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Myst · 11-24-2005, 10:39 PM

I need to be able to hit hotmail, yahoo, etc boxes.. Probably ~150,000 emails need to be sent out

Rob · 11-24-2005, 10:42 PM

Legal Spamming = Oxymoron.

chadglni · 11-24-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Legal Spamming = Oxymoron.

Shhhhh, let the feds tell him that.

Myst · 11-24-2005, 10:44 PM

fair enough
legal mass mailing

Myst · 11-24-2005, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Shhhhh, let the feds tell him that.

the canadian feds are scary

JoeMeca · 11-24-2005, 10:45 PM

lol assacademy.com

lazycash · 11-24-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Legal Spamming = moron.

Well said

ronbotx · 11-24-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

I need to be able to hit hotmail, yahoo, etc boxes.. Probably ~150,000 emails need to be sent out

Legal.... as in fully CAN_SPAM compliant...yea right.

In the other case, why not just join the felons, spammers, scammers, phishers, proxy thieves, and trojan spreaders at our beloved WebAir?

chadglni · 11-24-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

the canadian feds are scary

Yawn, I can tell you exactly how it works and why you can be extradited but there is no "legal" in spam.

Rob · 11-24-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

fair enough
legal mass mailing

You can purchase all sorts of mass mailers for legal purposes like sending newsletters and so forth.

I use Campaign Enterprise by Arial Software.

http://www.arialsoftware.com/enterprise.htm

Dirty F · 11-24-2005, 10:48 PM

Goddamn spammers. I received like 500 junk mails in a few days.

BlackCrayon · 11-24-2005, 10:49 PM

you should of just said can spam compliant mailing.

Myst · 11-24-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you should of just said can spam compliant mailing.

i should have
silly antis

xclusive · 11-24-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Goddamn spammers. I received like 500 junk mails in a few days.

I get that every day and I have filters set up

Dirty F · 11-24-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

I get that every day and I have filters set up

Well i have a very good filter but that doesnt mean i have to download them all.

chowda · 11-24-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Well i have a very good filter but that doesnt mean i have to download them all.

Forward to gmail. They clean so much crap, its unbelieveable.

Odin · 11-24-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Goddamn spammers. I received like 500 junk mails in a few days.

You have to take responsibility for your own email. If you receive 500 junk emails into your inbox daily it is noones fault but your own.

BOSS1 · 11-24-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

I need to be able to hit hotmail, yahoo, etc boxes.. Probably ~150,000 emails need to be sent out

I got the soft how long do u need it for?

pornguy · 11-24-2005, 11:17 PM

Even with the canspam compliant, you could get nailed.

Myst · 11-24-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Even with the canspam compliant, you could get nailed.

canadian

Odin · 11-24-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Even with the canspam compliant, you could get nailed.

yeah watch out Myst. legitimately mailing 150,000 people is a direct ticket to jail

Are these people for real? People on here think he is going to get extradited and jailed in the US for emailing 150k optin users. lol

Kard63 · 11-24-2005, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Legal.... as in fully CAN_SPAM compliant...yea right.

In the other case, why not just join the felons, spammers, scammers, phishers, proxy thieves, and trojan spreaders at our beloved WebAir?

I thought webair hated spammers ???

Rob · 11-24-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

I thought webair hated spammers ???

They do. Like any other hosting company in the free world.

Myst · 11-25-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

I thought webair hated spammers ???

i heard webair sucks

phonesex · 11-25-2005, 12:30 AM

dude, do whatever the fuck you think is right. Ok?

Myst · 11-26-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by phonesex

dude, do whatever the fuck you think is right. Ok?

bump bump

Webby · 11-26-2005, 01:02 AM

Damn... ya can't find fuck all when you need it.

Anyone know where to get a killing knife? I need to do some legal serial killing.

Dagwolf · 11-26-2005, 01:10 AM

I wonder where all my spam comes from, and how much is from GFYers. But think I think, I'll never know anyway. So I go see Uncle Caveman.

QuaWee · 11-26-2005, 09:08 AM

bump for you

Wizzo · 11-26-2005, 09:20 AM

I takes more than just a clean server to get into hotmail, yahoo and etc... You must be whitelisted.

haig · 11-26-2005, 09:25 AM

Legality... Bulshit... i don't care about it...

chowda · 11-26-2005, 09:35 AM

wouldnt any hosting take it as long as u can show its truly opt-in ?

Manowar · 11-26-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Legal Spamming = Oxymoron.

HollywoodChris · 11-26-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chowda

wouldnt any hosting take it as long as u can show its truly opt-in ?

No, most hosting companies shy away from it no matter if it is Legal or not.
If you can prove they opted into the email and are of age to receive adult mail and comply to the can spam act there should be no issues... Hosting companies want nothing to do with it and I dont blame them. Most people dont have the requirements and thats a lot of trust to put into someone when your business is riding on it.

-Cs

chadglni · 11-26-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HollywoodChris

No, most hosting companies shy away from it no matter if it is Legal or not.
If you can prove they opted into the email and are of age to receive adult mail and comply to the can spam act there should be no issues... Hosting companies want nothing to do with it and I dont blame them. Most people dont have the requirements and thats a lot of trust to put into someone when your business is riding on it.

