Bush or Hitler..Same Shit?

[phonesex]

[tony286]

no comparison

[StickyGreen]

how could they possibly be the same? where is the reasoning?

[pornstar2pac]

what an idiot

[Methodcash Rick]

Hot Lincoln..

[Scootermuze]

Nope... totally different... Bush doesn't have syph..

[Webby]

Originally Posted by phonesex

It was Hitler who predicted the US would take on the mantle of a revamped Fourth Reich.

Welcome!

[phonesex]

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

Hot Lincoln..

[bdld]

nowhere near the same, no comparison.

[crowkid]

Originally Posted by Webby

It was Hitler who predicted the US would take on the mantle of a revamped Fourth Reich.

Welcome!

World famous USA-HATER Webby with his spooky ideas/fantasies!





(now we're waiting for you to blame Jews for something....we're waiting come on be predictable!)

[Webby]

Originally Posted by bdld

nowhere near the same, no comparison.

Invading other countries on his own pretext.... internments without trial... limiting "freedoms" in his own country.... selling mass propaganda to con his own people.... using torture and giving permission to kill "as needed"... ad nausea...

Some call that democracy... others call it something else...

[PixeLs]

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

what an idiot

Yeah, no similarities at all. Besides, hitler was not stupid.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by crowkid

World famous USA-HATER Webby with his spooky ideas/fantasies!





(now we're waiting for you to blame Jews for something....we're waiting come on be predictable!)

I never claimed the US was gonna be the Fourth Reich - Hitler did.

And WTF makes you think I "hate the US"? Gimme a break! That's the typical spewage ya get from an idiot in heat.

[Antonio]

no comparison at all, Hitler butchered few million people, Bush only 100 000 or so

[crowkid]

Originally Posted by Antonio

no comparison at all, Hitler butchered few million people, Bush only 100 000 or so

Really? You mean Bush sent 100,000 people in concentration camps to be executed based on ethnicity? Man, I never knew that... You reading aljazeera.net? Such an informative site!

[Webby]

You notice the way idiots make a lot of assumptions and write their own version of whatever sounds the most stupid?

There is obviously this "need" in some folks :-)

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Really? You mean Bush sent 100,000 people in concentration camps to be executed based on ethnicity? Man, I never knew that... You reading aljazeera.net? Such an informative site!

estimated 100 000 INNOCENT people killed so far in Iraq, this might come as a news to you though, I wouldn't be surprised

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

You notice the way idiots make a lot of assumptions and write their own version of whatever sounds the most stupid?

There is obviously this "need" in some folks :-)

And you are a prime example...now aren't you foreign trash?

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

And you are a prime example...now aren't you foreign trash?

Welcome you old beer-marinated patriot!

No... you are the "foreign trash" - stuff that the US or any other place could do without.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Antonio

estimated 100 000 INNOCENT people killed so far in Iraq, this might come as a news to you though, I wouldn't be surprised

Or an estimated 30,000 killed (how innocent any of them were no one will ever know)...depending on what suits your agenda. How many of the 30,000/100,000 have been killed by "insurgents/foreign" fighters. Every day that passes more Iraq's are killed by "insurgents/foreign" fighters than are killed by coalition forces.

[Webby]

Here we go... more of "another view"! *lol*

Why don't ya just bomb a couple of nations as you suggested in previous threads and cure your mental problem?

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by theking

Or an estimated 30,000 killed (how innocent any of them were no one will ever know)...depending on what suits your agenda. How many of the 30,000/100,000 have been killed by "insurgents/foreign" fighters. Every day that passes more Iraq's are killed by "insurgents/foreign" fighters than are killed by coalition forces.

you're right about something here, every day 54 people get killed in Iraq, 18 of them by coalition forces

and yet again how many were killed daily before Bush went there? about zero I think

and please remind me what were all these people guilty of? Yes Saddam is guilty and should be hanged, I have no doubt about it, shouldn't Bush be the next in line?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

Here we go... more of "another view"! *lol*

Why don't ya just bomb a couple of nations as you suggested in previous threads and cure your mental problem?

Post the quote...ass wipe...if you can? Or maybe just make up a couple of nations and attribute it to me.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Antonio

estimated 100 000 INNOCENT people killed so far in Iraq, this might come as a news to you though, I wouldn't be surprised

The 100k figure is from several months ago (so it'll be more by now), and reflects the increase in deaths when compared to expected number of deaths had America not attacked.

So, you could say that America, in a way, bears responsibility for these deaths, but it the amount of responsibility isn't the same for all. Both "collateral damage" from bombings is included as well as deaths caused by insurgents/the resistance (the name depending on your point of view). Clearly, America bears much more responsibility for the former than for the latter.

