My first TGP - GoFuckYourself.com

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 06:00 AM

http://www.hollygalleries.com itr my first tgp i but some traffic 404 pages free hostings and i trade. I have stable 3500-4000 uniq daily. I have over 1000 galleries database only fhg.

Everything would be ok but i dont earn any cent for this TGP. This TG:P have some traffic from over 7 months. Maybe traffic is very unproductive or i must have over 10k to make some money or more?
But its very very strange for me in sponsor twistys i get 17536 wow its a lot, but no sales! Average ratio is 1:600 maybe for fhg can be higher but how many clicks should i have to make one sale? :/ I get average today 130-160 clicks daily.

In 2 sponsor that i use most fhg is Dollars4Babes i get at all: 29070, daily 250-300 daily and no sales too.

In glamoursgone bad, mediumpimpin sponsor i get at all: 1310 unq clicks, no sales.

So its at all great ratio about 0:48000 its bad

What do i wrong that my tgp dont earn?

Dagwolf · 11-27-2005, 06:04 AM

Hitbots don't buy memberships. Where's your traffic coming from?

kaori · 11-27-2005, 06:19 AM

well, I got a bunch of crappy trojan warnings when I went to your page..
bytverify
Exploit.mht
crap from afriz.biz and iframebiz.biz

but eitherway, you're using the same crappy fhg's that a billion other fake tgps are using...

absix · 11-27-2005, 06:55 AM

Get tid of the fucking Trojan-Dropper.VBS.Inor.cz

Dagwolf · 11-27-2005, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori

well, I got a bunch of crappy trojan warnings when I went to your page..
bytverify
Exploit.mht
crap from afriz.biz and iframebiz.biz

but eitherway, you're using the same crappy fhg's that a billion other fake tgps are using...

I didn't get any warnings. What security are you using?

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 07:06 AM

Traffic is from traders, at bottom is toplist
I install this dialer yesterday to earn sth sorry i delete it now.

Dagwolf · 11-27-2005, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Traffic is from traders, at bottom is toplist
I install this dialer yesterday to earn sth sorry i delete it now.

Find some new trading partners.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 07:09 AM

Another strange thing i have ttt script and when i login i see onyl site testing.com and with 0 traffic where my traders wtf?
So my trade script dont work? But toplist work and i get some traffic...

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori

well, I got a bunch of crappy trojan warnings when I went to your page..
bytverify
Exploit.mht
crap from afriz.biz and iframebiz.biz

but eitherway, you're using the same crappy fhg's that a billion other fake tgps are using...

Im using this fhg cause this gallereis have best quality babes galleries. But is it normal to have 0:48000 ratio its a lot of clicks...

Dalai lama · 11-27-2005, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Traffic is from traders, at bottom is toplist
I install this dialer yesterday to earn sth sorry i delete it now.

Make your toplist black, yellow on yellow doesnt read well ;)

mikeet · 11-27-2005, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Make your toplist black, yellow on yellow doesnt read well ;)

Or you can just change the color of the links to black and it would look alright.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchtye

Or you can just change the color of the links to black and it would look alright.

Its no problem i think but colors of links have any connection with my ratio?

mikeet · 11-27-2005, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Its no problem i think but colors of links have any connection with my ratio?

Yes, if your text links are hard to read your viewers wont see or click them

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 07:53 AM

I check tha my productive is arount 100-110% not good... Maybe people dont like to click to my thumbs? Several months ago i had 300-600% lol

Marcin978 · 11-27-2005, 08:01 AM

your traders are hittbotters with trojans

Marcin978 · 11-27-2005, 08:03 AM

dont you see that? your few first traders are sites from the same hitbotter

lazycash · 11-27-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Im using this fhg cause this gallereis have best quality babes galleries. But is it normal to have 0:48000 ratio its a lot of clicks...

Oh yes, very normal ratio, you need to get to 100,000 clicks before you usually see your first sale.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcin978

dont you see that? your few first traders are sites from the same hitbotter

How do u want there are hitbotters?
I cant check it cause when i login to my ttt admin panel i dont see any traders

Hey but if they will be hitbotters i will have smaller than 100% productive like 20%?

V_RocKs · 11-27-2005, 08:13 AM

#1 Your traders are 100% bullshit hitbotting fags... So you will never earn money because these hits are not humans, they are just computer programs that come in and click some shit and then close the connection. You need to find real trading partners.

Also view the source of the pages to your top traders. The majority all have the same code. Which tells you this is all 1 person and really pushes you towards a hitbotting Russian scumbag.

