president

lol... just thinking the same thing!

candyflip · 11-29-2005, 04:20 PM

He could say this:

"Give me your support and I'll give you $10 million from my own pockets."

That might get me to consider.

Paul Waters · 11-29-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack

If he told me he was suiting up, shipping out to Iraq and fighting with the other soldiers, I'd support him.

Hold out for Cheney to do the same!

uno · 11-29-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

i wish we had a working crystal ball that could show you what the middle east would be doing to us 20 years from now if we don't intervene and do something about it...

Is the crystal ball you used in order to tell what the middle east would be doing in 20 years currently occupied or do we need to find our own?

uno · 11-29-2005, 04:23 PM

Jon Stewart summed it up perfectly now that the president is rehashing his initial arguments for the war and defending the initial intelligence on WMD.

"I swear, we didn't know we were lying, we're just incompetent."

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 11-29-2005, 04:24 PM

Support a bogus war and a failed post-war strategy? No thanks.

Develop a real exit strategy and let's get out. We've screwed up things so badly that by staying we are only prolonging the inevitable civil war between the Sunni and Shiite factions - as a sidebar the Kurds will wage their own war of independence as well.

Saddam was no Mr. Nice Dictator but we had him in a box. It is quite possible that an Iranian-backed Shiite proxy group will end up coming out on top. By toppling Saddam all we did was hand over the country to more extremist religious fanatics, who are no more friends of the U.S. than Saddam was.

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Bluewire Ross · 11-29-2005, 04:26 PM

Nothing!

Doctor Dre · 11-29-2005, 04:33 PM

The war is already started ... you guys gotta finish it and take care of your problems or this will become a huge mess

lawked · 11-29-2005, 04:46 PM

How can you support Bush when you know it's wrong?

Everyone that "decided" to go to war, must be tried for war crimes. We have international laws and President Bush killed hundreds of thousands of people. Just because he stands on US Soil does not make his wrongs, right.

Remember, Hitler had crazy support.. doing the samething. Attacking another country...

Remember tho, Bush is not "AMERICA"... he's a corrupt bastard. Slandering Bush is not bashing America.

I am Canadian. Growing up I have been proud to have close ties to the US and be proud of the US in the way they set international laws and respected freedoms. All of a sudden, the US is taking over another country and breaking every law possible. I would not have supported Hitler's camps, and I don't support Bush's terror camps.

Bush is a stain on the United States of America. If the country matters, stand united against this corrupt bastard... If the one person matters over the country... Stand united against America.

I fucking hate President Bush. During his first election I said to everyone... if Bush gets in, US and Iraq will be at war. Funny how things work.

I would probably give Bush more support if he sent his whore daughters over there. If it's right for his daughters, it's right for everyone.

Meanwhile China grows stronger everyday... Building up those military bases/resources.

sub.eric · 11-29-2005, 04:51 PM

I'm sorry, I lied, there was no need to invade, I did it because I was pissed off that Daddy Bush was unable to finish the job on those fucking towelheads and I'll pay the American People back all the money I spent on this useless invasion. I will personally go to every family who lost someone (American and Iraqui) and appoligize in person and make some sort of restitution.

That's never going to happen.

StuartD · 11-29-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

i wish we had a working crystal ball that could show you what the middle east would be doing to us 20 years from now if we don't intervene and do something about it...

Is that the same crystal ball that the Bush Administration used to find the WMD's in the first place?

Paul Waters · 11-29-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Saddam was no Mr. Nice Dictator but we had him in a box. It is quite possible that an Iranian-backed Shiite proxy group will end up coming out on top. By toppling Saddam all we did was hand over the country to more extremist religious fanatics, who are no more friends of the U.S. than Saddam was.

Saddam was your best dictator ally until you betrayed him over Kuwait.

He believed that he had your permission to 'liberate' Kuwait.

He invaded Iran for you, and wasted 100s of millions. He just wanted to stop Kuwait from over producing oil and driving the price down.

And don't forget how he terrorized the fundie Muslem, would be terrorists. He hated them more than you do.