[crowkid]

Originally Posted by Antonio

you're right about something here, every day 54 people get killed in Iraq, 18 of them by coalition forces

and yet again how many were killed daily before Bush went there? about zero I think

and please remind me what were all these people guilty of? Yes Saddam is guilty and should be hanged, I have no doubt about it, shouldn't Bush be the next in line?

Yes, listen to Antonio folks, Iraq was a peaceful Mideast paradise before the coalition forces came, children were picking candy from candy trees, and the sun was shining! No citizens were killed or taken to rape rooms and torture chambers, Ok? Thank you

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Antonio

you're right about something here, every day 54 people get killed in Iraq, 18 of them by coalition forces

and yet again how many were killed daily before Bush went there? about zero I think

and please remind me what were all these people guilty of? Yes Saddam is guilty and should be hanged, I have no doubt about it, shouldn't Bush be the next in line?

http://www.gbn.com/ArticleDisplaySer...=2400&msp=1242

Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis. Another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam's needless war with Iran. Coldly taken as a daily average for the 24 years of Saddam's reign, these numbers give us a horrifying picture of between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam's 8,000-odd days in power.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

Post the quote...ass wipe...if you can? Or maybe just make up a couple of nations and attribute it to me.

Fucked if I can be bothered wading thru all your spewage about "how it should be"

Your brain so marinated in booze you can't remember discussing how any of your "ememies of the state" need to be nuked and in particular to Asian/Oriental countries?

Anyways ... have another on me Don't mind if I leave ya to it do ya?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Antonio

you're right about something here, every day 54 people get killed in Iraq, 18 of them by coalition forces

and yet again how many were killed daily before Bush went there? about zero I think

and please remind me what were all these people guilty of? Yes Saddam is guilty and should be hanged, I have no doubt about it, shouldn't Bush be the next in line?

Hmm...Saddam killed an estimated 3,000,000 with his two wars against his neighbors and the slaughter of several hundreds of thousands of his own people. Even if you accept the 100,000 figure since the invasion the coalition forces have a way to go to catch up with his record. Think we can break it?

"Civilians" are most often called "innocent" but in general militants/militaries cannot fight without the support of civilians...from providing shit paper to weapons...from hiding to feeding...housing...and assisting. Unlike the 2nd World War...the Korean and Vietnam wars to a lesser extent...civilians are not being targeted by coalition forces...but are most certainly considered to be exceptable collateral damage.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Yes, listen to Antonio folks, Iraq was a peaceful Mideast paradise before the coalition forces came, children were picking candy from candy trees, and the sun was shining! No citizens were killed or taken to rape rooms and torture chambers, Ok? Thank you

Agreed, that's why Saddam should be hanged as I said (and everybody else responsible for the killings, torture etc), but does that justify the war and the death of 30 000 civilians?

[adultchica]

hahaha the tin foil hat guy. Anyways, Bush sucks but damn even I have to say he's no Hitler. Hitler was on a whole new kind of evil.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Yes, listen to Antonio folks, Iraq was a peaceful Mideast paradise before the coalition forces came, children were picking candy from candy trees, and the sun was shining! No citizens were killed or taken to rape rooms and torture chambers, Ok? Thank you

Learn who you sleep with before uttering more crap that purports to be a defense of... presumably the US.

Who sat with Saddam in a hotel room in London for almost a year planning to kill ministers in the Iranian govt?

Who put Saddam into power and provided arms to start a war against Iran?

Sheesh.. it's no surprise Iranians don't have a love affair with the US... OR.. Let's get it right in case ya go off the deviant end again - they despise your government, not the country or people like you are taught.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

Who put Saddam into power and provided arms to start a war against Iran?

The US did not put Saddam in power and the US did not ever supply Iraq with arms (other than a handful of rotary wing aircraft...not gunships... and an indrect sale of some cluster bombs). The Russians were the primary supplier of arms to Iraq with the French and Germans in a lesser role.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

they despise your government, not the country or people like you are taught.

Hmm...yet it is the people that elect our members of government...every two years in the House...every six years in the Senate...and every four years...in the Executive. My question has always been how do you "despise" the government and not "despise" the people that duly elect the members of government every few years.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by theking

"Civilians" are most often called "innocent" but in general militants/militaries cannot fight without the support of civilians...from providing shit paper to weapons...from hiding to feeding...housing...and assisting.

It scares me that someone can even think like this when confronted with the issue of civilian casualties.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by theking

...now aren't you foreign trash?

You always crack me up when you say this given the US was built by "foreign trash", and your ancestors would have been that same "foreign trash"... which.. would make you just the "trash" part wouldn't it?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Tempest

You always crack me up when you say this given the US was built by "foreign trash", and your ancestors would have been that same "foreign trash"... which.. would make you just the "trash" part wouldn't it?

You do not understand my usage of the term "foreign trash"...now do you...even though it has been explained multiple times by me and others. Webby is foreign trash...as is directfiesta and and about a dozen others...posting on this board.