#2 You have 2 versions of TTT installed. The one that seems to be controlling your website can be found here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/tttadmin/ and you have another version here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/cgi-bin/ttt-admin

I could be wrong and it can be the other way around... But the admin you are entering and the one that is running your website are not the same one...

#3 A general niche website is very hard to grow. Think about what YOU like and make a website based on that. Or just go with the money... Trannies...

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

#1 Your traders are 100% bullshit hitbotting fags... So you will never earn money because these hits are not humans, they are just computer programs that come in and click some shit and then close the connection. You need to find real trading partners.

Also view the source of the pages to your top traders. The majority all have the same code. Which tells you this is all 1 person and really pushes you towards a hitbotting Russian scumbag.

#2 You have 2 versions of TTT installed. The one that seems to be controlling your website can be found here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/tttadmin/ and you have another version here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/cgi-bin/ttt-admin

I could be wrong and it can be the other way around... But the admin you are entering and the one that is running your website are not the same one...

#3 A general niche website is very hard to grow. Think about what YOU like and make a website based on that. Or just go with the money... Trannies...

But comutthumbs habe hitbotter protector ttt script have too i think why it dont detect?

Thanks for this link now i can login and i see exactly 10 tgps but this tgps generate clicks 60-80% producivity?? Hitbots can make clicks too?
Every site generate 400 hits in 24 hours, so all my traffic si generate by hitbots??

Hitbots can too click in fhg to banners? Cause i get average 300-500 uniq daily clicks to my sponsors...

Mustapha · 11-27-2005, 08:19 AM

when I enter this site I got some toolbar instaled "coolwebsiate" or something like this...

mikeet · 11-27-2005, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustapha

when I enter this site I got some toolbar instaled "coolwebsiate" or something like this...

Dude, you should always be using a top notch anti-virus program. I wouldnt surf without one

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchtye

Dude, you should always be using a top notch anti-virus program. I wouldnt surf without one

Now my tgp shoutl be completely clean when i enter my site dont get any trojans and other reports from my antivirus.

V_RocKs · 11-27-2005, 08:35 AM

Yes, hitbots can click banners, FHG's and trade links. The hitbotting technology in TTT and Comus is from years ago. Back then hitbots might come in and click on 20 links like they do now, but back then they clicked them within miliseconds of eachother. This is what that technology relied on. Now hitbots behave like humans. Click a link, wait 5 seconds, click another and wait 8 second, click another and wait 20.. so on.. so forth... They look JUST LIKE A HUMAN CLICK and even sometimes will click your trades to look like productive traffic when in fact they are just bullshit.

Now you just need to know who your trades are and set the settings in TTT to not allow auto signups.

mikeet · 11-27-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Now my tgp shoutl be completely clean when i enter my site dont get any trojans and other reports from my antivirus.

Thats good bro, just keep that shit outta there and you'll be fine.

digifan · 11-27-2005, 08:42 AM

Hm.. not sure if it is only me but it loads a bit slow here.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Yes, hitbots can click banners, FHG's and trade links. The hitbotting technology in TTT and Comus is from years ago. Back then hitbots might come in and click on 20 links like they do now, but back then they clicked them within miliseconds of eachother. This is what that technology relied on. Now hitbots behave like humans. Click a link, wait 5 seconds, click another and wait 8 second, click another and wait 20.. so on.. so forth... They look JUST LIKE A HUMAN CLICK and even sometimes will click your trades to look like productive traffic when in fact they are just bullshit.

Now you just need to know who your trades are and set the settings in TTT to not allow auto signups.

Wow dotn know that hitbots can do it... Maybe beter to change to at3 script?

V_RocKs · 11-27-2005, 08:54 AM

The script you use will NEVER catch or do anything to hitbots... You just have to use your brain. Stop allowing auto--trade signups. Hitbotters love these and have scripts especially written to signup 20 sites all at once. When you look at the clicks an individual site is sending it is easy to see that the hits are to evenly dispersed. As in 100 surfers will click 95% of the time on galleries. Hitbots will click evenly the links on your site. If you have 5% of links as ads, 20% as trade links and 75% galleries, then that is what they will click too. So a human is 95% or greater to galleries and a hitbot is 80% or less.

Also you will NEVER grow traffic with installers and dialers and bullshit. When you see a site and it has 100,000 hits a day and installs bullshit on the surfers, it is because he is a hitbotter himself. So he used fucked up methods to get that traffic. Unless you are going to devote your time and money to learning hitbotting techiniques and stay up on what is most successful in installing itself on victims computers, then you have no business trading with these guys or installing shit yourself.