Webby · 11-29-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Just sitting here listening to the news and they were talking about the President going on another leg of his "tour" tomorrow including a major speech to drum up support from the American public for the Iraq war.

Is there anything he hasn't already said that he can say now that will bring those of you who have changed your mind about the war or never supported it in the first place to solidly standing behind him and the administration's "strategy" in Iraq?

Nothing... Bush needs to fuck off back to Texas.... and that would be letting him off lightly.

He lied and fucked about in his own little world and deceived his own people by using the old threat - "our national security". That always presses the right buttons to get the anti up - especially when it comes "in the form of a mushroom cloud".

On Saddam himself - sure, he needed to disappear, so do loads of others - including Bush.

The bed is made - it's time for him to sleep in it and pay some price. Meanwhile, the sooner he goes, the sooner the US has a chance or limiting the damage and getting some cred and normality back.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack

If he told me he was suiting up, shipping out to Iraq and fighting with the other soldiers, I'd support him.

Until then, he can kiss my pasty white ass.

Hmm...a single person donning the uniform would change your mind. Interesting.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

that if he resigns immediately the seat of president

Hmm...based upon the actions of a single person you would change your mind and support the war. Interesting.

Fenris Wolf · 11-29-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Support a bogus war and a failed post-war strategy? No thanks.

Develop a real exit strategy and let's get out. We've screwed up things so badly that by staying we are only prolonging the inevitable civil war between the Sunni and Shiite factions - as a sidebar the Kurds will wage their own war of independence as well.

Saddam was no Mr. Nice Dictator but we had him in a box. It is quite possible that an Iranian-backed Shiite proxy group will end up coming out on top. By toppling Saddam all we did was hand over the country to more extremist religious fanatics, who are no more friends of the U.S. than Saddam was.

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Excellent insight and my thoughts from the very beginning even though I still believe we need to be there. As others have stated already, we already started this thing and we need to finish it. Future US credibility is at stake. And I am not just talking about current years but upwards of 50 years or more. If the current administration gives this war the full resources necessary to complete it you will find a measurable success. With the proper manpower, intelligence, support, funding, it can be achieved. Instead our current administration never took it seriously and undermined the war effort from the very beginning.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Jon Stewart summed it up perfectly now that the president is rehashing his initial arguments for the war and defending the initial intelligence on WMD.

"I swear, we didn't know we were lying, we're just incompetent."

As is every major intelligence agency in the world as they all conccured...with US intelligence...as did the UN.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Support a bogus war and a failed post-war strategy? No thanks.

Develop a real exit strategy and let's get out. We've screwed up things so badly that by staying we are only prolonging the inevitable civil war between the Sunni and Shiite factions - as a sidebar the Kurds will wage their own war of independence as well.

Saddam was no Mr. Nice Dictator but we had him in a box. It is quite possible that an Iranian-backed Shiite proxy group will end up coming out on top. By toppling Saddam all we did was hand over the country to more extremist religious fanatics, who are no more friends of the U.S. than Saddam was.

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There is a "real" exit strategy in place. What is it that you don't like about the strategy..."General"?

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lawked

How can you support Bush when you know it's wrong?

Everyone that "decided" to go to war, must be tried for war crimes. We have international laws and President Bush killed hundreds of thousands of people. Just because he stands on US Soil does not make his wrongs, right.

Remember, Hitler had crazy support.. doing the samething. Attacking another country...

Remember tho, Bush is not "AMERICA"... he's a corrupt bastard. Slandering Bush is not bashing America.

I am Canadian. Growing up I have been proud to have close ties to the US and be proud of the US in the way they set international laws and respected freedoms. All of a sudden, the US is taking over another country and breaking every law possible. I would not have supported Hitler's camps, and I don't support Bush's terror camps.

Bush is a stain on the United States of America. If the country matters, stand united against this corrupt bastard... If the one person matters over the country... Stand united against America.

I fucking hate President Bush. During his first election I said to everyone... if Bush gets in, US and Iraq will be at war. Funny how things work.