[theking]

Originally Posted by punkworld

It scares me that someone can even think like this when confronted with the issue of civilian casualties.

Well...if you were a student of war as I have been...you would learn that in virtually every one of the more than 14,000 recorded "wars
"...civilians were direct targets. This applied big time in the Second World War...by all combatants and to a lesser extent in the Korean and Vietnam conflicts. In the Iraqi conflict civilians are not being directly targeted other than by the "insurgents/foreign fighters".

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

You do not understand my usage of the term "foreign trash"...now do you...even though it has been explained multiple times by me and others. Webby is foreign trash...as is directfiesta and and about a dozen others...posting on this board.

You still rolling on talking crap?

Get a life for shit's sake - grow up and at least try to appear like an adult - even if ya are marinated in booze and a total nutcase .

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

Well...if you were a student of war as I have been...

Classic!!!!

[phonesex]

interesting...

[quantum-x]

No, hitler was smart, and could articulate.

[Rochard]

So far Bush hasn't killed hundreds of thousands of people.

And Hilter was much smarter.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by theking

The US did not put Saddam in power and the US did not ever supply Iraq with arms (other than a handful of rotary wing aircraft...not gunships... and an indrect sale of some cluster bombs). The Russians were the primary supplier of arms to Iraq with the French and Germans in a lesser role.

Bud - you need to go learn some real history instead of learning your rheotric from Fox - the US most certainly did put him in power in a coalition with the UK - and it was done for no other reason than to go against Iran
Who the fuck do you think gave him the chemical weapons that he used against "his own people" (I love this line - these people were the idiots he was fighting against) - the US supplied every weapon of mass destruction he owned - go read the UN report - it details every shipment of chemical weapon we shipped to him to fight against Iran.
See - if you get rid of the BS and go right to the official sources - you sometimes can learn a thing or two instead of listening to the BS spouted here and on the media

[emthree]

Funny but a bit off, lol.

[xclusive]

Not the same at all no matter how mush I hate Bush

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by theking

Well...if you were a student of war as I have been...you would learn that in virtually every one of the more than 14,000 recorded "wars
"...civilians were direct targets. This applied big time in the Second World War...by all combatants and to a lesser extent in the Korean and Vietnam conflicts. In the Iraqi conflict civilians are not being directly targeted other than by the "insurgents/foreign fighters".

Civilians not being specifically targetted does not make their deaths any less tragic, nor do practices of past wars.

When innocents die, the right response is not "well, chances are they were assholes anyway", nor is it "well, in the past, everyone killed them", nor is it even "it's unintended but unavoidable collateral damage". When talking about human lives being lost, one should first and foremost acknowledge the tragedy of it.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Bud - you need to go learn some real history instead of learning your rheotric from Fox - the US most certainly did put him in power in a coalition with the UK - and it was done for no other reason than to go against Iran
Who the fuck do you think gave him the chemical weapons that he used against "his own people" (I love this line - these people were the idiots he was fighting against) - the US supplied every weapon of mass destruction he owned - go read the UN report - it details every shipment of chemical weapon we shipped to him to fight against Iran.
See - if you get rid of the BS and go right to the official sources - you sometimes can learn a thing or two instead of listening to the BS spouted here and on the media

You can espouse BS all you want...but the facts are that the US did not put Saddam in power...did not sell any weapons of any type to Iraq other than a handfull of rotary wing aircraft and the indirect sale of some cluster bombs. The US government most certainly never sold a single weapon of mass destruction to Iraq. American private enterprise did sell dual use materials that the Iraqi's weaponized. When the US government learned that the Iraq's were weaponizing weapons from dual use materials...the ordered was issued to private enterprise to cease and desist...even then a few companies continued to sell dual use materials and heads rolled when this was discovered.

[Cogitator]

theking: you are spewing nonsense.

[theking]

Originally Posted by punkworld

Civilians not being specifically targetted does not make their deaths any less tragic, nor do practices of past wars.

When innocents die, the right response is not "well, chances are they were assholes anyway", nor is it "well, in the past, everyone killed them", nor is it even "it's unintended but unavoidable collateral damage". When talking about human lives being lost, one should first and foremost acknowledge the tragedy of it.

In Vietnam and other wars ten year olds (even younger) have given aide to the armed militant and have even been armed militants themselves. They are the enemy and self preservation dictates that they be killed. Tragic yes...reread the above.

It is tragic...but the human animal reigns and the innocent among the human animals are far and few in between...tragedy will exist until the human animal is exterminated...and the history of the world indicates that it will be.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Linkster

"his own people" (I love this line - these people were the idiots he was fighting against)

Your post seriously pissed me off, but for now I'll blame the offensive nature of what you said on ignorance rather that bad intentions.

Saddam Hussein killed thousands of people of Iraq's Kurdish minority. The people he killed were for the most part innocent, oppressed people whose only fault was being born in the wrong part of Iraq.