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Anyone here who speaks crazytalk and wants to translate? :1orglaugh

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"I just want to be able to say 'make it like GFY except with this logo' and then pay for it when it's done." - Dig420 2005.

OMG.

It's plane english dude, stop smokin so many buds.
It is your own words. Punk ass lookin for hand outs and shit.

You go playa.

what are your three boards?

I want to see them so I can learn :winkwink:

Ya wouldnt learn shit.
It is stuff ya do not understand. If ya had actual skills ya could do them yerself :1orglaugh

Anyways have a nice evening.

dig has always paid me. He even listens to me bitch about little petty shit, haha. Oh, and his tours rock.

dig why are you even messing with this goon? Ahaha.

oh come ON man... I want to sit at the feet of the master, the Great Alien so that I can learn how to be a true player in this biz. Won't you teach me? All this money... it just doesn't bring me any satisfaction. I want to learn the ALIEN way of knowing absolutely everything there is, ever was or ever will be to know about the adult industry, even if, like you, I am scorned by the masses and never make a dime.

As long as I can proclaim my greatness on a message board it doesn't really matter if I make any money right?

I dunno. Killing time lol

He's pretty amusing, don't you think?

as much as i disagree with Dig420 and his politics, i have been in this biz since 97 and never heard anyone say one bad thing about how he does business.

alien is competing against himself for "biggest gfy idiot ever". its a tough race and some tough competition and he is giving it his all.

Sexeducation could have given him a run for his money but he didn't have the staying power. It's Alien in a walk.

Hey I am not saying how bad his business is, or how he handles it, but maybe comming onto a board and asking people to volunteer some work without pay until he is satisfied just lacks some class IMHO.

Each to there own I suppose, I just feel sorry for the folks that fall for that kinda shit. So that makes two reasons why I came in this thread.

1: I like new webmaster's I wish the best for em and when I see some fucken tard come along and ask em for free labor and unspecified payment on completion, it is just not cool.

2: Dig420 is on my unfriendly list attacking me first and as usual denies it, acts all surprised and shit. Typical.

I just giving some love back to em. What I got to say wont stop some poor kid from jumping on the opportunity to find a little something to do however maybe some will think about I said reasonably. If not they deserved to get fried, just do not come whinning to me, all I will say is "I told ya so".

:1orglaugh

You're right dig, this is amusing. I almost feel bad about his reading comprehension problems. I really hope his wife reads over all insurance policies, could end up with quite the surprise if he gets in an accident.

Awright Sly.

Go ahead set me up a 5 servers, with a redundant cluster.
I expect back ups on a weekly basis.

I need PHP4, PERL and root access, and of course a MYSQL DB, Secure FTP ports and over 30 Gigabits of transfer weekly. I need live tech support 24/7 and keys to the NOC.
If I am more than 3 hops to China from LA you will have to find a way to fix that.

I will pay ya when I am happy.

Is that how ya do business?

You're comparing apples to oranges.

I see your point about requiring 50% upfront. And you're right, it is typical designer procedure anymore. However, this whole argument is based off of a very simple statement made by dig. It had absolutely no details whatsoever. He simply said "I just want somebody to do the job and I'll pay them for the work." Very simple statement. People say it ALL the time. I know I do, and so do many others.

You're making a big deal out of nothing because of past "bouts" with dig, only you're making yourself look absolutely ridiculous in the process, as usual.

Oh OK, then he is just stupid and couldnt think of any better way to phrase it.

LOL.

Awright.

I will buy that for a dollar.

You're the only person who didn't understand what he said.

Who's the stupid one?

:-)

Oh, and for the record, I pay people AFTER they complete a project for me. I have been doing it that way for years and have yet to be scammed or scam anyone. So in essence, I say "you build and I'll pay you for it" on a daily basis. Nobody has ever had a problem with that.

I don't pay designers upfront either. Never a problem.

Hmm...

If I'M stupid, why are YOU the one that's broke?

Do you have a dollar? :1orglaugh

hey what are your message boards? I want to post there and make sure everyone acknowledges the genius that is Alien.

Sooooo Clueless.