You need to cancel these trades... You are thinking wow... that would kill my site. Dude, your site IS DEAD and never had a fucking heart beat. After 6 months and no sales it is pretty obvious you never really did have a site with traffic to begin with. Now you need to start over and do it the proper way.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

The script you use will NEVER catch or do anything to hitbots... You just have to use your brain. Stop allowing auto--trade signups. Hitbotters love these and have scripts especially written to signup 20 sites all at once. When you look at the clicks an individual site is sending it is easy to see that the hits are to evenly dispersed. As in 100 surfers will click 95% of the time on galleries. Hitbots will click evenly the links on your site. If you have 5% of links as ads, 20% as trade links and 75% galleries, then that is what they will click too. So a human is 95% or greater to galleries and a hitbot is 80% or less.

Also you will NEVER grow traffic with installers and dialers and bullshit. When you see a site and it has 100,000 hits a day and installs bullshit on the surfers, it is because he is a hitbotter himself. So he used fucked up methods to get that traffic. Unless you are going to devote your time and money to learning hitbotting techiniques and stay up on what is most successful in installing itself on victims computers, then you have no business trading with these guys or installing shit yourself.

You need to cancel these trades... You are thinking wow... that would kill my site. Dude, your site IS DEAD and never had a fucking heart beat. After 6 months and no sales it is pretty obvious you never really did have a site with traffic to begin with. Now you need to start over and do it the proper way.

How to stop allowing auto trade signups in ttt?

mikeet · 11-27-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

How to stop allowing auto trade signups in ttt?

Should be something in the script for that. I dont use ttt, but look around, you'll find it.

V_RocKs · 11-27-2005, 09:50 AM

Settings: (at the bottom) Allow New Signups, set to off

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 10:05 AM

Signup Page Status: Enabled-Disabled new trades is it this?

bobby666 · 11-27-2005, 11:10 AM

must say i like your design, looks great

i am a new in tgb design and am running my boot fetish site
http://www.stiefelparadies.de.gg

as site is new i have average 200 visits a day,but dollars4babes signups happen at least 1-2 a week

not much i know but i am working .....

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666

must say i like your design, looks great

i am a new in tgb design and am running my boot fetish site
http://www.stiefelparadies.de.gg

as site is new i have average 200 visits a day,but dollars4babes signups happen at least 1-2 a week

not much i know but i am working .....

It's great, what ratio do u have?

Radiate · 11-27-2005, 12:14 PM

I like your tgp, nice design

it takes a lot of time and effort to learn about trades and running a tgp, I'm sure you'll get it sorted soon

fetishblog · 11-27-2005, 12:15 PM

Just for the record, I'm using Firefox 1.5 and I didn't get any of those stupid warnings that you IE losers, I mean users, got.

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

Just for the record, I'm using Firefox 1.5 and I didn't get any of those stupid warnings that you IE losers, I mean users, got.

Yes i too using firefox and dont know that ie have some problems..

tedwinters · 11-27-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog

Just for the record, I'm using Firefox 1.5 and I didn't get any of those stupid warnings that you IE losers, I mean users, got.

heh, except I was using firefox 1.5RC3 too and saw it...

bobby666 · 11-27-2005, 03:46 PM

@lucas131

my dollars4babesratio is 1:339

Violetta · 11-27-2005, 03:46 PM

0:48.000 is the worst ratio I have ever heard of. But if its all bots, it makes sense! At least you've got a lot of good tips, so keep working on it! You learn something new everyday!

lucas131 · 11-27-2005, 05:50 PM

Yes i learn a lot thanks for your posts!

11-27-2005, 06:55 AM	#4
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11-27-2005, 12:14 PM	#35
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11-27-2005, 12:15 PM	#36
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11-27-2005, 03:46 PM	#40
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	0:48.000 is the worst ratio I have ever heard of. But if its all bots, it makes sense! At least you've got a lot of good tips, so keep working on it! You learn something new everyday! __________________ M&A Queen

11-27-2005, 06:00 AM	#1
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	My first TGP http://www.hollygalleries.com itr my first tgp i but some traffic 404 pages free hostings and i trade. I have stable 3500-4000 uniq daily. I have over 1000 galleries database only fhg. Everything would be ok but i dont earn any cent for this TGP. This TG:P have some traffic from over 7 months. Maybe traffic is very unproductive or i must have over 10k to make some money or more? But its very very strange for me in sponsor twistys i get 17536 wow its a lot, but no sales! Average ratio is 1:600 maybe for fhg can be higher but how many clicks should i have to make one sale? :/ I get average today 130-160 clicks daily. In 2 sponsor that i use most fhg is Dollars4Babes i get at all: 29070, daily 250-300 daily and no sales too. In glamoursgone bad, mediumpimpin sponsor i get at all: 1310 unq clicks, no sales. So its at all great ratio about 0:48000 its bad What do i wrong that my tgp dont earn?