-Cs

Familiar with adult hosts much?

Myst · 11-26-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

I takes more than just a clean server to get into hotmail, yahoo and etc... You must be whitelisted.

go on

elitetec · 11-26-2005, 02:55 PM

if you wanna do legal spam you need 150 people and tell each one to create a chain letter over aol everyday to 1000 people and you would have 150,000 mails sent out which is highly unlikely

BlackCrayon · 11-27-2005, 02:41 PM

bottom line: if the list is yours (the surfers entered their emails on your site), you shouldn't have much problem finding a place to host it. make sure you tell them you do double optin (although make sure you actually do) and honor removes daily. if spamhaus blacklists you, you should be able to get off the list if you can prove the people signed up via your site.

spamhaus should be shut down tho, they blacklist so many people needlessly, from real optin emails to compliant emails, something needs to be done about them.

anyways, if you bought this list from someone else and are sending unreleated offers, you better get some kind of direct solution with new ips daily.

Juicy D. Links · 11-27-2005, 02:47 PM

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Zakarian · 06-26-2006, 06:07 AM

As you all know by now, mass e-mailing is dangerous in light of the CanSpam Act. In 2005, 4 big players were sued by the DOJ and paid for it as well as entering into onerous settlement orders.

The next 4 DOJ targets, including Cyberheat and Impulse Media, did not surrender so easily. Under the expert representation by Robert Apgood, Esq. of AdultLaw.com, Cyberheat is fighting the DOJ tooth and nail. Like 2257, this law is being used to assualt the Adult Industry. Mr. Apgood and Cyberheat are making sure that the law is applied accurately and according to its terms, rather than those terms sought to be imposed by the DOJ.

Tom_PM · 06-26-2006, 06:16 AM

I thought Can Spam set legal definitions to seperate fully legal mass emails from illegal mass emails (ie: spam). Such as forged headers, lack of physical address, lack of working opt-out, lack of adult label (if adult).
?

Zakarian · 06-27-2006, 05:41 PM

PR Tom:

It technically does. However, the DOJ is trying to interpret it as a strict liability statute. This is what me, Mr. Apgood and Cyberheat are fighting.

marketsmart · 06-27-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Legal.... as in fully CAN_SPAM compliant...yea right.

In the other case, why not just join the felons, spammers, scammers, phishers, proxy thieves, and trojan spreaders at our beloved WebAir?

150k list... i dont think he is spamming.. yeah can-spam is so hard to abide by

your quick judgement to label anything related to mailing as spamming makes me giggle...

you sir, are a dumbass...

madawgz · 06-27-2006, 09:13 PM

to mail with, use Dark Mailer!

crockett · 06-27-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

the canadian feds are scary

Do they ride horses?

dRI-X · 06-27-2006, 11:38 PM

i think i should read this thread carefully...

Zakarian · 06-28-2006, 10:02 PM

CanSpam for now, is serious because the DOJ IS filing suits. Its not a scare. Its real. Mr. Apgood, myself and Cyberheat are doing something about it.

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11-27-2005, 02:41 PM	#38
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	bottom line: if the list is yours (the surfers entered their emails on your site), you shouldn't have much problem finding a place to host it. make sure you tell them you do double optin (although make sure you actually do) and honor removes daily. if spamhaus blacklists you, you should be able to get off the list if you can prove the people signed up via your site. spamhaus should be shut down tho, they blacklist so many people needlessly, from real optin emails to compliant emails, something needs to be done about them. anyways, if you bought this list from someone else and are sending unreleated offers, you better get some kind of direct solution with new ips daily. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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06-26-2006, 06:07 AM	#40
Zakarian Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 15	As you all know by now, mass e-mailing is dangerous in light of the CanSpam Act. In 2005, 4 big players were sued by the DOJ and paid for it as well as entering into onerous settlement orders. The next 4 DOJ targets, including Cyberheat and Impulse Media, did not surrender so easily. Under the expert representation by Robert Apgood, Esq. of AdultLaw.com, Cyberheat is fighting the DOJ tooth and nail. Like 2257, this law is being used to assualt the Adult Industry. Mr. Apgood and Cyberheat are making sure that the law is applied accurately and according to its terms, rather than those terms sought to be imposed by the DOJ. __________________ Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire 16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360 Lithia, FL 33547 (813) 571-2546 (FAX) (866) 259-1933 [email protected] AdultLaw.com

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06-27-2006, 05:41 PM	#42
Zakarian Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 15	PR Tom: It technically does. However, the DOJ is trying to interpret it as a strict liability statute. This is what me, Mr. Apgood and Cyberheat are fighting. __________________ Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire 16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360 Lithia, FL 33547 (813) 571-2546 (FAX) (866) 259-1933 [email protected] AdultLaw.com

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Zakarian Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 15	CanSpam for now, is serious because the DOJ IS filing suits. Its not a scare. Its real. Mr. Apgood, myself and Cyberheat are doing something about it. __________________ Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire 16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360 Lithia, FL 33547 (813) 571-2546 (FAX) (866) 259-1933 [email protected] AdultLaw.com