Good night dig...

I will if they're a known quantity. At least half.

I just paid supercharged to do a design for fetishmail.com, xxxhost.com and cuckolds.com. I'm also paying bluedesign to do an alternate design on cuckolds.com for my webmasters because my staff designer who used to run exxxtremedesign.com is busy redoing member areas for the existing sites. I need the guy to do the message boards because my personnel resources are starting to get stretched pretty thin.

What are YOU working on lately Alien?

where are you going? Show us your MOST SUCCESSFUL site. I think we all can benefit from the experience.

No he just wants finished work before he pays. If you work a 9-5 job do you get paid in advance for two weeks and then work them.

Do your sponsors send you a check and then have you send sales.

Dont be a fucking moron.

man I just scam everybody else mercilessly, but I sure can't get one by the great ALIENQ!

you're too smart for the likes of me :thumbsup

Nice looking site, good colors :)

I was VERY impressed with that site Todd. Inspired, even... can't believe I haven't seen it before. Amazing what you miss when you're straight ;)

As a professional, that's my policy as well. If the client isn't happy, then the job isn't done. The other professionals here understand that.

I'll do the work for free to try to offset some of the bullshit you've gotten over what was, in fact, a reasonable request.

Well of course, client got to be happy, but the client does not get shit until 1/2 is deposited. Thats just smart policy, maybe you have not been burned enough to make the decision yourself...

Go back to page one, take a look read...

Nothing about such terms. What he said is there which

Translates to: "Just do it and when he is happy ya will get paid."

Now ya can approach a real designer and most good programmers and they will laugh you out the door.

Again each there own, I just hate seeing people with skill's get used up.

Shrug. I've done work (and continue to do work) for a lot of large programs, and don't agree with your assessment of "smart policy" or who will laugh who "out the door."

I've tried to say it in a respectful manner, but you're not leaving me much choice -- I consider you to be a child trapped in a high post count. Your reputation hits both extremes: some people love you, and a lot of people think you're a putz. To me (and this is my opinion, nothing more), you're a hack with little skill in design and almost no skills with people. If you want to get right down to it, I cringe to even read your spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It's like you don't even TRY.

One thing I *do* know: you have an entirely inflated sense of self. For the better part of last year, our office wall had your flameout with Leslie at Vivid. That was solid gold. Classic! I can't respect anything you do or say after the unprofessional way you conducted yourself in that thread. Apparently, you just keep rolling with the absurd bullshit. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I guess.

There's a time for games, there's a time for joking around, and there's a time for conducting business. Successful people separate the two.

My offer to do this free still stands, and it's only because you ripped so hard into a guy you had no business ripping.

I appreciate it Edge, but don't worry about Alien ripping hard into me. It's more like being gummed than being bitten lol

I'm going to try to get the same person to do it that did the bisexual.com site because what I want is very close to what they've done there, but if I can't get her I'll look you up, and you won't have to do it for free ;)

Isn't that Vivid thread a classic? hahahahah

Yes, the Vivid thread does give me a chuckle and a quick "pick me up" when I've had a rough day.

If the other person falls through, I just sent you an ICQ -- look me up, as you say, but definitely don't sweat the dollars. If you wanted to toss me some coin, that's just you being a stand-up guy. Me being a stand-up guy is not expecting it, after offering to set you on the right path for free.

"I've tried to say it in a respectful manner, but you're not leaving me much choice -- I consider you to be a child trapped in a high post count. Your reputation hits both extremes: some people love you, and a lot of people think you're a putz. To me (and this is my opinion, nothing more), you're a hack with little skill in design and almost no skills with people. If you want to get right down to it, I cringe to even read your spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It's like you don't even TRY."


Silly kid. Good luck.
You will get some skin some day.

yes Alien, we're all idiots.

Except for you of course. Found your board. It's pretty funny hehehe

http://www.hahahahahahahahahahahahah....com/threaded/

all threads are from you, a couple press releases, Mike Okitch slamming you for fun, and the lilbitch who stole all my computers lol

lemme guess: you don't WANT anyone to post there for ummmm... business reasons that I just wouldn't understand.