11-27-2005, 06:04 AM	#2
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	Hitbots don't buy memberships. Where's your traffic coming from? __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

11-27-2005, 06:19 AM	#3
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	well, I got a bunch of crappy trojan warnings when I went to your page.. bytverify Exploit.mht crap from afriz.biz and iframebiz.biz but eitherway, you're using the same crappy fhg's that a billion other fake tgps are using...

11-27-2005, 07:06 AM	#6
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	Traffic is from traders, at bottom is toplist I install this dialer yesterday to earn sth sorry i delete it now.

11-27-2005, 07:09 AM	#8
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	Another strange thing i have ttt script and when i login i see onyl site testing.com and with 0 traffic where my traders wtf? So my trade script dont work? But toplist work and i get some traffic...

11-27-2005, 07:53 AM	#14
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	I check tha my productive is arount 100-110% not good... Maybe people dont like to click to my thumbs? Several months ago i had 300-600% lol

11-27-2005, 08:01 AM	#15
Marcin978 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 392	your traders are hittbotters with trojans

11-27-2005, 08:03 AM	#16
Marcin978 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 392	dont you see that? your few first traders are sites from the same hitbotter

11-27-2005, 08:13 AM	#19
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	#1 Your traders are 100% bullshit hitbotting fags... So you will never earn money because these hits are not humans, they are just computer programs that come in and click some shit and then close the connection. You need to find real trading partners. Also view the source of the pages to your top traders. The majority all have the same code. Which tells you this is all 1 person and really pushes you towards a hitbotting Russian scumbag. #2 You have 2 versions of TTT installed. The one that seems to be controlling your website can be found here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/tttadmin/ and you have another version here: http://www.hollygalleries.com/cgi-bin/ttt-admin I could be wrong and it can be the other way around... But the admin you are entering and the one that is running your website are not the same one... #3 A general niche website is very hard to grow. Think about what YOU like and make a website based on that. Or just go with the money... Trannies...

11-27-2005, 08:19 AM	#21
Mustapha Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 324	when I enter this site I got some toolbar instaled "coolwebsiate" or something like this...

11-27-2005, 08:35 AM	#24
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Yes, hitbots can click banners, FHG's and trade links. The hitbotting technology in TTT and Comus is from years ago. Back then hitbots might come in and click on 20 links like they do now, but back then they clicked them within miliseconds of eachother. This is what that technology relied on. Now hitbots behave like humans. Click a link, wait 5 seconds, click another and wait 8 second, click another and wait 20.. so on.. so forth... They look JUST LIKE A HUMAN CLICK and even sometimes will click your trades to look like productive traffic when in fact they are just bullshit. Now you just need to know who your trades are and set the settings in TTT to not allow auto signups.

11-27-2005, 08:54 AM	#28
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	The script you use will NEVER catch or do anything to hitbots... You just have to use your brain. Stop allowing auto--trade signups. Hitbotters love these and have scripts especially written to signup 20 sites all at once. When you look at the clicks an individual site is sending it is easy to see that the hits are to evenly dispersed. As in 100 surfers will click 95% of the time on galleries. Hitbots will click evenly the links on your site. If you have 5% of links as ads, 20% as trade links and 75% galleries, then that is what they will click too. So a human is 95% or greater to galleries and a hitbot is 80% or less. Also you will NEVER grow traffic with installers and dialers and bullshit. When you see a site and it has 100,000 hits a day and installs bullshit on the surfers, it is because he is a hitbotter himself. So he used fucked up methods to get that traffic. Unless you are going to devote your time and money to learning hitbotting techiniques and stay up on what is most successful in installing itself on victims computers, then you have no business trading with these guys or installing shit yourself. You need to cancel these trades... You are thinking wow... that would kill my site. Dude, your site IS DEAD and never had a fucking heart beat. After 6 months and no sales it is pretty obvious you never really did have a site with traffic to begin with. Now you need to start over and do it the proper way.

11-27-2005, 09:50 AM	#31
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Settings: (at the bottom) Allow New Signups, set to off

11-27-2005, 10:05 AM	#32
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	Signup Page Status: Enabled-Disabled new trades is it this?

11-27-2005, 11:10 AM	#33
bobby666 boots are my religion Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Heart of europe Posts: 21,765	must say i like your design, looks great i am a new in tgb design and am running my boot fetish site http://www.stiefelparadies.de.gg as site is new i have average 200 visits a day,but dollars4babes signups happen at least 1-2 a week not much i know but i am working .....

11-27-2005, 05:50 PM	#41
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	Yes i learn a lot thanks for your posts!