I would probably give Bush more support if he sent his whore daughters over there. If it's right for his daughters, it's right for everyone.

Meanwhile China grows stronger everyday... Building up those military bases/resources.

The only wrong thing about the "war" is if the mission fails...and I think it is going to fail because the American people are fickle. It will not fail if we see the mission completed.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters

Saddam was your best dictator ally until you betrayed him over Kuwait.

He believed that he had your permission to 'liberate' Kuwait.

He invaded Iran for you, and wasted 100s of millions. He just wanted to stop Kuwait from over producing oil and driving the price down.

And don't forget how he terrorized the fundie Muslem, would be terrorists. He hated them more than you do.

Nothing like posting the same...tired...misinformation/bs.

Shooting_Maniac1 · 11-29-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

i wish we had a working crystal ball that could show you what the middle east would be doing to us 20 years from now if we don't intervene and do something about it...

Oh really.... youre on crack! What more could they do? How many billion spent? How many American lives lost now?

All Bush could say now is "Im sorry I lied to you and put you in a war we had no business in. I was wrong and made huge errors"

If he said the above, finally telling the truth I might have an once of respect for the Jesus thumping moron.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Nothing... Bush needs to fuck off back to Texas.... and that would be letting him off lightly.

He lied and fucked about in his own little world and deceived his own people by using the old threat - "our national security". That always presses the right buttons to get the anti up - especially when it comes "in the form of a mushroom cloud".

On Saddam himself - sure, he needed to disappear, so do loads of others - including Bush.

The bed is made - it's time for him to sleep in it and pay some price. Meanwhile, the sooner he goes, the sooner the US has a chance or limiting the damage and getting some cred and normality back.

Hmm...he will be gone in three more years...and then you can turn your anti American hatred against the next President.

Vendot · 11-29-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

i wish we had a working crystal ball that could show you what the middle east would be doing to us 20 years from now if we don't intervene and do something about it...

What? Lets face it 9/11 happened but all the terrorist attacks post are *because* iraq/afghanistan was invaded.

Paul Waters · 11-29-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

The only wrong thing about the "war" is if the mission fails...and I think it is going to fail because the American people are fickle. It will not fail if we see the mission completed.

Is this history repeating itself?

Vietnam all over again?

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot

What? Lets face it 9/11 happened but all the attacks post are *because* iraq/afghanistan was invaded.

Wrong...we have been under attack for more than a decade... and those attacks would have continued. I will remind you that Bin Laden officially declared war on the US not once but twice...pre 9/11.

Vendot · 11-29-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Wrong...we have been under attack for more than a decade... and those attacks would have continued. I will remind you that Bin Laden officially declared war on the US not once but twice...pre 9/11.

Im talking about the vast majority.... the multiplication of hatred towards the west has undoubtedly been accelerated by the invasions of Iraq/Afghanistan.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters

Is this history repeating itself?

Vietnam all over again?

I have a very strong suspicion that it is. The American people won't support a long "war"...it seems.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters

Is this history repeating itself?

Vietnam all over again?

In addition the "war" is being micro managed by politicians...as it was in Vietnam. In Vietnam...micro management by civilians...prolonged the "war"...cost lives (on all sides)...and ultimately caused our withdrawal without having completed the mission.

Paul Waters · 11-29-2005, 05:42 PM

What if we were seeing photographs such as this one:

11-29-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Hmm...a single person donning the uniform would change your mind. Interesting.

It would change my mind about Bush. Relax... this thread wasn't put up for serious political debate. We all know that you and Bush have chemistry, and that's cool. We support that more than we do the war.

pornguy · 11-29-2005, 05:47 PM

there is nothing that he can say to get me to support his war.

But have any of you asked your selves why he is trying to get support for his war?? He only has 2 years left in office.

Michaelious · 11-29-2005, 05:49 PM

roll over and die!

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack

It would change my mind about Bush. Relax... this thread wasn't put up for serious political debate. We all know that you and Bush have chemistry, and that's cool. We support that more than we do the war.