Ya know what cracks me up about Dig?

How he used up a great designer that I taught. The poor kid lived with em, and developed a crystal meth habit. Rather than get em off the shit or stop it from happening Dig kicked em to the curb. The industry practically killed em, and during the course of it, he was under paid and used the whole way.

Sad story...
People wanting to be hero's...

Ask em about Ryan.

Wanna go a few more notches Mr. Dig?
Or ya wanna keep playing?

you mean the kid who got a fat weekly paycheck, free rent and free food and STILL couldn't do a lick of work?

How the fuck is it my fault he got on crank? Blame your friend lilbitch for that I guess, if I had known that shit was around they ALL would have been gone.

what, you gonna bring even more of your crackhead friends out of the closet?

are YOU a tweaker? That would explain a lot....

I do not do any drugs dig.
Never have.

Wanna turn this into a drug discussion?

What prescriptions you on?
Isnt it true you suffer some emotional tempermental problems?

You think ya paid him well? LOL!
Plz.

I know the whole story dude.

Keep pushing me and it can get uglier.

i'm afraid i have to agree with alienq here ( and didgi420 at the same time)


It didnt sound to me like he meant he wanted people to do it for free so alienq jumped in too quick, but just when i think alienq has gone too far digi says "If I dont like it is not done" , well come on man thats an open contract for a never ending project.."

I think both of you just misundertood each others intentions ( and for good reason as one of you is a designer and one is buying a design )

ALIENQ stop busting digi420's balls , he just meant he didnt want someone to drop him a finished template and say "$500 take it or leave it", he wants "make it like gfy then mod it per my instructions "

DIGI420 stop busting alienq's balls , some people just like to be a smartass.

from a buyers perspective , you dont want to get a designer that gets halfway thru and flakes on you.

from a designers perspective , you dont want a client that makes you do alot of work and modification for him to say " sorry i didn't like it after all the mods i made you make"

I was on Prozac when I quit drinking, it's no secret. I haven't been on it for years. No booze either. You think you know all these deep dark secrets on everybody, but you don't know anything that hasn't been posted on a message board somewhere. Who the fuck would ever TELL you anything in the first place?

Here's the whole Ryan story: I paid him a weekly salary of 500 or 700.00/wk, gave him a free room, free food and never asked him to do anything except work 8 hrs. a day.

The unfortunate thing about people is that when you solve all their problems for them, they will create thier own NEW problems just to keep things interesting. The main thing my little communist experiment taught me is that you can't just 'save' people. People will rise or sink to their own level. But at least I tried.

For instance, you. You will always be a third rate designer with a big ego and little to no success. It doesn't really matter what anyone does for you for example Vivid.

lol it's not ugly at all for me, they're YOUR pals, not mine. They were just employees to me. And this is the first I ever heard of Ryan doing meth.

Fuckin slave driver... :1orglaugh :thumbsup

You actually came the closest to explaining what communism is all about that i have ever seen.

yep. It looks good on paper, it SHOULD work, but it just doesn't.

Well I kept in Contact with Ryan, he got himself clean, moved in with his parents and now enjoy's a normal life. He was a friend.

But I will spare his side of the story out of respect for him.

You didnt solve anyones problem. YOU were the problem.

actually it was kind of a tongue in cheek joke about how you werent really "sharing" :)

Like your example was a terrible example of communism , but it was closer to the truth..

What you did , was just a nice thing to do for a guy hard on his luck.. communism would be if you shared his success and shared his problems equally.

I guess I was if paying all the bills for everyone is a problem. There are plenty of people who would like to have a problem like me around lol

You're aware Ryan got almost NO work done right? You're aware that your friend lilbitch ended up stealing every computer in the house right? And how did YOU teach him anything? You were there maybe twice for parties and I never saw any classes taking place.

The mistake I made with that whole episode is allowing leeches and losers like you and your friends on the property. I learned my lesson.

Anyways Dig...

We can spar some more later.
Clearly you are just making shit up now at this point.
I only really cared about Ryan and regarding him you are clueless. He was really talented.