Then you "all" are mistaken. I am not a fan of President Bush nor 99% of his policies...domestic and foreign. I did not vote for President Bush in either election.

theking · 11-29-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

there is nothing that he can say to get me to support his war.

But have any of you asked your selves why he is trying to get support for his war?? He only has 2 years left in office.

Try three years left...and because support among the American people for the "war" is taking a nose dive.

sacX · 11-29-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

As is every major intelligence agency in the world as they all conccured...with US intelligence...as did the UN.

The UN didn't concur with that intelligence.. When Colin Powell presented the BEST US evidence to the UN, Mohammed Al Baradei said many of the claims were unlikely, and the weapons inspectors who were actually on the ground in Iraq couldn't find any evidence of WMD

JamesK2 · 11-29-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

that if he resigns immediately the seat of president

theking · 11-29-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sacX

The UN didn't concur with that intelligence.. When Colin Powell presented the BEST US evidence to the UN, Mohammed Al Baradei said many of the claims were unlikely, and the weapons inspectors who were actually on the ground in Iraq couldn't find any evidence of WMD

The UN did concur that Iraq either possessed and/or was attempting to acquire WMD's/materials...as is reflected in the 17 or so resolutions passed (up to and including 1541) since the '91 Gulf "war".

theking · 11-29-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sacX

The UN didn't concur with that intelligence.. When Colin Powell presented the BEST US evidence to the UN, Mohammed Al Baradei said many of the claims were unlikely, and the weapons inspectors who were actually on the ground in Iraq couldn't find any evidence of WMD

In addition the UN inspectors that went in after 1541...also stated that they could not find any proof that Iraq had destroyed the remaining 5% of the WMD's/materials that he still possessed after the UN inspectors withdrew in '98...other than Iraq's assertion that they in fact had been destroyed.

directfiesta · 11-29-2005, 07:03 PM

Ex-Powell aide rips Bush on Iraq, detainees

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On Iraq, Wilkerson said Powell may have had doubts about the extent of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein but was convinced by then-CIA Director George Tenet and others that the intelligence behind the push toward war was sound.

Wilkerson said the CIA and other agencies allowed mishandled and bogus information to underpin that speech and the administration case for war.

He said he has almost, but not quite, concluded that Cheney and others in the administration deliberately ignored evidence of bad intelligence and looked only at what supported their case for war.

If you support this war, then you might as well say you supported Adolph Hitler ... or would of if you were of age.

The question will be, after you leave Iraq, how much $$$ will you have to pay for war compensation....

hydro · 11-29-2005, 07:06 PM

he can't change my mind but at least he could admit it was a fuck up.

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mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	For those who don't support the Iraq war: What can Bush say to change your mind? Just sitting here listening to the news and they were talking about the President going on another leg of his "tour" tomorrow including a major speech to drum up support from the American public for the Iraq war. Is there anything he hasn't already said that he can say now that will bring those of you who have changed your mind about the war or never supported it in the first place to solidly standing behind him and the administration's "strategy" in Iraq?

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lawked Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 354	How can you support Bush when you know it's wrong? Everyone that "decided" to go to war, must be tried for war crimes. We have international laws and President Bush killed hundreds of thousands of people. Just because he stands on US Soil does not make his wrongs, right. Remember, Hitler had crazy support.. doing the samething. Attacking another country... Remember tho, Bush is not "AMERICA"... he's a corrupt bastard. Slandering Bush is not bashing America. I am Canadian. Growing up I have been proud to have close ties to the US and be proud of the US in the way they set international laws and respected freedoms. All of a sudden, the US is taking over another country and breaking every law possible. I would not have supported Hitler's camps, and I don't support Bush's terror camps. Bush is a stain on the United States of America. If the country matters, stand united against this corrupt bastard... If the one person matters over the country... Stand united against America. I fucking hate President Bush. During his first election I said to everyone... if Bush gets in, US and Iraq will be at war. Funny how things work. I would probably give Bush more support if he sent his whore daughters over there. If it's right for his daughters, it's right for everyone. Meanwhile China grows stronger everyday... Building up those military bases/resources.

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